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A quick razz in the GIMP, and you're welcome! To answer your question, not always but in this case yes, there is a noticeable difference between the two pairs. Granted it's a variation on a theme, but it is there.
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Am I invisible? Did I stutter? It's a QUAD coil. I used pictures and everything! Yes, because the two pairs (so that's four then) can only be addressed as individual pairs (in that each pair of coils are joined together inside the pickup then present the each end of that pair as a wire) then it logically becomes a dual "coil" situation, it's more like two units, than two coils. I may be splitting hairs here, but technically correct is the best kind, and I'm a little cross that I've basically been talked over/around in my own effing thread
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Because you're worth it. Don't let that pesky imposter syndrome get in your way. And lose the "just". Even "just" doing pub gigs you are already in the rarefied air of musicians who actually make it out of the bedroom.
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The thing that puzzles me about this one is that I don't think the fingerboard is ebonol - it's not jet black, I can see grain in it (and in the light), pretty sure it's a wood of some sort, if not rosewood then some other dark wood. And the grain on the back of the neck looks a lot like wenge to me. I have no idea what the "AL" in "CURBOW 4 AL" on the back of the headstock means, but maybe it's a clue?
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I would be open to the possibility.
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Yes, these later models have a quad coil pickup, but they don't have individual wires for each coil, you can only operate them in pairs. The stock switch does this: And the middle setting (parallel) blows IMO, hence the impending mod.
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As I went down the road to the SE Bass Bash in November I stopped off en route to purchase a bass for the hell of it, a Cort Curbow. I had always been really intrigued about them, what with their use of man made materials and I always thought they looked pretty neat in some finishes. I spied one for sale, a sunburst one and figured "what the hell?" So, I like how it looks, and I like how it feels to play. Unfortunately, whilst sounding fine in headphones, it was utter garbage live with the band. Where are my mids? This thing is so scooped by default that they're barely noticeable. I had to crank the mids on the preamp AND crank them on the amp just to be audible, seriously, it just disappeared. Well, I picked it up for a tasty low price so I figured it was worth modding. I procured a Bartolini Classic Bass soapbar of the appropriate size and shape (MK4CBC) (thanks @Bass Direct) and someone on here sold me a Glockenklang 3 band preamp for a decent price (cheers @Fettsman) and got to work on the mods. Fitting the pickup was a piece of cake, the only thing of note I had to do was accomodate 2 screws on one side instead of one. Then I replaced the stupid "slap switch" (which scoops an already inherently scooped bass some more - WHY?) with a much more useful parallel/single/series switch and fed the pickup into that. However, fiting the preamp was another matter. This body is thin, and to compound the issue, the knobs are sunk into the top. There was no effing way that Glock was going to fit in there as supplied. I mean, I was modding it anyway - don't need a blend control on a single pickup bass after all. First problem - the body of the push pull volume control was just too tall, even if the shakeproof washer was eschewed. So out with the drill and the forstner bit to remove some material from the cavity to sink it down enough so the lid will go down... Just made it! Not a lot of material left, but this luthite stuff seems sturdy so I think it'll be OK. Then onto the main board, which was way too tall. So, to scheming. Thankfully, while the control cavity in the Curbow may be shallow, it is thankfully quite wide. Lots of dead space above where the bass pot would go... So to cut a long story short, I turned it through 90 degrees. The pot legs wouldn't bend enough while it was mounted, so I had to desolder the pot, bend little 90 degree nubs on the ends of the terminals then resolder it thus: >>>>> Did a test fit (the small board attached to the mid pot was able to be bent sufficiently with the pot in situ)... Yas, the lid closed. So I soldered up the rest of the wires... Cheeky little single connector block thing for the myriad ground wires I had to connect together... Great success! It now has mids when the preamp is flat! I took it to a subsequent band rehearsal and praise be, I was able to hear myself with the preamp set flat. MIssion accomplished! I hope you enjoyed this shaggy dog story and if you only take away one thing from this, is that it's usually true what they say - where there's a will, there's a way...
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Well, so that I don't fall foul of gear abstinence rules next year, I've ordered the on-off-on switch required to make it north (single)/series (both)/south (single), instead of north/parallel/south as it is wired stock. And in case you're wondering, this is what I'll be doing with it:
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Get them told! What next, supporting the "wrong" football team? It's a slippery slope...
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Does buying a bass for someone else count? But you must not come to acquire it later on in the year...
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I guess I should have made it clear that I was only talking about my own personal situation, where I'm not talented enough/too lazy to spin that many plates. I'm in two bands which haven't changed in years, and I don't do deps (because I'm a lazy, mediocre player at best and can't/won't learn a swathe of songs at the drop of a hat or be able to busk through them surfing along on my limited powers of improvisation and intuitive foresight). So it really doesn't matter what bass I play at my gigs, because I make the rules, neither of them are tribute acts (where I agree with you, you have to look the part as well as sound it) and the genre never changes. Also, I'm the kind of contrarian who would *love* to play a T-bird or an Ironbird or something pointy at a country gig, just to mix things up/generate tuts.
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Well, you've probably already seen it, but my preparations for next year are done - cleared out all bass and music related gear from my FB Marketplace and ebay watch/save lists, and got one final hit before going cold turkey... https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/520914-nbd-ibanez-atk200 Right, ready to sign up when the 2026 thread goes live! No basses living rent free in my head, feel good, feel confident that 2026 will be a year of great success (and improved prosperity)...
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Honestly, mate, I don't know and I've never really taken the time to find out. Actual 'Rays never appealed to me. If I've ever played one, it'll have been briefly at a bass bash or something. People just call this the "Stingray killer", probably because the Internet is built from beef. Always beef about something, trying to get a rise out of some group or other. I have no idea how true it is, the whole "Stingray killer" thing, and I don't really care. I can tell you this sounds like it'll be tasty live, plenty mid poke, even when the EQ is set flat. I might be modding the switch though - the two pairs of coils together in parallel is pretty scooped sounding and easily my least favourite sound of the three. Might mod the switch to be north pair/both in series/south pair in the future. It is on the chonky side of things - 4.7kg/10.34lubs according to the bathroom scales. Personally, I consider this to be a middleweight, but I know many have other ideas (and unfortunately for some, it's not a simple preference, but a physical requirement for their basses to be lightweight).
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And I'm of the unpopular opinion that they all do the same job. Now, which one will make me look fancy tonight?
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I'm going to try to do gear abstinence next year, so I thought I'd have one final swatch at FB marketplace. I was instantly reminded how dangerous it is when this bad boy appeared for a very keen price (complete with a Hiscox Liteflite hard case) and on the right side of England for my purposes. I decided to carpe that diem. 9 hour round trip, but it was definitely worth it. Basically unusued, the only issues were that it was a bit dusty in places, and there was some goop on the headstock where a clearly disintegrating stand had been cradling. Managed to get that cleaned off - it hadn't stained the finish, yay! Gave it a fret polish and oiled the fingerboard and gave it a good old setup. So, how is the "Stingray killer"? Good, as far as I can tell in headphones. My favourite finish for these basses would be Soda Blue, but this natural one is growing on me in its elegant simplicity, and the black pickguard suits it very well. But that's it! No more! I will be striving to make 2026 a fallow year in the gear acquisition stakes, so I guess I was getting one final hit in before the lockdown. FYI - no Stingrays were harmed in the making of this. Merry Christmas to me (and everyone else!)
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