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Nowadays with the punk bands it`s cos we`re all in our 50s/60s, so actually do need to go to the toilet 🤣

Which is why I actually pay attention to this thread, when the moaners start moaning about an act I start listening exactly because they all sound like my Dad who moaned about Bowie, Roxy Music, Sparks in particular and M with Pop Muzik. Naturally he hated anything punk. What in particular set me off on this relationship with this thread was the negative reaction to The Good, The Bad & The Queen after their appearance on Jools Holland, I didn’t pay that much attention when they were on but all the negativity made me watch again, loved it. As far as I’m concerned all the ‘they can’t play/sing/ it’s a racket/lift music/noise’ grouchy Dad brigade can keep the moans coming, one of the better indicators of quality in my book.

We played an acoustic gig last night, 5:30 - 8:30 at The Harley Davidson Motor Restaurant. To me this is a great gig, professional staff, great hours, great pay and tips, very high caliber clientele. And the place is beautiful sitting on the Milwaukee River. We go back on January 25th. Blue

Yep, each to their own in terms of which bands/artists we all like... Perhaps atypically, I've come to the conclusion that, the older I've got, the list of music I like is much smaller than the list of music I like.. And like you, my Dad said the same sort of things to me when I used to watch TOTP growing up in the 70s; 'he /she can't sing ', 'what is he wearing, - looks like a girl ', 'what an' effin racket' etc, etc.. And the more he disliked something, the more I liked it! I guess I've just morphed into a slightly more open-minded version of my Dad. That's why the occasional artists that comes along like Little Simz or Somthai - who I surprised myself by really enjoying - are a bit like anti-ageing pills that stop me from becoming as close-minded as I remember my parents and their friends were..

Maybe we could throw jam instead?

Four strings; one p/up; no batteries!!

A ramp does NOT compensate for poor technique. It’s simply a device to change the feel of a bass. Saying you don’t understand why such a good player uses one is like saying you don’t understand why a good player might use a certain string gauge. And you can absolutely dig in with a ramp. You just alter your attack in the smallest way and you can do just as much as you can with a higher action.

@Si600 yes the tuner washer are recessed into the face of the headstock & the tuner shaft replaced by custom made shorter ones ...

This my problem with these comments. You're all sounding like my Dad. He was wrong and so are you. We should be fighting intolerance not adding to it.

Two things: 1 - Don’t be so insulting to the rest of the country. It’s not a cultural vacuum outside of the M25. 2 - Don’t be so insulting to other Basschatters. Learn to make a point without relying on barbs. Thank you.

Hell of a voice but all the yodeling and vocal gymnastics put me off. Most times, for me, less is more.

You have a point. What amazes me is how little social comment is made in mainstream music today, if any. Brexit, knife crime, drug / gang violence, racism / immigration; nobody goes near such subjects outside of grime / punk. In the eighties Radio 1 and the charts were full of political pop, with major labels behind it too. Somehow the mainstream has lost interest in confronting the world around it. Apathy in the UK indeed...

No long shaft 500k pots to hand so a mock up while I wait on them. Scratchplate is just paper but I do think it needs one,also help get position for the knobs. Pots will be rear mounted,chrome control plate is optional.

+1 to all the above.. That sums it up, that feeling of not being amazed, surprised or shocked by anything new that comes along anymore.. But that's our / my problem, not the fault of any new emerging artists. They're just doing their thing, totally immersed in it as they should be. New genres do emerge though apparently - Drill, Grime etc, etc.. It's just that I haven't the faintest idea what they are about though and I've no intention of finding out either! It's all too shouty and loud for a low-end old codger like me; I like elevator/advert music apparently, as made by the wonderful band that is Elbow! 😁

And then report back on how it gigs

That’d do me. Definitely something I could vote for! Though I can confidently say I’d be waiting a long time before I could make it sound anywhere near as good as young Mr Dart does!!

Surely it's more likely you would gravitate to an object with a greater mass? This said I am not a scientist

Probably because at one time when we were younger we actually liked the show. With age comes a lack of understanding the tastes of the younger musical generation. Or its just the Victor Meldrew syndrome creeping up on us older chaps. "I don't believe it" Dave

I have no problem with people not liking some music, its personal taste, it just seems that the Later with Jools thread is a place for people to come specifically to post about how much they dislike the show. Week after week. If I dont like something I dont bother with it, rather than bang on about how much I really dislike it.

