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My local Aldi has fisherman's scales in the central aisle....obviously not as accurate as your kitchen scales but negates the need for entering "the Forbidden Zone"...

What IS the best bass for metal? I thought I'd better get that one out of the way!

Got some more done on these today and I'm quite pleased with how they are looking so far. I'm also having a variety of thoughts regarding pickups - I'm half thinking of installing just a piezo in the bridge on the burl top. I'm also thinking about making a 30" neck for one of them, though that may follow later. I've done the routing for the neck and bridge on both of these and I've also started rounding the edges. Next task is to route the two neck blanks for truss rods.

Has there ever been a cooler drummer than this?

Just have to say, in response to the Barefaced naysayers on this thread, that my experience with the Barefaced tens runs contrary to the reservations that are expressed here. I am in New Zealand, yet the communication and customer service from Alex has been superb. I have two One 10s and a Four 10 which I combine with anything from a Mesa Subway 800+ to Orange AD200, Fender Super Bassman, Ampeg V4.....so I have a reasonable experience with these speakers. I also own Bergantino, Fender, Ampeg etc cabs for comparison. I do not want to get into a which is best scenario as that has been done to death, but IME and combined with decent amplification the Barefaced 10s far exceed others in volume and the type of tone that I enjoy. Yes, they are coloured but they are designed to be that way and it suits me. They go very loud without farting out and sit nicely in the mix. So light.... Anyway, it does boil down to opinion and we are all entitled to one, but I was surprised to read some of the comments here so looking to balance them from my own experience over 40 plus years of playing.

+1. I love a bit of Indian Yanny.

This is genius! I love it! You've got my vote man, perfection on every level! 🙌🙇‍♂️🙌🙇‍♂️🙌🙇‍♂️🙏 You are a god among mere mortals. 👏

OK I'm in a simple affair this time , nothing too complicated but I am very short on time this month, gigs, work and setting up for Lurksalittles 18th birthday bash next weekend ! Enjoy For some bizzarre reason I cant get the picture to upload this time around , I will try Again in the week

Just a weekend bump, have a great weekend 🙂

Good luck to both of you. Although i've been thru a few bands in past couple of years i've not gigged since early 2017 and current band is in rehearsals at moment. Only half way thru our set list of Glam Rock covers but that's because guys all have other commitments with other successful bands and are trying to slot this project in the gaps but hopefully will pick up once we start gigging. The talk within the band is that this band will take over as the main band for them all so that's nice.

We have a gig tonight to which a couple of people who saw the Stones last night are coming. Someone suggested we should drop our Stones numbers because it would be a bit of a stark comparison for those who’d seen them last night, and we wouldn’t want the band to be shown up for playing sub standard versions of the songs. I said sod that, the Stones have had a good enough run - why should we care if we show them up 😎

So spent quite a bit of time with these ZS10s. Quite a different sound to what I’m used to. Warm, with not a particularly wide soundstage (blocking the port makes this worse) with the recessed upped mids and treble clearly audible. So whilst I don’t particularly dig on them for casual listening of music, this trait could be quite favourable for onstage use as it will keep your ears fresher for longer. Having said that, I do like the warmth of the dynamic but I do find them quite a fatiguing listen generally - but I think that may be down to the mid range bloom. What I will say though, for the money - great. This or a 215? No competition. And if you think that this whole setup is comparable to the cost of an entry level cable from the big boys... not a bad thing to have in the spares bag either!

S'nothing, first gig since 2016 ; we're just about to start loading the truck.

Harsh that, was gonna say buy it a decent suit and get it some singing lessons...

I re-read that but let me just make sure... wink is the correct spelling isn't it? Otherwise I'd say your doctor is extraordinarily friendly, if a little dodgy with it.

At that price point you really need to get down to your local musical instrument retailer and try everything your friend can afford. The usual suspects will be a good starting point but there's always a chance that there will something in stock that you've never heard of before that turns out to be a bit of a hidden gem. Also you'll get a much better guitar at that price if you don't buy one with a built-in pickup/electronics.

