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Does anyone actually know ALL of the REALGENUINE differences between..... - the Squier Affinity Jaguar short scale bass in the "Stop dreaming, start playing" starter pack (includes amp etc) and - the Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar short scale bass? The Fender/Squier website tells you nothing! Numerov

I'm a guitar player with (what I consider to be) short-ish fingers. I want to learn a little bass mainly so I can record bass parts on home demos to start with. I've tried a short scale bass (Squier VM Jaguar SS) and found it comfortable as it is short scale and has a narrow neck (1.5 inches/38mm ) which does not get much wider as you go up the neck). Radius is 9.5 inches I quite like its sound. It;s around £250 new. Can't justify spending too much more than this. I've tried a Revelation RPJ77 full scale which is between £150 and £180 and to me sounds bigger and better. I don't know how much this is due to the instrument being bigger and how much due to the pickups probably being better (Alan Entwistle PBXN and JBXN - neodymiums). The neck I think is 43mm and don't know the radius, I found this far more difficult to play. I think the scale possibly had more to do with it than the neck width - but not sure. The Revelation also has superior build quality in my opinion. It's very tempting to take the short scale option. The Jaguar SS does sound pretty decent - but would I be better off taking the tougher option and going with the full scale option and after some time I would master that neck?? How long (approximately) does it take to master the long scale neck if you focus on the correct exercises every day for 20 minutes or so? Advice required!! Thank you... Numerov

[quote name='Zombie1965' timestamp='1482109558' post='3197756'] I tried the zoom 1608, couldn't get on with it as a stand alone, so used to export the recordings to my DAW for mixing. My productivity Improves after i swapped to a mixer/ interface and started recording straight to DAW. I used a Alesis Multimix 16 for a good long time. Now I'm considering a Behringer x18 air as a 18 channel interface to record my live shows. Im guessing its a similar expereance on the R24. Were all different though [/quote] Could you explain why you found recording/tracking on the Zoom 1608 difficult? I'm only interested in the recording/tracking side of things on the standalone machine. Thanks

Has anyone used the Zoom R24 as a standalone recorder/tracker? (I am not interested in its use as computer interface for recording/tracking) If you have used the Zoom R24 as a standalone recorder/tracker - please tell me your good and not so good experiences with this piece of kit. Were you productive with it? Did you mix/edit on the R24 after your tracks were recorded on to it or did you transfer your tracks to a computer system and use a DAW for mixing/editing? Thanks Numerov

Has anyone used the Zoom R24 as a standalone recorder/tracker? (I am not interested in its use as computer interface for recording/tracking) If you have used the Zoom R24 as a standalone recorder/tracker - please tell me your good and not so good experiences with this piece of kit. Were you productive with it? Did you mix/edit on the R24 after your tracks were recorded on to it or did you transfer your tracks to a computer system and use a DAW for mixing/editing? Thanks Numerov

Does anyone have experience with both of these short scale basses?? If you have had experience with both of these basses - could you answer these questions please. That would be great. [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4]What are the sound differences between the 2 basses?[/size][/font][/color] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4]Which one has better balance between the P and J pickup?[/size][/font][/color] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4]Which one is easier to play?[/size][/font][/color] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4]Which one has better build quality?[/size][/font][/color] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4]Thank you[/size][/font][/color] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4]Numerov[/size][/font][/color]

Does anyone have experience with both of these short scale basses?? If you have had experience with both of these basses - could you answer these questions please. That would be great. [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4]What are the sound differences between the 2 basses?[/size][/font][/color] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4]Which one has better balance between the P and J pickup?[/size][/font][/color] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4]Which one is easier to play?[/size][/font][/color] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4]Which one has better build quality?[/size][/font][/color] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4]Thank you[/size][/font][/color] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4]Numerov[/size][/font][/color]

[color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4] Hello[/size][/font][/color] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4] I have the opportunity to buy a Squier Standard Precision Special (PJ bass with Jazz neck) second hand.[/size][/font][/color][color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4] It is a private sale and I will be going to the seller's home.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4] Please tell me what checks I would be able to make in that situation to make sure the instrument is ok.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4] Thank you[/size][/font][/color] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][size=4] Numerov[/size][/font][/color]

The [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Sansamp-type preamp/DI to give a more amped tone sounds the better option to me - but I'm new to all this.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Did some recording with a mate who played bass in the early 2000's and he used a Line 6 Bass Pod back then[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Got some good results. Think that was some kind of an amp modeller.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Are there any advantages to using a plain DI instead?[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Thank you.[/font][/color]

I won't be able to use an amp at home to record bass. How should I record bass instead to get the best possible sound?

With a 30 inch short scale bass I assume there will be a fair drop of tension in the strings. Am I correct? If I'm correct what do short scale bass players do to overcome this? Thanks.

