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We’ve never had a single issue in over 10 years. There will be no policy change. Thank you for playing ped

Perhaps the Christmas break has impaired your recollection of events during the course of this year. For indeed, you have form for jumping into sales threads to point out logo transgressions: Prior to the 'triggering' incident of a week or two ago, you commented in a sales thread in October: Ped replied to you saying: On June 18th you replied to an ad for a bitsa Jazz saying: Then on Jan 17th you expatiated in a more general sense on logos: THAT! There are so many fake/counterfeit "Fender"s around, selling with a "Fender" logo is dishonest, just waiting for some poor mug to buy one thinking they've got the real thing. (I also think Fender have muddied the waters a bit by branding Squiers as "Squier by Fender", so that people can advertise them as Fenders. Funnily enough, only three days before you had described taking delivery of a Rickenfaker with a fake Ric logo. Fair play for removing it as you did. But surely in buying it you were party to a transaction where intellectual copyright was infringed. So basically, you want to stop people selling basses with fake logos but it's OK for you to buy one? I put it to you that your unhappiness with fake logos in sales ads is nothing new. You have repeatedly broken forum rules by posting in sales threads where you should have PM'd. You have already had a discussion about fake logos with one of the forum's owners who has made his position clear. I suggest that far from being a spontaneous expression of concern you started this thread in an attempt to change forum policy. You want to stop people selling items with fake logos but you're happy to buy them. Shall I go on?

We seem to be arriving at a situation which creates additional work for the unpaid volunteer mods because of a single member with an agenda. Fantastic start to the year.

Just ordered a job lot of 1000 fake Fender decals ... money well spent.

I think that banning the selling of "fakes" would actually aggrevate the issue. Instead of being forthcoming and saying it's a fake they'll try to hide that it's a fake and hope it will slip under the radar

Well, it arrived a couple of hours ago. It is a thing of beauty...neck profile is great (I have no idea of the radius), very shallow/flat. It was set up pretty much how I like it straight out of the case, nice low action, a bit rattly but not unplayable. It sounds fantastic, but my fantastic would be another person's meh I suppose; I had about fifteen minutes at volume while the wife was out, but then work intervened. I've done a side-by-side with the JAXT4 for comparison. Just as an aside, I love the knobs on the new one, I'm going to hit up Lull for a set of three for the JAX. More later.

RE: The Limelight sale thread that's being referred to as an example. Yes, it has a Fender logo. I understand the point being made regarding that. But, AFAICS the listing advertised it as a Limelight. The problem was that the buyer did not understand what Limelight did. The buyer incorrectly believed that Limelight took factory produced Fenders and reliced / pimped them and then re-sold them. That is very clearly the buyer's own fault, surely? The seller has not attempted to deceive potential buyers, and Basschat has no responsibility to educate them about Limelight's business model either..

How am I supposed to look at my fretting hand and a music stand at the same time?

........... however, things change. Some time ago I bought a Chennell Arco Bass. It was proper lush, but in the BC way, it moved on and then something else came, and then that moved on. You know how it is. However, the build quality and aesthetics were something to behold and I thought of it often and fondly. I had also been thinking of commissioning a very small EUB with Uke Bass strings on it. But I had put all that behind me. And then I saw this I fought it for a bit, but as we all know, resistance is futile. Toby is making me a 5 string one with a curved fingerboard for a very small Double Bass vibe. It will have an Fdeck preamp mounted under the fingerboard. Nice and discreet, like. Toby does lovely things with lovely wood. I am excited.

I got sent a discount code by ebay today. Sez 20% off anything on ebay between 12pm and 6pm today. Code is PNY2018 There's probably a bit more to. It but I just got 20% off a pedal.

Yes! Yes, he did! Mind you, he's modded that Tele so much it prolly no longer qualifies as a Fender even though it's got a Fender logo on the headstock. Nee-Ner-Nee-Ner-Nee-Ner! Logo Police Assemble!

IIRC, the question was asked only after you'd already jumped into a for sale ad here to express your view about logos. Moreover, Karl alleges you recently piled into his FB ad. Look, it's OK if you want be a logo vigilante. Do what you like; no one can stop you. But with respect I don't think this thread was started from a neutral viewpoint and as a disinterested solicitation of opinion. I do think that it will end up making more work for the mods and for microscopic practical gain.

