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I knew a guy like that. He used to (annoyingly) put his cases behind him on stage for easy access too. Whilst I'm all for a reasonably smartish get out of a gig, I really don't get what the rush is to save a few minutes afterwards, and it can give the wrong impression to bookers if the band are rushing around as soon as the last note has died away. Our band used to call them 'Doris Day' gigs ( quick pack away, quick pack away etc.... apologies to younger BC ers.)

Got an Update..and thanks to all your advice which I passed on to him, he stuck to his guns and has got the dealer to agree (very reluctantly) to swap back the guitars on the proviso that he pays £60, 30 quid for setting up the chapman before he advertised it on his FB page and £30 to put back the strat to its origional set up when they re-swap guitars, seems a bit harsh but I told him probably best to bite the bullet on that one and just get your axe back. Thanks for all your advice folks, love this forum, helped me out so many times

TU-3 I typed that slightly tongue in cheek to begin with, but actually, thinking about it, it's truly the only pedal I would be uncomfortable performing without!

Just having some goofy fun here.

He he! No, it’s all good! There’s nothing like a good geek out Unfortunately yes it has been tried and tested. The possible solutions just had me moving away from my desired ‘base tone’ so the MS came off my board. Yes I could replace my EMGs.. but I’ve been using them in my basses solidly for about 20 odd years because of their (imho) tonal benefits.. one being a huge output level. Oh and yeah, a small thing with being an EMG Artist now *chuffed!* ok, so why isn’t it an issue? Well, your Nords aren’t active pickups and are likely to have a lower output level in comparison. So you could say that I am in the minority simply because I have that high(er) output than the average bassist. I use that level to drive my... err.. drive pedals! Although you could now argue that it’s less of a requirement if I am plugged directly in to Helix, but EMGs are just superb sounding pickups when set up properly and I don’t wanna change them out.

For my playing... I'd have to say an envelope filter. If you ask me today, I'm saying the MXR BEF. Tomorrow might be the robotalk 2 Day after that my mini mu..... Revolving doors.

I really wish they'd do a version with the possibility of changing/extending the bands.. maybe making them semi-parametric. That would be a killer pedal.

There was nothing happening to your left.

Find a Cort B4FL. Unlined fingerboard, Bartolini pickups and preamp and great build quality. Also very light and plays beautifully, great mwah.

This is why compact cabs for bass guitar are much more difficult to design than most people think. Not only do you have to get your sound to the audience (assuming no large PA), but you also have to get the sound to the player's ears when he's standing one to two metres in front of the cab. And the sound the audience hears should ideally be the same as the sound the player hears, for obvious reasons. Most players, I think, recognise the limitations of their cabs and live with them - and angling always helps the player to hear better (but not necessarily the audience). You can more or less tell by looking at the driver configuration whether a cab can pull this trick off - and most don't come anywhere near. So you have to stack a second cab on top of your first so that you can at least hear yourself. When you do that you get cancellation between the cabs at certain frequencies, which affects what the audience hears - and so on. No wonder people like in-ears!

Yes I think he has learned a lesson, don't swap a £350 chapman for a dodgy bitsa in the first place!

Can't speak from experience re the mechanical issues, but I have had Basses where there was a distinct 2 tone effect (not the music genre): the top half of the neck has been exposed to sunlight and the bottom end has not and 'shading' has occurred. From memory it was a poly finish and was the rear of the neck.

I think you are making it sound harder than what is, Scalpy. It’s actually very structured and disciplined. The arranger, Peter Newberry transcribed it down to a tee. His scrolling score is below. GM midi sounds, but the notes and time signatures are all there.

Nancyraygun are you still in the room? Anyway, here's the thing all other things being equal the efficiency of loudspeakers is proportional to their surface area, doubling the cone area gives the equivalent of doubling the amplifier power. There is nothing magic about modern speakers just a gradual improvement in materials and engineering which enable you to squeeze a little more sound out of a modern drive unit. The state of play at the moment IMO is that you can just about squeeze enough sound out of a single 12" cone to match a drummer, so long as you aren't demanding anything unusual in terms of boosting the bass. The Barefaced designs along with loads of others takes advantage of this and the ultralight cab helps a lot with portability too. If you are still reading this thread then I'd recommend you think in terms of buying a couple of 8 ohm, 1x12 cabs. a single one will do for rehearsals and small gigs and adding a second cab will double the efficiency and increase the power from your amp giving you a real boost in sound. It means a single journey for smaller gigs and a return trip for big gigs, though I do sometimes manage two light'ish 1x12's, amp and bass as one lift if the route from the car is straightforward. I think you should be fussed by tone though, compared to speakers amps add very little tone of their own and changing your speakers will change your tone more than changing your amp. I'd go out and try as many speakers as possible, preferably with your own amp.

