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I now have 5 Precisions and a NR Thunderbird. I only had one bass before I joined Basschat. I think they have hacked me like a Nigerian Prince.

I PM'd @discreet about this a few weeks back. Seems he's knee deep in a new, all-consuming musical project. Well, that's what he said. It's probably because he just hates us all with a savage passion.

Update update: I've fitted the EMG guts and it's huuuuge sounds absolutely awesome. Yeah, but I'd have to tipp-ex out the 'A' from the trussrod cover

it is. I now wish it was actually mine! Damn it! I've got battered van GAS now!!

I always get a good chuckle out of Skank and Teebs. Wonder where Discreet is these days? Seems to have scarpered. 🤔

Yep, simply accept that membership of Basschat comes with an added bonus gift of GAS for Life.

That's a good one and marks a pivot away from warrior fantasy to just plain weird while still keeping one foot in the multiverse, e.g. Una Persson cropping up in alternate form as Countess Una of Scaith. Anyway, people, it's not ackshually a derail John Paul Jones performed alongside Ian Paice at the Sunflower Jam in 2012. Paice played on the Nektar album Spoonful of Time with Nik Turner who as a member of Hawkwind recorded Warrior On The Edge of Time, a 1974 album specifically about The Eternal Champion with Moorcock providing the overall concept and vocals on two tracks. Ta-dah! Four degrees of John Paul Jones.

Rare 2018 “wide necked” 6 string guitar from legendary eBay luthier. Utter bargain: £2500

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My recently acquired - and as yet untested in a live, full band setting, but I'm fairly confident it will sound epic!! - Quilter BB800 and BF Super Twin... First live outing next Saturday at Kelso Scooter Rally...👍

Didn't buy that one! I have had a few unbelievable purchases over the years though, buy far and away the best was my Conklin USA custom 8 string through neck. Paid £300 for that. There is a lengthy story behind it, but essentially all that needed doing was a change of battery and battery connector and a THOROUGH clean, and I mean everything stripped off clean. But still, not bad for a $12,000 bass That ain't going anywhere EVER though! My advice, hunt around, keep your eyes open at every turn, and you'll find some cracking deals eventually!

Thanks everyone! I whnet for the Ampeg Classic Bass Pre Am Pedal!! Cheers!

I meant in a way for light comic relief.

Collect gigs, not stuff.

Buy, buy, buy ... Sell, sell, sell ... Buy, buy, buy .... Sell, sell, sell ...

The custom shop do some nice stuff too. Here's my CS '68 with authentic relic'ing.

I don't know how many players have bought cheapo instruments and been put off..... But when I started my first foray into bass (many years back, in the early 80's) I had an utterly terrible Kay Rick copy. It was absolutely, utterly, utterly dreadful. The neck was warped, it buzzed like hell - even though the action was so high I could almost get my little finger underneath the strings, and the electrics / pickups sounded dreadful. A guitarist pal (who had been playing a while) tried to help me set it up, but to not much avail. It would have been great firewood, but for the toxic paint it was covered with Another bass playing pal had quite well off parents, and they bought him a nice Fender Jazz. I couldn't get over how nice that was to play - it was like a different world! However, he's the one who gave up, while I persisted EDIT: Earlier in the thread, someone posted as to how it's now nearly impossible to buy a bad bass. Maybe that's not quite 100% true (I'm sure there are still turkeys out there) But these days "budget" basses and guitars are almost immeasurably better than they used to be. I also owned an awful Jedson 6 string guitar too - anyone else remember them?

Just turn up the input gain on your amp then. Changing the pickups or pre-amp on your bass will change the sound.