It was easy to ban the Ric content from the forum because most of the members can't stand the clanky neckdiving tat anyway

This. As a full-time dep, like someone said on here, I just ask what the dress code is. Turn up, get the set on the night and read. So having a micstand/ipad holder for me is essential.

Jaco only needed a Diesel.

Findus, obviously. I hope Dan isn't thinking of selling that bass, as someone might buy it thinking it's a crispy pancake.

Nort sure if I'm missing a profile setting or something but the vast majority of marketplace sellers do not appear to have their location visible - is it just me or the same for everyone? Would it be worth considering making it a prerequisite of using the marketplace that you state where you are? I mean, there's quite a few adds on there that state 'collection preferred' - from where !?

Stolen from elsewhere, made me laugh....could easily sub Basschat and some bass related topic I fear! How many Facebook group members does it take to change a spark plug? 1 to change the spark plug and to post that spark plug has been changed. 14 to share similar experiences of changing spark plugs and how the spark plug could have been changed differently. 7 to caution about the dangers of changing spark plugs. 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing spark plugs. 15 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "spark plug" is an electrical device threaded into the cylinder of an internal-combustion engine to ignite the fuel mixture by producing timed sparks between electrodes. 2 to post that this group is not about spark plugs and to please take this discussion to a spark plug group. 27 to defend the posting to this group saying that we all use spark plugs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this group. 16 to debate which method of changing spark plugs is superior, where to buy the best spark plugs, what brand of spark plugs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty. 2 to post URL's where one can see examples of different spark plugs. 12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the spark plug controversy. 4 to suggest that posters request the spark plugs FAQ. 16 to post "F". 44 to ask what is a "F"? 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?" 3 to say "do a Google search on spark plugs before posting questions about spark plugs". 14 to post photos of spark plugs they own. 1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again....

Yeah I have a very punchy/gainy sound, which all comes from my Para Driver, but I`ve experimented with the amp to see if I can get that in case the Para Driver fails etc. I can get there pretty much with Bass at about 9pm/10pm, either of the low-mid sliders dropped a bit - I usually drop the right hand side one - regular mids at noon, then on the upper-mid sliders boost a fair bit on the right hand side one, plus up the left hand side one a bit. Treble, well add a bit but I find on a P-bass it doesn`t seem to do much. To get my gain I just bump the drive to suit, and I keep the compression and sub-harmonics completely off. Adding in the pre-shape - which for some reason is out on the control-knob, not in, can work nicely as well depending on what cab is being used. ABM cabs are pretty scooped anyway so I don`t use it, but if I`m connected to a honky/middy cab then selecting that removes that honk nicely. I do this on both my amps, I`ve the ABM600 & 1000. It all works better on the 600, the eq seems more flexible on that one, and alterations seem to yield better results, but the 1000, which is based on the 500s eq gets there too.

This looks brilliant, love me a 50's Precision! Si

If anyone would shove his old chap through a pre-drilled hole in his guitar the better that a groupie might perform fellatio upon him it would probably be Mr Francis Rossi. Quite ingenious, when you think about it: "...and here, just behind the bridge, is the pink wang bar. Give it a go..."

Schecter make some lovely looking gear, these look great! The ones I’ve tinkered with in places like PMT have always felt really well finished with quality hardware, though I’ve never played one plugged in. Wouldn’t mind a bash on one of these.

Maybe it's a Glory hole? I'll google it and come back to you......

P i s s e d became whizzed

I got tired of looking at different amps... So I just ordered a 4 Stroke 500. Woohoo!

That's the spirit..! Now it you could only lead one or two others towards the exit, that would be very helpful; thanks in advance.

Thanks your honour

It won't matter when you send it back !!!!

Lovely. The different colours in the swirls are mesmerising.