It does until someone asks you to play it. Then it dawns on you.

From some of the conversations in the OT recently, I'm waiting for Tw@t Chat.

Yeah, those early YJ albums had some lovely, groove playing on them. Harmonically, the tunes were interesting & very rich sounding. BB5, I know you are into Piano playing as well, check out this short Russell Ferrante video on stacking/poly chords. It gives you an idea how they got those themes and chord structures.

I'll just leave this here...

I don’t think any of those are ‘consensus’?! You’ll probably find that each of those points has a 50/50 split on here! Si

It's a CMD K1 Supercombo(Alain Caron signature). The combo on its own is 600 watts and the 102p supplies the other 400 watts. Both very punchy with the 12 inch driver being fat and rich and the 2x10 as tight as anything I've heard. Might stick some Velcro between them but it's stable this way...so far.

Tough to choose between these! I managed to pick out three favourites eventually. Well done to everyone though, top work all round.

Couldn't have put it better myself!

I`ve had a few 2x12 set-ups, a Markbass 112 combo with 112 ext speaker, and a couple of Barefaced cabs, Super 12T and Big Twin II. In all cases as well as being ok for rehearsals they were fine for gigs. I never used them on massive stages but for regular pub sized venues fine, so I can`t think that you won`t find a 212 set-up not sufficient for rehearsing. I`ve also heard bassists using two Hartke Hydrive 112s at gigs and again, no problems.

I'm only a bass guitarist myself, but I love and appreciate all things bass ...Apart from the left hand of a keyboard player.

Sorry @Happy Jack, you missed one. There's a big cockup stood to your left, wielding a Strat, a harmonica, and the ability to play almost nothing, and yet still be playing too much

Just PMd you.

As a point of order, I think that the Manta counts as a multi-fx unit; after all, phasers can exist as a stand-alone filter pedal, as can the other variants in there. Plus it has a drive/dirt section. So, I think you need to either allow multi-fx units (after all, if one were forced to choose only one, why wouldn’t one choose one which covers many bases?) or you need to disallow the Manta. This is a difficult one for me. The thing is, my pedals function individually as part of a system so having only one part makes little sense on its own. I can safely say that the Mastotron is here to stay, but on its own it is less interesting to me. For sheer versatility it’d be the Manta for me (even though there are better-sounding filters out there). Honestly though, few things on my board are truly safe.

Oooh, I think it would be a toss up between two Stones songs 'Torn and Frayed' or 'Can't You Hear Me Knocking'. Neither of them suitable for an audience who just want to hear 'Brown Sugar', but I always loved playing them with one of my old bands.

Another thing I would always suggest is moving the bass around during the course of a gig so that it's not sitting on the same part of the shoulder for the entire night.

Locked?

I might have to cheat a bit too. My favourite all time pedal (though it's not actually on my board, due to size, "unique" power supply requirements and bypass) is a vintage Mu-Tron III. Not sure if it's truly irreplaceable though as I have a couple of vintage ones, as well as the more modern Mu-Fx 3x version and the Micro Tron III (and yes I do like Mu-Tron's 😁). Of those pedals actually on my board, I'd have to say Chunk Systems Octavius Squeezer. Yes it's old, no longer made, and the UI is not very intuitive to say the least, but the range of sounds out of the Squeezer are so fat and versatile, and the 50 presets allow me to easily dial in pretty much most of what I need in a single pedal. If it packed up I'd have to try and track down another. I can vouch that those old big box Q-trons and Mini Q-trons that Dannybuoy is selling really are excellent filters too. 😀

I was just answering the question on which filters I decided to hang onto, not the general thread question! And @Breadbin, do tell everyone how amazing the big box Q-Tron is so that they can buy mine. Unless you need a spare?