That’s James Gadson. He was the guy back then, he certainly did a lot of sessions in the 70’s and 80’s. I think he was still gigging locally in the LA area up until a couple of years ago. A nice little read about his career here. http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/James_Gadson.html

In order to keep my strings fresher for longer I wash my hands before touching my bass, carry a microfibre cloth to wipe the bass and my hands and point a fan at my hands so that they don't sweat and stick to the strings which would inevitably cause skin particles to end up between the winds of the strings. I get around 9 or 10 wedding gigs out of a set before they get noticably dull. My bass is also the last thing to come out at a gig and the first thing to get put away at the end of the night

Just got in from the first of a three gig weekend, two more tomorrow, with not much of a break between them. You know that bit when there is some woman in the audience and all her friends are saying 'oh get her to sing' and you just know they are going to be awful, they are always awful. well, she came up when we were going to do all right now and grabbed the singers microphone (he is good with crowds, not me!), and started singing. OMFG was she good! Honestly I can't remember when I last heard as good a singer, a really strong voice, but not forced, perfect timing, great personality. Can we keep her?? Turned out she was a depping singer on a night out.

Just make sure you don't take it back to the wood - pretty unlikely unless you go mad with a belt sander though. The finish will easily T-Cut back to factory-standard gloss if you want to sell later.

Looks like a Schecter Stiletto Stealth to me:

I was only listening to ‘Tin Drum’ in the car today. Agreed, an exceptionally gifted and original musician.

Garfield Fleming from the Delfonics was walking past a record shop and heard a record he wrote and sang.. They didn't realise who he was. Just an excellent moment.

Thomann do (or did when I bought some a few years ago) a large range of very well priced bags and cases. Mostly sold as lighting cases IIRC.

This is my Bravewood jazz

Having now had a listen to @Akio Dāku and @kingofthestuntmen I have have to say I am most impressed ........ Its a good job I brought my A game to the challenge this month .................................................................

Good call Nick Beggs has simply gone from good to great these days. Steve Priest i'm a big fan of and is very under-rated as a good solid bass player. And he pulled some amazing faces and costumes with Sweet back in his hey days. Dave

My usual music is Classic Rock but I agree 100% with John Taylor (Duran Duran and Power Station) and Mark O'Toole (Frankie Goes To Hollywood) I also have a great deal of respect for Steve Priest from Sweet and Nick Beggs from Kajajgoogoo. Chris

There's a bass in this picture?

Quite a bit of the bulk is now removed. The lower bout will be slimmed (to maintain the radius as it is shorter) and there is now quite a bit of more subtle carving to be done to get the curve even and smooth. I will be shortly moving to cabinet scraper for the rest of the back carve. You can see how much wood has gone, though, already: And maybe you can see why I took the template of the chambers: The chambers are as deep as the ash is thick where it meets the neck, so too shallow a carve and I could break through the back. Knowing exactly where those chambers come to is therefore essential. I will be aiming at 3mm from breakthrough at their thinnest. I won't be carving the top until the pickup routs have been done, but this is a decent time to start checking the weight. This is most of the weight componentry, less the pickups and pots, still with a lot of wood to take off - especially the neck carve with a lot of heavy maple to remove. Yes - MrsAndyjr1515 was out: So just under 6 1/2lbs. The pickups, truss rod, and electrics will add around 3/4lb, but I should lose most of that with the further wood removal. Target for finished bass will be 6 1/2lbs or less. Ref neck dive control, there are a number of things in play: The bridge is well back The strap button is in the 'goldilocks' zone I'm fitting these really nice lightweight Schallers: Final update, Neil has chosen the pickups. A couple of Nordstrands, passive, master vol, master tone, blend. Great choice!

A band that notice how the bass sounds You need to stick with them Discreet.

Listening to this Bowie clip, I love the production and his performance.

Separate power supply for the Moog, or invest in a supply with isolated outputs!

there was a green 5 string one that got sold on here a few times, @warwickhunt was one of the last to sell it... I always wanted that bass. Though probanbly I would have remembered I don't get on with jazz basses. I would buy it if it came up again at a sensible price!

It always does. Any time a thread with a title such "as are you bothered if you ding your relic bass", it is inevitably hijacked, often in a good natured way, such as here, other times less so, by posters expressing their distaste for relic basses, and passing judgement "sad" etc - often less pleasant on the instruments and those that buy them. It is seemingly not possible to have a discussion about some aspect of relic basses without it, If a thread is on a subject I'm not interested in, I don't bother posting that I don't like it,, because that would seem to me a tedious and oppressive waste of time for those that are and would like to enjoy an exchange of views on it. Further, passing judgement on posters based on the finish they prefer on their bass, as has often happened in other threads on the subject, is sad. It might be described as "bassism" i don't have a relic bass, Im so grateful that by your standards I have a life

Is that Jonathon Ross??

