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I wanted to just say publicly how much I enjoy this forum. I may not be a very active member at the moment, but I thoroughly enjoy the content on here, and especially the people. Indeed, a huge thank you to forum member Raymundo who, about 18 months ago now, saw my post on here that, due to financial difficulties, I had to sell my beloved Brook acoustic bass. Ray immediately got in touch and offered to lend me an acoustic bass to tide me over. I have just given the bass back to Ray (I still hope to be able to buy back my Brook shortly) but this lovely act of kindness will never be forgotten. I truly think bass players are the loveliest of musicians- humble, extremely musical, empathetic, and without any delusions of grandeur! An example of this is the thread on Depression. Such a thread is unheard of on other forums. Indeed, on a guitar forum I belong to, discussions of people’s mental health is positively frowned upon! The way people help and support each other in that thread is really quite beautiful. Anyway, just wanted to get that all off my chest. Hopefully, at some stage in the next few months I will have my bass back and continue with my project of exploring solo folk bass!! Robbie

I was teaching one of my A level music students a couple of years ago, talking specifically about his composition and where he could go with the bass line,. I recommended he listen to Danny Thompson, to which he replied that his mum , who was in a band, had worked with Danny Thompson. Anyway, a couple of weeks later he says “my mum asked me to ask you if you could give her guitar lessons”, this student knowing that I am a bit of a fan of alternate tunings. I asked him more about his mum, and which band she played in. “Oh you won’t have heard of them” he said. “She is the lead singer in Lamb”. Talk about OMFG! “But Lamb are my absolute favourite band, they are what inspired me to get into music technology”., fast forward a couple of months later, after she got back from a tour, and I’m talking to her about how she recorded the orchestra parts on Gorecski, and working out a Dadgad acoustic part with her for an unplugged version of her most famous song, Gabriel!! Robbie

is this some sort of weird Fleetwood Mac tribute?

Likewise its just a great place to hang out and have a blether, get things of your chest and offer any help, advice you can. I've gained loads of information from the guys on here. I enjoy the posts where people offer help with gear like your own situation. It gives you a sense of pride and a happy feeling to know that people will lend gear to complete strangers who are having a bit of a hard time. You hope that others would do the same for you if you ever needed it. The words of support you get can bring a tear to your eye at times. So many touching stories on the forum and hopefully the comments help that person get thru a difficult time. We've had people going thru difficult medical issues and letting us know what going on in their life and the comments seem to help them get thru it. Its just a great place to be. Dave

Just two and a=half years ago I took posession of my custom built "Mouradian" by AndyJr1515. I am posting after all this time to say I am still besotted with this bass. It is now my go to bass and in my mind the best I have ever played. (biased? maybe!) It has always been rock steady. I have never needed to adjust the neck or string height. The cream finish has aged a little and is slightly darker now.

With regard to the mental health support that bassists give to each other, this is perhaps not too surprising as being bassists we've had a lot of experience of dealing with mental health issues from our respective band mates😅

So I received some cash for my Birthday and decided I would buy myself an nice ash p bass body but with jazz routings. I looked thenm up and for a one piece it was going to cost £230.00. A lot of money but if thats what they are. So I contacted the firm to see if i could see a picture of the blank they would use ....they wouldnt do that until I had paid. So I declined as I have seen some lovely ash and some awful looking ash. A little dissapointed I decided to see if I could build one myself for similar money. So I purchased off of sphock a Bandsaw, pillar drill, router. £95.00 total Tempate kit £55.00 Bit of ash 38.00 total Router bit 22.00 I have no woodworking skill at all...what i do have in abundance is ...stupidity that this is going to be any good....who knows! If the body turns out ok I am goi g to have a go at a neck.

Splendid. I'm printing this out and leaving a copy lying around the house, just to add perspective to any discussions about new basses entering the fold... 🙂

I shall have to suggest this as our next album title. We play soft-rock ballad covers.