Fender's official position is that if a person buys 100% of parts directly from Fender and assembles it themselves then it is still NOT a Fender as it has not been assembled and quality checked by a Fender employee or otherwise authorised person. It is NOT a "Fender guitar" it is a "guitar assembled from 100% genuine Fender parts" I love these discussions - full of "what about...?" and "I don't agree with it..." and "The law is an donkey..." type posts. So what? The law is the law and it applies to all. 1: Making your own instrument with a Fender logo is legal. 2: Selling an instrument with a logo on it that shouldn't be there is ILLEGAL 3: DISCLAIMERS / EXPLANATIONS / DECLARATIONS of "it's not real thus I'm not passing off..." DO NOT MATTER and do NOT make the an illegal item legal again. The law is VERY specific. You might be honest but the next person might not be. It's far easier to remove the half-hearted "limelight" sharpie note from the back of the headstock than take it off the front. Your personal honesty about an illegal item is irrelevant. It is the item itself that is illegal. 4: All items with a logo that shouldn't be there (guitars / toasters / pants / handbags etc) become counterfeit the instant there is an attempt to sell. At that point they items can be confiscated and destroyed and the person selling can be prosecuted by Trading Standards and can be sued by the owners of the intellectual property. 5: Individuals who've made a single counterfeit don't usually get in trouble as the trading standards budget is too small. 6: If you have a business based on selling counterfeits - like Limelight - then there is a risk of prison time. Wasn't long ago when a handbag selling lady - selling with disclaimers - got sent to prison for just that. 7: the fact that Fender haven't taken action against any counterfeiters does not mean they approve or even tolerate it - again it comes down to their priorities. 8: "There is no way I'd be able to have one otherwise..." is not a defence. You still haven't got one. You've got a fake. All you've done is helped the counterfeiter stay in business. Several other forums have banned counterfeits from being sold at all. I approve of that. I wish it was the case here too. It doesn't matter if someone doesn't agree with the law. It applies. If you want the law changed then lobby your MP. Until that time, selling a wrongly logo'd item is illegal and represents theft of intellectual property owned by others. Fender own their logos and get to decide how they are used. They might well want to allow a stinky poo factory in the derrière end of nowhere to use them - it's their choice. They might decide that only US instruments can use them for a future run. Again that is their choice. And once again, if you disagree, that does not matter 1 little bit. The law applies. Now, if you want a jurisprudence debate on the nature of counterfeit items then that is different. There's an awful lot of research out there on the impact to employment / income etc and even personal losses and injuries caused by counterfeit products like any item with heating elements not made properly. All products are treated the same. It's very easy to get into a "it's only a guitar" mindset and not think about the fake toaster burning a house down.

FWIW I have a MIM J5, and that one is exactly the same as mine. (apart from looking like a bar of Shield, obviously)

I will quote you on this and highlight the pertinent bits The issue is gain or loss , if their is an abscence of "a view to gain for himself or another, or with intent to cause loss to another" might this seem as definitive as you claim? To be honest this community is pretty hot on things like this , and as far as Fender are concerned they are probably quite happy to see there brand being promoted everywhere and as long as this site is clear as to what is being sold and that there is no-one with "a view to gain for himself or another, or with intent to cause loss to another" in the process I think it seems quite clear. I base this analysis on the above quote as it is your argument , not as a point of law , though it may still apply

Zhis is looking very good. Great paintjob. The scratch makes it even more authentic.

Tried a 5-cylinder once (an '86 Audi 90) but soon went back to 4's..........

Did no-one mention to check the gap before the spark plug was fitted .....and to check the colour of the deposits on the plug coming out , fuel /air mixtures also need discussing here

Don’t worry, if it’s Hermes no one will get it.

There's more than one bass player in South Yorkshire?

So here is my 71 Jazz bass refinished in candy Apple red I got from a fellow basschatter a couple of months ago. She had a reissue pickguard on when I got her which I replaced with a genuine 69 tort pickguardwhich I got from Axel in Germany, and the soldering was quite shoddy which I’ve redone, I’ve also shielded all the cavities so she is now as quiet as a mouse. String with Rotosound 77 Jazz flats this is my main gigging bass, she is the “bomb”.

I’ll watch this. 4 Miles to find out... if it stays under £100 that’s silly.

I have one. Its great. There's some great threads on Talkbass that might help. I'm not sure its a magic bullet, but I love mine.

You’ve been well trained!!

found the perfect carry bag for my bass fly rig a drumstick bag ! fly rig in one half and battery power supply in the other my bag is slightly different to the pic above, it has one wide pocket each side.

I've only been through a few but have settled on my Aria Pro II (SB), 1980's MIJ. The playability and tone are both superb. Come to think of it, my only problem with it is that it's sunburnt, but pah, who needs aesthetics. Overall, I don't think I could find a better bass for general use, even at a much higher price.