Alive by Pearl Jam, one of my favourite songs to listen to ot play.

I found one eventually, and it arrived last week. Unbelievable value for money!

Yep, the Nik West one is one that jumped out at me when trying out various presets.

Isn't getting soaked par for the course in Manchester? I used to work there so I know what it can be like. I tried one of those plastic poncho things the other night. Looked like Quasimodo wearing a wigwam, but the bass and I both stayed dry. I did have to stretch the back before putting it on though, so that the head of the gig bag was covered.

Had a bit of a recent cull due to needing funds for an upcoming family holiday! So as my EBS head has a decent compressor built in,ive moved on MXR comp. Ive also moved on the 3 leaf Doom which ive replaced with the cheaper and still great Zvex Mastatron. Moved on the Wonderful Cog T16,and will just have to adjust my T65 for diffrent sounds. Sold my block phase 90 and replaced it with the funky looking EVH phase 90 (has script/block tones) My board was pretty crowded before and now just nice! Liking Dannybouys idea of two different boards though.

Surely you mean tw@ ch@

How's about a forum for various parts of a curry menu ...chicken chat chat I'll get my coat then ....

I run my Flightcase and PB300 rig with a VTDI on all the time. I currently play in an 80s covers band (leaning more towards the rocky numbers rather than the synth tinged ones) and a Tom Petty tribute. Because of the transparency of the Phil Jones stuff, whatever you put in front of it is accurately reproduced. Previous to this I was using a Mark Bass head through a Schroeder 2x12 cab and the PJ rig is similar, albeit superior sounding (smoother, more articulate).

The most frustrating thing About TC tone print pedals right there!!

In the rear control caverty of my bass.

That sounds like a lame excuse. If he was told it was an alder body and the indication is that it is basswood or agathis, that has been misrepresented. He should turn up and tell the vendor he wants to reverse the trade for both that reason and that the strat is not fit for purpose as it cannot be set up properly.

As discussed in the other Helix thread, this is just for posting links to patches for the Helix or the HX unit. The official Custom Tone page doesn't let us search by instrument, which is a bit annoying, and searching using the word "Bass" doesn't help as many descriptions use parameter names. So to get round it we need an easy search system. How it works: 1: You create a cool sounding patch on your Helix or HX. 2: You give the patch a name that starts "BASSCHAT____________________" (You don't have to keep that name on your Helix, it's just for the upload, then change it on your machine). 3: You upload it to the Line 6 Customtone library here: https://uk.line6.com/customtone/browse/helix/ 4: In the description box you also start it with BASSCHAT to give a better chance of it showing up in searches 5: When it's uploaded you post the link here. 6: We can then find it by a link on here, or directly on the L6 page. That's it! You can also link to other good patches made by others, so we've all got a chance to try them out. I suggest we only have links to the official L6 Custom Tone to avoid getting riddled with nasty infections. I'm at home so I can't upload any right now but I will over the weekend. get stuck in! @dood @CameronJ @Muppet @Musashimonkey @intime-nick @LewisK1975 @dannybuoy

I used my Rumble 500 combo for loads of gigs and I was always happy with the sound. I then went on a mad quest to look at Heads + cabs as I thought that would give me more flexibility and tried / purchased different combinations from supposed high end makes but basically struggled to get the tone that I wanted out of most of them. I’ve finally decided to go back to the Rumble but tried a Stage 800. I know there’s a couple of hundred quid difference but I’m really happy with it. Key differences I’ve found: The Stage 800 is much, much louder as a single cab (combo) than the V3 500 The included footswitch is a nice touch and very useful for presets, tuner, etc I kept the silver cloth speaker cover from my old V3 and it fits the Stage 800 perfectly so matches by 2x10 extn cab (apart from the silver corner protectors) The modelling is actually quite fun and whilst I’m not sure of how many of those I will use, it’s great to try out the options and load them onto the foot-switch. Plus the compression is quite nice and you can manipulate the effects and sims quite a bit (it’s like having a Zoom B3 built in) So far, I’m really impressed with it. All the things that I liked about the V3 plus a load of extras.