Slowly, slowly...…. Finally got a little bit of time to get on with a few jobs on this build. I've been waiting for some fret wire for about 3 weeks and finally it turned up so off we go! First up I cut the fret wire to length and nipped the tangs at the end so I can fill in the ends of the fret slots with ebony powder and glue. This should leave the slots looking nearly invisible, but if not, at least very tidy. I have a small block of wood I keep the cut frets in so I know which one goes in which location. Next task was to use a radiused sanding block to radius the fretboard. Checked my measurements and used a 16" radius block starting off with 180 grit, then 320, 500 and finished with 800. I'm pleased with how this piece of ebony looks and how it has finished so far. I have an arbor press fitted with a fret caul and it makes fretting a neck reasonably straight forward. I've used masking tape on the board to protect the ebony whilst I do this. First few frets fitted: then some more... all fitted.. I've trimmed the fret end but they still need filing level to the board before I can fill the ends. Getting there, finally!!

If I'm house bassist at a jam, I'm happy for people to play through my rig (obviously), but if they don't have an instrument, they use my knockabout eBay cheapie. Playing one of my decent basses is a no-no unless it's a friend.

Superb reading skills. You can’t bluff in that environment when the client changes arrangements on the fly.

I've said it before but one of my favourite things is gigging on a multi-band bill and discovering the bassist from the other band is a member on here.

It is very kind of you to thank me in public Robbie, much appreciated. I actually had a brilliant night out in Bath ( it was convenient for Robbie to get to then) when I gave you the bass and loved that old guitar shop you showed me. There was an amazing coincidence when arranging to get my bass back...….. I live in Ilkeston in Derbyshire and with Robbie being near Bournemouth ,finding a mutually convenient meeting place was a problem ( short of me having a night out in Bournemouth but I've been there before 😉 ). I went to Stroud on Friday to see The Achievers (AGAIN @Jack_Stroud_Bass ) and arranged to meet Robbie at the station to get my bass....on Thursday I was chatting to my neighbour and he mentioned that he was going to Bournemouth On Saturday for a holiday...he met Robbie and got my bass saving him a 7 hour round trip...how cool is that? !

Good man, @Raymondo 😎

The know this Meme is doing the rounds again, causing Nick a bit of a headache, bless him. I think @cetera needs to replicate it to take some of the heat.

*starts new thread: Please remind me: Tv program featuring a bass between a rectangle and a Thunderbird* 👍

Am I the only one who read this thread title and thought it was going to be about Boris Johnson’s selection of close co-workers? No joke, I really did think that.

Yup. Despite dire warnings that mixing cabs will bring about the end of civilisation, I'll take the 1x15 + 2x10 combination any time. I don't really care about the science behind noise cancelling frequencies and sound waves traveling at different rates and all the other nonsense people constantly spout. It just sounds good!

Remember to count your fingers before cutting out the body and afterwards as well. If there's a discrepancy, call 999 right away. 😃

I've been house bassist a few times over the years, those that rock up without a bass better be able to play upright or five string as I've not got anything else to lend them.

I'm 65, off topic. I have friends my age that will say, " She approached you to talk and take a selfie and you didn't get her phone number?" No, I didn't. I'm not 18 and I'm there to work not pick up women. I just want to go home. Blue

Are you sure it's not a Fenton Weill?

Stands for that lot would cost more than my entire collection...

