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Like owning a Ford Focus you mean? ubiquitous and therefore best?

Indeed, respect comes from being rich enough to afford a US made Fender, rather than musical skill?

Our youth are far too clued up on these matters and therefore their music is very straightlaced and safe. Music is so much better when it's written by a drug fuelled, chaotic anarchist with a chip on his or her shoulder.

Little update! Neck carve next apparently Si

One thing worse than an EC gig? A snooker tournament..............

Don't get me started. I saw Brian Ferry at the City Hall, Newcastle a week past Sunday. The couple two seats along from and one row in front of us, spent the whole gig taking photos, including flash, and videos of the gig. The guy directly in front of us continued blocking my view, every couple of minutes, by leaning into his partner to say something in her ear, then lighting up his phone to take pics of Brian and the band. Why not simply stay at home and put a DVD on? Its an event, live in the moment, suspend reality, enjoy the spectacle. Why spend all the time trying to capture a "Live" concert on a phone, so you can impress the mates in the pub next weekend? Give me strength.

The band I'm playing with at the moment have the answer. You need to get a bus to another post code to be able to hear yourself think let alone have a conversation.

Alan, from ACG has just updated his profile and the bass in question caused me to have stirring that I haven't experienced in a long time.

Yup, and Steven Tyler is on a "free" stage. BTW, all stages are free except The Amphitheatre. My band doesn't have a date yet. Last year we played before Frampton. Blue

The Cult: She Sells Sanctuary Sisters of Mercy: Alice Fields of the Nephilim: Moonchild

The new A Perfect Circle CD that came out at the weekend. Much quieter than previous stuff, and I like it

Maybe the XLR isn't really darker, maybe the 1/4" is brighter... While the pedal was in development dUg used it on tour through a multitude of amps and different PA systems and the filters were set to his specifications. He prefers going into the efx returns when using backline amps though that isn't always an option. In those cases he just plugs the pedal in front of the amp. My suggestion would be to try the pedal for yourself and not come to tonal conclusions from something you read on a forum. In the video interview with Pete Thorn they are using the XLR output and there is no shortage of high end.

To be fair, I don't think she mentioned playing the P. Just owning one. Take one with you and gain all the respect and kudos. Then get out your preferred bass...

I want this bad boy for my 50th. 18 string. Forget a P Bass. You turn up with this.

A fiat fight - one that breaks down fairly quickly. (although not as quickly as an Alfa fight - which lasts until shortly before squaring up time.)

I’m not; it’s the attitude that only a Fender P (a US one at that) is sufficient. You’ve also derailed a thread about dream purchases with a very narrow minded opinion.

To be fair I can only think of one thing worse than an Eric Clapton gig, an acoustic Eric Clapton before it!

A couple of bass-centric beauts utilising the Fairlight CMI.

A sweeping statement that means nothing. I love a good US Precision, but I've played and owned better Japanese made Fender P's for half the price. I love a good P sound but have an old Tokai P that delivers an identical tone (possibly even better). The Precision is an icon and I love it. But there are imho equally good and/or better and more versatile instruments out there..... many of which suit alternative styles of playing better.....

Ignorance is bliss apparently.

The American Fender ain't no run of the mill Ford Focus. It is an icon. An iconic sound matched by nothing else and never bettered.

I used one of these, someone on here linked me to it when I was in a similar situation: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00GMM74T0/ref=asc_df_B00GMM74T051942047/?tag=googshopuk-21&creative=22146&creativeASIN=B00GMM74T0&linkCode=df0&hvadid=214462264766&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17959555060353432343&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9046574&hvtargid=pla-421630808123 Cheap and cheerful, does the job admirably and weighs nothing. I no longer have the rig but you can see it in use here:

That wasn't a big hit but should've been as was this by Peel faves the Red Guitars

Killing Joke with that massive hit :

The thing I love about the 80's is the variety and changes the music scene went through, it started out with the last throws of punk and disco, then new wave, post punk, new romantics, electronic, goth, alternative, rap, hip hop, acid house, hair and glam metal and everything else in between, all in a decade, amazing. Here are some of my alternative 80's favs.