After about a year of the first inception its finally here! I'm so happy with the bass and would like to thank the Overwater team for the great service, workmanship & help. Some specs for you all - A standard Overwater 5 string P body & 35" scale length. I initially wanted a 36" but soon realised that 35" scale length is ample for a tight low B. Of course the P style body is classic & I love a classic (I wanted a P bass anyway) 5 strings because of necessity as a player & loving a low Eb for some Stevie Wonder grooves! Surf Green colour & the matching headstock. A classic look & some cool retro vibes. It was either going to be green or Daphne Blue, but I'm so happy with the colour and the brightness of the bass and the lovely gloss finish which is off-set with a classic off white scratch plate. Also they kindly added a lovely PC Custom signature to the back of the headstock. We've got a swamp ash body & one piece maple neck. This just stems from the similarity to my Am Deluxe Jazz & have always liked the response from that combination. Its hefty but not overly so. Indian rosewood fretboard. I haven't played a rosewood in ages but wanted that old school look & feel. This is where the no front markers came from. I wanted a clean crisp look similar to some other basses I've lusted over. It takes some getting used to (I didn't realise how often I looked at the actual fingerboard!) I have 2mm mother of pearl dots on the side though Thank goodness! We've got a reverse P & a MM style. The chunkiness of the P in passive is pure old school and filthy. Then we have the phattness off the MM style in the bridge. Another thing to add is the Neutrix locking jack socket which gives me great piece of mind. While experimenting with the John East/Overwater 3 band boost & cut EQ with mid range sweep, passive tone & pickup blend I fell in love. I can solo the MM, boost the bass & treble a little bit & Bam! it sounds exactly like a MM bass. pan all the way to the reverse P and we have that funky chunky stank face inducing thick loavable tone. Hardware wise we have a huge chunky Overwater bridge with 18mm string spacing. Which gives me plenty of room between each string for the old slap pop and its solid, designed so well especially for set ups and string changes. Next we have the classic Hipshot Ultralite 1/2 post tuners which weigh nothing and move very smoothly. Or pick both in active and have a warm crisp defined tone perfect for more modern grooves & soaring crisp top end (EQ is flat at this point) Comprehensive isn't the word for this circuit & pickup combo, it doesn't do it justice. I took it for a spin at a recent The Special Brew rehearsal and was met with compliments on looks, tone, & general grooviness (sadly not personally!) It cut through when needed for my solos & provided some great round bottom too. Following this I've also had my first show with it too! A depends gig with Ska Band The Navarones. I kept in passive with the tone rolled off a little for 80% off the show then bumped it into active with a slight bass boost for more "Dubby" styled songs. The bass is very comfortable, although it is a little heavy! and easy to play. Its very even between pickups & over all the strings too which makes life easier simply. It balances well and although the neck is wide it fits my hand perfectly with a lovely rounded edge to the fingerboard which screams quality. Iv'e also added a few videos using different tone/pickup combos here https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa9pBo2qQ_6843_HoIfhT5B1MQ-S_Llfi

Did another run out with it last night. Sounds so full...handy, as the guitarist got stuck on a slow train back from London and missed rehearsal.

I’m from a small town called Hope, Indiana. I somehow just surfed in to basschat, and thought I’d give it a go. A little bit about me, if I must brag(?) heheh I’ve been playing bass since my high school band in 1964. Those were good days. I used a 1963 Fender Jazz Bass with a blond Bass-man piggyback amp. Didn’t keep them, although I still have the replacement Jazz Bass I bought in 1971 Right now, I’m in the process of dusting off some old effects pedals to see if there is anything interesting. Also, I’m reading up on the effects thread in BC forum; here of course. I’m piddling with my Zoom B3 from yesteryear; so it’s out of the drawer. I thought, though, that I’d like to roundup some of my single pedals together plus some new ones, of course, and replace my old wooden board with a new, commercial board. See ya in the effects shed. Also see ya in the bass shed, music shed, and rest shed. Rest is important.

Just an appreciation post for John Paul Jones bass sound on Heartbreaker. Drove to work to it this morning and forgot just how huge it sounded. The big wobbly gritty in your face bass sound is so aggressive I love it. Would love to use that sound all the time but probably wouldn't get many gigs.

When I first listened to the second Led Zep album, I accidentally played side 2 before I played side 1. The first song I heard was Heartbreaker. Around that time (early 70's) I'd been reading a Michael Moorcock book entitled The Land Leviathan a sci-fi fantasy about an alternate history where warlords with gigantic armoured vehicles dominated the Earth. Jones' sound immediately made me think of a huge, city-sized tank and the impression has always stayed with me.

At the risk of butting in, I rather think you're wasting your time Stub. There are a number of topics that can't be discussed (what I would call) sensibly on Basschat and tab is one of them. Any discussion of tab will ALWAYS turn into being told you should learn stave, even if you don't want to, need to or perhaps just find it difficult. It would be nice to be able to talk about tab objectively, but...well.....Basschat. YMMV of course

The best ‘legacy’ GK could do is restarting manufacture of the original 800RB exactly as it was.

Contact Larry Hartke direct on Facebook. He used to publish his mobile number and would take calls from anyone and everyone. If you can find it online anywhere he even said the other day he’d still take the calls!

I think that GAS can be defeated by actually spending time playing what you have.

I don’t know why but just this last week of two I’ve been wondering how a Fender P would feel to play, never liked the look of them, always preferred a jazz or even an Aerodyne. I’m a five minute walk from PMT, it’s lunch break...

They Dont? 😥 http://www.transitvanclub.co.uk/

Brilliant, thanks for sharing that. I never paid any attention to the press back then so this is all new info to me! This brought back some memories "What was the deal with you being the only clothed FNM member in the infamous "FNM underwear poster"? I had a t-shirt with that picture on the front which had "you fat b@stards" on the back. Man, I thought I was the guy walking around my little village with a swear on my shirt 😂😂😂

The way he and bonham kick back in after the breakdown, then raise the roof shortly after is phenomenal rhythm section work.