I've only just seen this thread. That's my video. I made it for the HPF thread on here. I think all the info, along with frequency curves, was in the post I made. It was definitely using a Zoom B3 and was probably comparing single and stacked multiple AcBsPre patches. EDIT:so I've found the post: "With one AC BS Pre on the B3. The synth is running a sine wave 2 octaves below, so it's a bit extreme (near the end of the clip I turn the depth knob up and down to see the difference):" With a following post saying: "I've also just had a look at what multiple instances of the AC BS Pre might do. The frequency plot it unchanged having 1, 2 or 3 instances running." Here's the plot from earlier in the same thread: Top line is off, then Depth 10 - 0 (gain 50, bass toTreble 0) . Looks like once you get down to 15Hz and lower the white noise is a little less stable.

The same way as this little gem can be 40.

It's not the fact that people here are quick with -ve opinions that bothers me. Opinions are like arrseholes, after all. It's statements along the lines of "last night's programme didn't feature any music that was to MY particular taste, therefore the entire show is crap and past its sell-by and should be canned" that get my goat.

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Im 67 and have been gigging either drums, guitar or bass, at various times, since I was 15 and never had a problem. I started doing weights, mainly core and general strength about 25 years ago. I have no interest in big muscles or "Bulking up" but a top physio told me that as you age you lose muscle mass and general strength so even everyday activities slowly become more of an issue. The strength exercises keep me in shape and a two hour gig in never a problem. Two sessions a week in the gym are enough. Use it or lose it, as they say.

I'm not sure today's event qualifies as a "gig" but, hey, it was great! I play in our church band and today we had a church "away day". We didn't go far - from Carlisle to Keswick in the English Lake District. Door to door it is less than 30 miles. My drive took me up over the northern fells where sheep graze and wander across the road. I had to stop at one point to let a brood of peacocks wander across! The autumn colours were in full bloom and there was not a breath of wind as I drove along the shores of Bassenthwaite Lake into the small town of Keswick and our venue. Around 50 church members attended the event with just four of us providing the music. Our band leader played semi-acoustic guitar, the drummer just used a cajon, I played bass and we had one female singer. The day started with tea/coffee and pastries. We then played six songs interspersed with Bible teaching and more tea/coffee and cakes! We had all taken packed lunches and after eating some of us went for a walk along the shores of Derwent Water under a canopy of golden leaves. On return there was tea/coffee and more cake! While we were out some people stayed in the hall and watched a re-run of the England v South Africa rugby final. We then retired to another room and watched Toy Story 4 - brilliant. Then it was back to the main hall for a bulk order of fish and chips from a local "chippy", more cake, then home. That is what I call a gig!!

+1 sometimes, for a bunch of musicians, this place is quick to slag off and slow to listen and say anything positive.

I agree.. Think we need to lighten up around here though - a live music show on TV that gives musicians a chance to showcase what they do and reach potential new audiences is essential if we want to keep developing musical talent.. Slowthai is just the sort of artist who's music and performance gets a reaction.. Just like The Stooges, Sex Pistols, Public Enemy etc, etc did in their fay. I wouldn't sit and listen to it personally, but it's relevant to his audience and that's what counts. I liked a lot of the other stuff on the show too; Little Simz's band were brilliant - really heavy grooves and bass lines - right up my street! And Elbow can do no wrong AFAIC. Just my 2p worth of course.. 😊

I've just decided on my next project. Not sure whether to rackmount it or put it in a stomp though.