Anglebird seems a good name for it

First of all: an immense Thank you to everyone! The response, though typically BC was far greater than expected, and gave a lot of purdy pics. I'm with @Unknown_User, coz this is fun! As to Andy's proposal: WOW! Methinks that is a close as we're gonna get, and maybe if these existed several decades ago, this is the one I was in fact looking for even though I remember and saw it as more "rectangular". Mind you, I've been doubting myself, as many different pics of Thunderbirds give many different impressions, and also they came in a plethora of variations - with for example different placements of the bridge (dunno how they do that - I'm no specialist in these models). The thing I remember from that bass, and from what I thought I saw on the telly is exactly this character of obviously stemming from a Thunderbird but with the angles that count being closer to 90 degrees than in an original Thunderbird. Andy's Rex does that exactly - to my eyes that is. Maybe you guys provably see it as much closer to a Thunderbird, Idunno. Yes indeed. I fully agree with you there, and I did try both before and after posting. Many of the programmes they show here in Norway can be seen online afterwards, but many can't. I've scanned what I can, but haven't found it. Should of course have made a note right away, but overestimating my memory is one of my weaknesses. If the programme was Norwegian, you wouldn't be able to see it outside Norway - hence my attempt to play it online and make a screenshot. Also, admittedly, my brain functions so unwell these days, that I might have seen an ad on my computer whilst watching tv - the bass being in the ad but my sick brain remembering it immediately as if the bass was on tv. Therefore I've trawled my papers in the hope of a possible ad appearing again. BTW, that would be Lord Bertie to you, but as you know I'm more of an Algy type. 😁 (Young uns: look it up! 🙂 ) Thanks, folks! Lord AlgyBertie

Already? It's only been 13 years. i hope they haven't rushed it.

Nice one @Raymondo BassChat rocks!

Loved this band since Undertow. I wonder if I'll get told off for having an erection in work? And don't you dare tell me that no one will notice!

I still love that little recess for the Smoothhound at the back. Being able to not only go wireless, but making the wirelessness "invisible", is the sort of detail that really gets my underpants thrumming. S.P.

Lol thanks for the replies chaps,much appreciated & made me laugh. Actually ended been a cracking night. My method was to ask in a rather harsh manner " where the f#$k am I supposed to go then,the f@cking car park" (yes I can be quite blunt) Suddenly in a flurry of movement several items where moved & hey presto I had some space 😁 They are great guys though

Oh we did! ... the light hearted banter sadly got lost in a bunch of folk seeing red (and gold) and discussions about the unimportance of low end crud. W@eude you have believed it?

Thanks for the comments guys! Yeah, I guess it might look like I have a thing for black and blue but the truth is I'm colour blind so I change out LEDS where possible for blue ones which are easier to see, and being diffused light, they don't piece my retinas like some of those MXR white ones! The clock is a DS Engineering Cronograph and actually saves me hunting around for my phone when playing or worse still, rudely checking my phone between songs to see the time. Don't tempt me with blue led tuners my ST300 mini and full size are going nowhere! 😂

It's great to read this kind of post

Try a different 2x12. The orange sounds great but is really a 1x12 in disguise and is not the loudest out there. You may find that a single good 2x12 is all you need.

Rather than everyone posting photos, Bertie old boy, can you remember what you were watching? Channel etc.

Cautiously looking forward to it. I would like there to be a bit more variation to the songwriting than 70 minutes of open string drop D riffs in odd time signatures. I jest, should be great. Saw them at the Academy in Glasgow on the 10,000 Days tour in 2006. The venue was pretty small and they had a stripped back light show, so you could really just watch and listen to them play. It was a brilliant gig. Maynard was dressed in luminous orange suspenders and was wearing an oversized cowboy hat. Considering the gig was in the south side of Glasgow in the middle of summer he really didn't look out of place.

Outdoor shooting today. ...

That's why we make quite a few different amps... Saying that we have sold way more GB heads than we originally planned for. We were simply happy to work with and make an amp for someone we consider a true bass legend. It was never about sticking his name on an amp and hoping that will equal sales... Lol, so we have heard... To be fair its not just the UK... We will happily put the Rootmaster 500 up against any lightweight amp, class D or not... If anyone wants to come and do this here you are more than welcome just let us know and we will get the coffee prepped.