Without doubt Mick Karn was once of the most original players out there, that Japan catalogue still sounds like nothing else on the market. Lovely fellow, sadly missed.

Absolutely no prob re. getting audio from the bashes. I usually record almost everything on video, so adding a dedicated, good quality audio recorder will be no problem at all. Looking forward to this!

Great idea! Looking forward to the first one. ☺ Once it's up and running, can I suggest that we link this idea to the various regional Bass Bashes, where there will be opportunities to get some fantastic content for the podcasts. For example, the SE Bash has had so many good workshops and guest speakers over the years, much of which would have made for interesting and relevant podcast material...

Can't get with the relic'd thing. An old bass that's led an interesting life has a story to tell, but buying a brand new bass that somebody has been paid to go at with acid, sandpaper and a chisel (a cost that gets passed on to you, the buyer) in an attempt to fake a life it's never actually led... Nope, don't get that one at all. Still, pays yer money and all that. Having said that, when I sold my (well-used) '84 Wal a couple of years ago, I actually got a derisory offer from some American yuppie who spent time chirping about how much it was going to cost him to get it 'restored to it's proper condition' and about how badly I'd let the side down by letting it get into 'this state'. I suggested he keep looking for a vintage lefty Wal that might better suit his needs and sold it to somebody else.

Yeah that's the idea there's a little local charity to me that is very diserving it's called 'help for James's' it's basically a charity set up to help people called James try and finish some of their outstanding projects because they are skint because their missus and kids spend all their hard owned money 😜

(Note to self: Next time I am offered a meat pie 'round at Andy's claim recent conversion to Veganism.)

Hmmmmmm interesting? I was thinking of a new build concept called a 'donateabass' where you can only build it from donated parts are you up for it?? 😋

I can certainly vouch for Bass Bags, they are just up the road from me in Duffield. Mostly new instruments, but my most recent bass teacher had bought his bass from them and they won't sell anything that is not a good bass. .. or for a range of older basses as well as new ones, try Tim Toft in Stone (http://www.timtoftviolins.com/category/instruments/double-bass) and Turners (http://www.turnerviolins.co.uk/Instruments/DoubleBasses.aspx) in Beeston (Derby side of Nottingham). Toft's don't list much stock at the moment, but call them and ask; when I last went they had quite a lot in their bass room; also their Bass repairer is top notch and all their basses are nicely set up and have a price label on them. Turners maybe a little far East for you and I've found them a little shy of actually stating genuine prices, so assume everything is negotiable; but they usually have lots of stock right across the price range. For a big purchase like a new Double Bass, be prepared to travel and see as many as poss. Thwaites in Watford have a room FULL of basses (some of them the price of a decent sized house - but many affordable too). I have only just found out about this restorer and dealer in Leicester, but worth watching his stock or giving him a ring, Tim Bachelor (http://www.batchelar.com/double basses.html). Good luck with the bass hunt.

My support regarding Wal orders is usually along the lines of... Do it... go on do it... do it, do it, do it... have you done it yet? I was going through numerous basses a month until my first one landed, chopping and changing, searching for something that gave me the sound I had in my head. I'm down to two basses now and have been for a while, fretted and fretless Wals

I’ve recently started the build of a ridiculous idea. A 20” scale bass. The body and neck are from an old mahog bookshelf I’ve already got 3 bodies from. The idea is to use the low 4 string of a 5 string and tune them up to whatever the correct tension is. It will be, at most, a step up from standard. It won’t have a truss rod, just a graphite rod. The neck is tiny and half of it is in a neck pocket anyway. Ive just planed down the neck and shaped the body. The neck looks very thick in the photos but that was not it’s proper thickness. I’m using a piezo bridge only.

It's going to be a little while before I get to build this but I couldn't help myself looking at ideas of how it could look. So I cut an outline and put it over various bits of wood I have: Ash Wenge Walnut Maple Spalted beech Map I actually quite like the map one!!

[quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1485080030' post='3220882'] You can buy the labels quite cheaply online :-) Or about £3 a device.. (PS there is no legal reason to have kit PAT tested, just a bit of a scam IMHO..). See the HSE website for confirmation.. [/quote] also you could bet a months wages that if you were unfortunate enough to have an incident involving a third party there would probably be a firm of ambulance chasing lawyers chasing you down for your PAT and PLI certificates