+1 In fact the only people who are going to read his descriptions and think they are anything other than pseudo-tech guff written by someone who really doesn't know what he is doing are total novices, probably the exact type of player who thinks it's the size of their fingers which is stopping them from fretting chords and not their technique. A lot of people don't even know guitars can be setup easily, they just think that some play terribly and some are decent. When MDP writes about how it has taken a number of days to get string height down (seriously, he actually says that) the buyer is going to think it has been influenced by some magical guitar builders's touch that they can't get anywhere else abd takes days of work, MDP even disparages guitar shop setups in his listings to reinforce this. Here's a really good way to figure out whether you should be defending him or not - imagine you have a friend who is wanting to learn guitar/bass after trying and failing previously. They send you a message with a link to one of his listings, could be the hacked together Legacy/Grabber copy bass, could be a 12>6 string acoustic conversion which rattles like hell due to the nut slots being cut too low, could be one of his basses which has electrical hum every time he takes his hands off the strings. Any one of his listings. The price is £350 and your friend thinks it would be ideal for them as he sounds trustworthy, has good feedback and talks about how much work he has put in to getting it playing well. What is your reply?

I don't necessarily agree with all your points, but if we are raising a party to throw rotten eggs at Paul Weller, then I am definitely in!

Couple of paddle necks from ebay. After I reshaped the one on the right I checked it against my MIJ 51 Paisley,needed to knock 6mm off it.

Pretty sure Iggy did the dancing in your pants thing long before FNM and the Chilli's were around. Just because someone has done something before doesn't preclude anyone else from doing it. It's art, self expression and should be given the space and freedom to exist. The folks digging Slowthai have never heard of any of the pants wearing predecessors and wouldn't be interested if you tried to show them. That was 30 years ago and has no relevance to the youth of today.

Looks like they want the Satriani heads to climb aboard.

@Osiris I admit it was refusal based on looks alone for the Talman. Not knocking Ibanez as a brand though. I have owned an SRX which was a superb sounding bass but neck a bit wimpy for my big hands. I also gigged with a Korean ATK for quite a few years, which to be fair is a bit marmite also in the design department, but sounded immense. I was in my mid -late 20's so could still handle that sort of weight around my neck for a couple of hours! Now I'm using my padded comfort strapp even on the little Bronco these days. @dannybuoy If that doesn't convince anyone these are really worthwhile considering as a "serious" instrument I don't know what will ! I concur with the guy on his general opinion, you can't really go wrong with these at the price.

I've got a Player Jazz. I was unimpressed with the pickups so I've swapped them and now it's come to life!

This has run its course.

There's been a lot of that in this thread, or put another way, folks starting to clutch at straws as they realise that yes, to all intents and despite their sense of injustice, this is just another example of internet bullying, albeit by a bunch of middle-aged blokes with not much else to do apparently (I'm assuming they're all middle-aged with nothing else to do using the same logic by which they assumed age and inexperience of the buyers). If they are that angry with this guy, why don't they they contact eBay, or trading standards, or the guy himself. Given they're all so knowledgable, they could perhaps offer him some friendly advice?

Do you not think his listings will automatically filter out anybody who knows about how guitars should be constructed or even those with basic woodworking knowledge? Surely you don't think anybody other than a total novice would browse what he has for sale and do anything other than laugh their b0ll0cks off? We have a guy in my local neighbourhood who sells old laptops at carboot sales, I see him every time I have a stroll around so he's probably there every week. Big table full of old consumer grade Pentium M and Core 2 Duos from XP to Vista eras, nothing you'd pay more than £35 for if you needed a basic laptop and you were skint. His strategy is remarkably similar to MDP's - massively inflated price tag (£140 for an old HP Core 2 Duo and £69 for a Celeron M Compaq last time I looked) and a label attached with sales guff proclaiming the programs he's installed and the effort put into setting it up. His customers seem to be mainly older folk who have no issue paying well over the odds as they trust the local computer expert and his sales patter over a faceless online store front. Literally nobody who knows what they are looking at would even consider buying one and would instantly recognise it as someone trying to gouge money by misrepresenting a product, thus any knowledgeable buyers are instantly filtered out. MDP's listings have the same effect IMO, nobody who has been playing in any sort of semi-serious capacity and has gained even the tiniest bit of knowledge would think those instruments were worth more than 20% of the asking price. The only people clicking BIN are novices.

I pretty much stopped playing when I moved to St Helens, never found a band that would have me! I only dabble at home now. Welcome along and if you're a Saints man - congratulations! 👍

Is that what you get now instead of the NME's current favourite landfill indie haircut band? Not watched it for about 4 years - my, how times change. Used to force myself to sit through it as it was the only live music on TV. In recent years I appear to have exhausted my supply of giveafuk.