Another BassCamp story, sorry. So here I am, on stage in the bar, playing/trying some basses. To avoid playing a riff composed by one of the bassists around, I chose to play some Obscure, french tune called "Soul Music Airlines" by Michel Jonasz. (look it up, it's a cool song). I get out of stage, and then Etienne M'Bappé (you know Etienne ? ) approaches me and says : That's a nice riff ! I said thanks, it's a song from Michel Jonasz he says : I know, I composed it. That's why I think it's a cool riff. badum tsss.

Yeah, when space is tight it seems like it's always us that gets the short end of the stick Here's how I handle it; " There's not enough room for your amp, you'll have to DI through the PA." Me; "No , I'm playing through my amp" Blue

I’ve arranged to buy a used LT tomorrow. Fun times ahead!

Hi Hugh, The video is informative and it's a good start, although it contains a few innacuracies that I hear being perpetuated, and a couple of points that I personally disagree about (but that's just my own view, of course), so I would have loved a slightly different take which covered those points... But of course, it's your video The first thing I would change is the active = higher output equation. You hear that everywhere and it's simply not true. Some active basses are high output, most are not, some are quieter than most passive basses. It depends on the preamp design and sometimes there's even a trim pot internally to adjust the output. Of course, if the active bass also has active EQ, and you boost it, you'll end up with one loud bass, which may explain this view of active=high output, but I think it's important to realise that it's not true. For the same reason, I hate seeing active/passive labels on amplifier inputs. In most cases, the passive input (non attenuated) works best for any given bass, but a guy with a Stingray would just plug into the active input without thinking... and on some amplifiers the attenuation circuit is pretty crude and not great sounding. The main thing with active basses is the low impedance output, as @itu pointed out. This allows you to be somewhat resistant (no pun intended ) to losses experienced when using long cables and passive instruments. However, your signal may become low impedance pretty early after leaving the bass if you use any number of pedals that would convert the signal. So it's not necessary to have an active bass to benefit from that, in principle. Some people talk about passive basses as being 'pure' but then the signal goes through pedals, often, through preamps and amplifying circuits... (shrug) I also see the equation active/passive as related to tone controls. It's true that most active basses have active EQ, but they're two different things. An active bass simply produces low impedance output. This can be achieved with or without active EQ. You may have EMG pickups (active) and passive tone controls (or no tone controls), or passive pickups and active EQ (most active basses), or an active preamp with separate tone controls, which could be passive, like on a G&L L2000. I think this is an important distinction to make. There's also the issue with passive = noisy. I just don't think that's correct. Most active basses are essentially passive basses with an additional active preamp with EQ capabilities. If anything, the chances of noise are higher on those because often the preamp designs are not terribly good, and they're limited to working with the voltage provided by one or two 9V batteries. A good preamp is very quiet, 'though. With regards to the use of batteries, the expense and chances of them dying mid-gig... I think that while not untrue, these factors are exaggerated. Expense: batteries are not that expensive, even if you buy singles at Sainsbury's, and they last a LONG time. I'd imagine most people spend far more on strings than on batteries. Just cut back one pint every few months and you'll be ok Dying mid-gig? Yes, it's a possibility... and it's happened to me. Once. On my Stingray. And boy, was I happy that I had a bypass switch installed on that bass (Stingrays don't have the active/passive option stock), as within a few seconds I was able to switch the bypass on, and carried on -albeit with a different tone- until we had a break and then changed the battery. However, it's very easy to avoid. Not fool-proof, as illustrated above (I'm a pretty good fool 😛 ) but it's simple: replace the battery at regular intervals,don't wait until it dies. Some preamps continue working fine until the battery reaches a threshold and just dies rapidly... others give you plenty of time with the signal degrading progressively. The best course is just to replace the battery before it happens. Most preamps would last a year if not a lot longer on a single Duracell battery (don't cheap out, cheap batteries almost invariable end up not being cheap at all). It depends on usage. My main bass, a Stingray, gets a lot of use and lasts well over a year. I replace it once a year (choose a date, stick to it, so you remember it easily). If I think I've been very busy and it was my only bass, I might change it twice a year. Other basses may last longer/shorter... whatever, choose a frequency whoch will be several months at the very least, and you will have no trouble. Of course, you may forget one time, like I did, and be on a specially busy period, like it was for me, and that battery died onstage after nearly 2 years. So having a bypass switch is never a bad idea. Another thing I'd add, which is related to the battery life, is to point out that the preamp is switched on by the act of inserting a cable into the socket. Some people leave basses plugged in constantly: that's using up the battery even if you don't play it. Switching it to 'passive' doesn't stop that, the preamp is still on. So always unplug. In fact, I'd say always unplug even on passive basses: saves someone tripping on a cable and pulling your bass down with it... But that's just me.