Someone just mailed me asking about using coloured oil and if to use another oil afterwards to finish it. Here's my answer. To apply the oil, put some on a pad of cloth/kitchen towel and spread it over the surface and work it to the wood to make sure it gets into crevices in the grain. As you finish, wipe the oil off a bit, so it's not drowning in the stuff. Application of coloured oil is the same. The coloured oil will give you a finish that has the colour; which you can keep applying until you get the dept/intensity you're looking for. When this is done, you don't need to apply other oil. The coloured oil is enough. Leave the oil to dry and buff the surface up with a soft cloth. If you want a bit more of a sheen than the oil gives, use beeswax and buff it to a sheen with a soft cloth. Old t-shirts are good for this. Beeswax can come with a colour. I try to use a fairly neutral one. I'm using one from National Trust at the moment. I also have one on the go from Colron that's got a dark colour to it, but the dark does't seem to do a lot, but the wood I've used it on so far has been a dark grain laburnum. For a bass I'd use this one, getting the clear version. https://www.wood-finishes-direct.com/product/liberon-beeswax-paste-with-pure-turpentine?gclid=CjwKCAjw8e7mBRBsEiwAPVxxiH91jYOcc9fLPfhsNk7sWTjY4SA8NkUeJPX9UPAaWAiI6WPsWxlYPhoCa0AQAvD_BwE Don't EVER, ever, ever, use any spray polish on ANYTHING ever. Spray like Mr Sheen or Pledge are "silicon polishes". The silicon stays damp and makes the surface sticky to attract dirt from fingers. It also makes the wood almost impossible to re-finish at any future date.

It's a pain which never ends.

Just curious, because I like fenders 😀

I gave a longwinded reply to this on another thread yesterday. I'm going to link to here cos it took me ages to type out 😅

No, but I had a truly dreadful Rosetti bass to start with - the string separation was about 10 mm and the action was nasty. However, as this was the 70's my next bass was a USA Precision. This had its' issues (bridge in the wrong place etc) but the sound was chalk and cheese when compared to the starter bass. I still have this bass! Davo

I always pack a spare pair of clean knickers before heading out. (Plus all kinds of other shite boys probably don’t want to know about.)

@YouMa all oil of all types will darken the wood to some degree. Generally lacquer will make it less dark. When I was in the wood finishing business, the usual way to we checked what difference lacquer would make is to rub some saliva over the surface of the wood. This gives you the effect without actually doing it. For an oil that makes almost no difference; I once got a pathetically small bottle of genuine Fender Lemon Oil. This made very little difference to the look of the wood. It made it hard to see where i had applied it and where I hadn't. It was also stupidly expensive for the volume I got, but this might be the answer. I don't know how effective is is at protecting the wood against dirt from mucky fingers penetrating the wood. I didn't trust it and used boiled linseed oil instead, but I suspect it doesn't do a lot. You might like to give it a go. Another finish, probably better is wood wax. Osmo do a clear one. https://www.osmouk.com/sitechaptern.cfm?bookid=Products&chapter=82&page=373 @lou24d53, making wood darker can be done in a few ways. I don't really like wood stains and dyes. They are made in different ways. Stain is a liquid with coloured particles that sit on top of the wood. Dye soaks in to the wood grain. What I don't like in stain, is that when looking at the finished wood, the effect isn't very convincing to anyone who knows wood. When Warwick are colouring their basses they use a water based stain and then lacquer over the top. Another way to get a dark finish would be coloured oil, as @YouMa says. You can use the same link as above.

You guys know HD is headquatered here in Milwaukee. They provide a lot of work for bands with all their events. Very professional the way they treat bands. We have 2 Harley Festival gigs coming up that we played last year. They provide a top notch stage with wireless sound and lights, Green room( actually a VIP tent) with beverages and sandwiches. I night start a new thread addressing how bands should behave and how owners and organizers should treat bands. Blue

You can get coloured oil mate

I cannot believe I managed to answer that. I am such a wood whisperer.

I'll have 2 flat, a round and a Two points, ah, two flats, and a packet of gravel 😬

I've run a cutter down both bodies to get a nice edge to join the two halves. Managed to miss all the holes in the mahogany body - hooray!! So this is where I'm at so far:

It's not a good fight - it's just a fight. So many great players in great bands on great tracks, all playing Ps and Jazzes (actual Fender ones). So many premium makers producing high-end clones. The Precision in particular defined what an electric bass would be - Gibson, Gretch, Hofner, Rickenbacker, Framus and the rest didn't do that. I'm certain the P and Jazz are both as relevant and useful today as they ever were. Delete the existence of the P and Jazz, and what would Sadowsky, Lakland, Sandberg and all the rest be making? So, It's not a good fight - it's just a fight. Like pushing water uphill. If avoiding Fenders was easy for you it wouldn't be a fight would it?

The potential for errors in parsing that sentence is not negligible. Possibly add a comma after 'parents'?

The Mary Whitehouse Experience.

Because if it feels right, then changing the electronics is easy. If it doesn't feel right you are never going to make it feel right.

Speaking for myself, I find it harder to find a bass that feels just right than to make a bass sound just right. If I find a bass that feels great but the sound is not quite there, I can do a few *easy* things to help it get where I want it to be. I don't always succeed but most times I get where I want or even surpass expectations. Some people really hate messing about with the electronics and even have other people set up their instruments for them. Other people even enjoy doing that, electronics are relatively cheap if you know how to use a solder iron, and setting up an instrument is trivial if you have experience. So why not?

Apologies if it's already been posted but this just came on as I was watching Better Call Saul.