I have read that in the [i]The Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar Bass® Special SS (Short Scale) the output of the P pickup is [/i]6.54K and the J bridge pickup is 4.65K. I do find the P bass sound is definitely in charge with both pickups at 100% Ideally should the outputs of these 2 pickups be more closely balanced to get more tonal variety? Also I would prefer pickups hotter than these. Anyone out there who can advise on the ideal balance between these 2 pickups and how hot you can go without sacrificing tone and character? Thanks!

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Tried a Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar Short Scale bass yesterday.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]This has a PJ pickup configuration.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]It has a neck the same size as a Jazz bass (the Precision PJ has the same size neck as a standard Precision) and was very comfortable to play.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Love that neck!![/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I liked the P and J sound it made and also the combined PJ sound.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I could quite easily see myself picking this up and learning on it.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I know there's a full scale version that also has an active pre-amp.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I found out that if the battery dies on this bass - it doesn't work at all even if you're using it purely in passive mode.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]3 questions come to my mind.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]1. How different would the short scale version sound compared to the long scale (assuming the long scale is in passive mode). Would it be very different or quite subtle?[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]2. I've read there can be issues with intonation on short scale basses - does anyone know if the short scale VM Jaguar suffers from them particularly?[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]3. On the long scale version would it be possible to add a physical switch on the body of the bass that would switch on the active pre-amp or switch it off completely to allow passive mode use even if there was no battery inside the instrument?[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Big thanks everyone! [/font][/color]

Tried a Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar Short Scale bass yesterday. This has a PJ pickup configuration. It has a neck the same size as a Jazz bass (the Precision PJ has the same size neck as a standard Precision) and was very comfortable to play. Love that neck!! I liked the P and J sound it made and also the combined PJ sound. I could quite easily see myself picking this up and learning on it. I know there's a full scale version that also has an active pre-amp. I found out that if the battery dies on this bass - it doesn't work at all even if you're using it purely in passive mode. 3 questions come to my mind. 1. How different would the short scale version sound compared to the long scale (assuming the long scale is in passive mode). Would it be very different or quite subtle? 2. I've read there can be issues with intonation on short scale basses - does anyone know if the short scale VM Jaguar suffers from them particularly? 3. On the long scale version would it be possible to add a physical switch on the body of the bass that would switch on the active pre-amp or switch it off completely to allow passive mode use even if there was no battery inside the instrument? Big thanks everyone!

Answering Grangur's last post: When I was playing on the Vintage modified PJ - When I had the P pickup on full and then at the same time turned the J pickup on full - the difference in tone wasn't very noticeable. The sales guy thought that was because the factory setup of the pickup heights wasn't done as well as it could be. When I had the J pickup on full and turned the the P pickup to zero the J pickup sounded weaker than I was expecting. So perhaps the sales guy was right or maybe the J pickup on this particular bass had a problem. But it did not give me confidence to buy the instrument. I also see your point about upgrading an Affinity - that if I tried to sell it on I wouldn't get the money back on the upgrades. But I'm looking to own a bass I can learn on and use for recording and maybe jam with friends. I just want it to sound right - so would not be looking to sell it. Answering Paul_C2's post. I did pick up and try an Affinity Jazz - and really liked playing it and liked the variety of tones it can make. But whenever I've heard comparisons of a J bass against a P Bass on Youtube where a guy is alternating between the 2 basses and playing along with a track that's been recorded - to my ears the P bass tends to sit in the mix better in more cases. Also because the J bass is brighter (because of the 2 single coil pickups?) there's much more percussive string noise. As a novice that string noise will be worse compared to experienced players. So my hopeful idea of the PJ bass was to have that P sound as a basis and then mix it with the bridge J to get a some of that J bass vibe. Here are 3 youtube videos comparing a P bass to a Jazz bass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XLfd0j5G_8 [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-pT2I0O7GY"]https://www.youtube....h?v=x-pT2I0O7GY[/url] [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isnyzHVoU-k"]https://www.youtube....h?v=isnyzHVoU-k[/url] On the first 2 videos I think the P bass wins no problem. On the third video I think it's closer - but the percussive string noise on the J Bass really bothers me. On the 2nd and 3rd videos I believe the tone is fully on for both basses - so maybe if the tone was rolled off a little on the J bass, then maybe the percussive string noise would reduce to make it more similar to the P-bass?? So I can see the appeal of the J bass - but I'm wondering as a beginner I'm better off getting a PJ bass so I've always got that reliable P bass sound to fall back on and can add some J bridge tones when I get a bit more adventurous. Does that make sense? If I get good at the bass - maybe look to get a J bass in the future?? Thanks for everyone's advice so far and definitely very happy to hear more. My quest will continue!