Haven't been on BassChat for a while and just stumbled across this thread today. Westone Thunder Basses? I bought a Westone Thunder IIIA from the Bass Centre in 1986. I think I bought it because it didn't look like a P-bass and it was red. I'd been ripped-off by my local music store when buying my first bass - a Squier JV 57 Precision with a twisted neck. So I decided I'd go to the top. I figured the Bass Centre couldn't afford to damage their reputation by selling me a lemon but it took some courage to go in to their shop as a novice bass player. But I did and boy was I glad. They treated me with respect and dignity and gave me the best advice they could based on my playing abilities and my budget - and for 360-quid I wound up with a red Westone Thunder IIIA plus gig-bag. That was thirty-two years ago and its still my main gigging bass today. The gig bag died years ago though. I wouldn't class it as a cheap bass either. 360 quid wasn't cheap in 1986. Mid-priced would be more accurate. I haven't seen too many red Thunder IIIs... well three to be exact. Mine, a red fretless in a second-hand shop that I should have bought and a picture of a red one online somewhere. The rest seem to be walnut brown colour. The red ones are louder! Years ago Guitarist magazine published a list of all the guitars and basses imported into the UK over a certain number of years. I can't remember how many years the list covered, nor can I find any reference to it anywhere but I DID see it. On that list it showed that there were only 20 (I think) red Westone Thunder IIIAs imported into the UK. They were imported by FCN Music of Tunbridge Wells who went out of business a million years ago. I didn't dream it, I definitely had that copy of Guitarist mag but its long-gone. So, in the UK at least, I would rate my red bass as fairly rare. I've had various modifications made to my bass over the years (all done by the Bass Centre). Badass Bridge, EMG pups, EMG Bass Tone Control, Gotoh tuners, Schaller strap-locks, replacement pots, jack sockets, control knobs and switches, fret polishes etc. but I've kept all the original parts safe in case I ever feel the need to put it back to its original spec. Its a fantastic instrument. Incredibly well-made and very stable - thirty-two years remember. And I play it in incredibly unforgiving circumstances at outdoor gigs in the Middle East and in my freezing cold air conditioned apartment. It thrives in both environments with an occasional tweak of the truss-rod. Good piece of kit, shame they went out of business.

I've bitten the bullet and pre-ordered the SY-1 from PMT. Normally we get hit in the UK with $1 = £1 on US manufactured goods and it's currently even worse with the Source Audio C4 $239 in the US but £249 in the UK. I kinda wanted to get my payment in before Boss spot that they are not selling at $ parity ($199 in the US); the SY-1 is on at a relatively 'reasonable' £175 over here at the moment, but if the £ continues to slide that may not last! Taking a bit of a chance given that I've not heard any decent bass reviews of this yet, but PMT have a 14 day return for online purchases, in case it does turn out to be a dud on bass which I'm really hoping / expecting it not to be! (Sorry Woody - you're unlikely to buying this one off me used )

Thanks, that's very kind of you. We should set up an arrangement to trade gigs sometime - travel broadens both the mind and the fan-base!!

The main downside to mixing cabs is that once you have a sound with both cabs you`re happy with you`ll never get that sound with just one of them, whereas have two of the same cab, both for gigs, one for rehearsals, makes life easy.