Everyone should own a Fender Precision. The proper American one - used to be called Standard, now called Professional. Get yourself a new one of those and understand that you own the benchmark against which all other basses are measured. Respect will be yours when you stand on a stage. An unquestionable seat at the top table of bass playing.

When I saw The Who at Wembley Arena not long before Entwistle died, Townshend went off on one about something gloomy. Being slightly refreshed I yelled out 'F**k off, Pete, you're such a miserable c**t'. In fairness to him he laughed and gave it a rest.

Good luck to them all. Any of us would be more than happy to have had so much exposure in the industry that people were discussing us on forums

For myself, I believe that talking through a band is a matter of context and degree. It's one thing if it's a willowy, ethereal lady folk singer singing a mawkish ballad about The Land of The Faerie Queene while tearfully accompanying herself on an un-amplified autoharp in a folk club. Silence is mandatory, lest one be assaulted by some ghastly old hippy in Jesus boots. Quite another if it's four hairy-4rsed blokes hammering out Sex On Fire at full beans in a boozer. Frankly, they just have to take their chances

I've always thought that if a punter can have a conversation without seriously raising their voice then we're not loud enough. Or as a guitar player I used to play with (who also owns a very successful PA hire / installation company) would occasionally announce to the audience "tonight ladies & gentleman, we will be using volume as a tool... and if necessary as a weapon"...!

You've seen Coldplay, then?

Just wanted to see whether it all ties in together, All the hardware is going to be chrome I’m still not 100% sure whether to paint the headstock Cream or would it look better Black or should I just leave it Maple???

"That's a lovely rack tom." "Agreed, but don't call me Tom."

The main question I have..... when will mine arrive!!!!!!

Do you think he'll hold on to it till then??

Looks great in the photos and as it plays well, it’s a job well done. The idea of routing out some cavities sounds like a plan (some nicely stained covers should look fine), but how much weight will you actually be able lose and will it affect the balance?

We've got a fantastic Scottish singer in our band. He's been working down in England for a decade. We still have no idea what he is saying half the time...

It's real value would be in the winter for somebody with a log burning fire....

Some interesting points. At one time I might have gone down the 'you should be more entertaining then' route but I think it has gone beyond that. I'm not talking aboput pub bands here, I can understand that atmosphere to some extent. In that scenario you, the band, are invading someone's local for the night. I'm really talking about the gigs people have actively paid money to go see in 'neutral' venues and the bands are putting on a perfectly good show. It just seems some folk now will buy a ticket as just part of a night out and if they have been shouting at each other in conversation in a bar before the music venue then they just bring that in with them. If the band is playing loud then they just shout louder at each other. Not between the songs, during them. I've paid to hear the band, not their life's trivia. Saw an excellent Fleetwood mac tribute last Sat. The woman being C McVie had to stand there on stage and do Songbird (which she did flawlessly) whilst about 60% of the audience could be heard nattering away from front to back of the venue. It got so bad at the recent Kate Buch tribute I saw that the band leader had to make an announcement about it before they played a particularly quiet number. The band are playing another venue later this year which I know is even worse for this behaviour and I may well give the gig a miss as a result.

The recording predates my time in the band, just, - the pic on the video post dates my first stint in the band..... The only 'OFFICIAL' video we ever made was this - - it was made on a French building site : - yes I am the fella with the 62JV...and yes we are miming badly...LOL

Don't get me wrong, the Fender P is an icon, it has a much loved tone and it's a great bass. But owning a great bass (whatever make it is) does not make you a great bass player or by, itself, get you any respect. It's definitely NOT 'all about the bass'. It is all about the bass player.

Talk Talk, of course :

Punters raising their voices, gosh. In the sixties fights were a regular feature in the halls and ballrooms. One venue was closed down because, as one guy wryly put it, there were too many dances during the fight.

The bass playing is amazing. Pino Palladino of course

All fair enough, but ultimately it's our job to entertain them. If I'm being ignored by the punters then it might be because they're all self-obsessed, selfish Mr and Mrs Silly Billy who should have been drowned at birth. Or it might be because I'm not doing enough to entertain them. Just saying ...

Not mine but this always make me laugh (from 1:10)