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Nowadays with the punk bands it`s cos we`re all in our 50s/60s, so actually do need to go to the toilet 🤣

Which is why I actually pay attention to this thread, when the moaners start moaning about an act I start listening exactly because they all sound like my Dad who moaned about Bowie, Roxy Music, Sparks in particular and M with Pop Muzik. Naturally he hated anything punk. What in particular set me off on this relationship with this thread was the negative reaction to The Good, The Bad & The Queen after their appearance on Jools Holland, I didn’t pay that much attention when they were on but all the negativity made me watch again, loved it. As far as I’m concerned all the ‘they can’t play/sing/ it’s a racket/lift music/noise’ grouchy Dad brigade can keep the moans coming, one of the better indicators of quality in my book.

We played an acoustic gig last night, 5:30 - 8:30 at The Harley Davidson Motor Restaurant. To me this is a great gig, professional staff, great hours, great pay and tips, very high caliber clientele. And the place is beautiful sitting on the Milwaukee River. We go back on January 25th. Blue

Yep, each to their own in terms of which bands/artists we all like... Perhaps atypically, I've come to the conclusion that, the older I've got, the list of music I like is much smaller than the list of music I like.. And like you, my Dad said the same sort of things to me when I used to watch TOTP growing up in the 70s; 'he /she can't sing ', 'what is he wearing, - looks like a girl ', 'what an' effin racket' etc, etc.. And the more he disliked something, the more I liked it! I guess I've just morphed into a slightly more open-minded version of my Dad. That's why the occasional artists that comes along like Little Simz or Somthai - who I surprised myself by really enjoying - are a bit like anti-ageing pills that stop me from becoming as close-minded as I remember my parents and their friends were..

Maybe we could throw jam instead?

Four strings; one p/up; no batteries!!

A ramp does NOT compensate for poor technique. It’s simply a device to change the feel of a bass. Saying you don’t understand why such a good player uses one is like saying you don’t understand why a good player might use a certain string gauge. And you can absolutely dig in with a ramp. You just alter your attack in the smallest way and you can do just as much as you can with a higher action.

@Si600 yes the tuner washer are recessed into the face of the headstock & the tuner shaft replaced by custom made shorter ones ...

This my problem with these comments. You're all sounding like my Dad. He was wrong and so are you. We should be fighting intolerance not adding to it.

Two things: 1 - Don’t be so insulting to the rest of the country. It’s not a cultural vacuum outside of the M25. 2 - Don’t be so insulting to other Basschatters. Learn to make a point without relying on barbs. Thank you.

Hell of a voice but all the yodeling and vocal gymnastics put me off. Most times, for me, less is more.

You have a point. What amazes me is how little social comment is made in mainstream music today, if any. Brexit, knife crime, drug / gang violence, racism / immigration; nobody goes near such subjects outside of grime / punk. In the eighties Radio 1 and the charts were full of political pop, with major labels behind it too. Somehow the mainstream has lost interest in confronting the world around it. Apathy in the UK indeed...

No long shaft 500k pots to hand so a mock up while I wait on them. Scratchplate is just paper but I do think it needs one,also help get position for the knobs. Pots will be rear mounted,chrome control plate is optional.

+1 to all the above.. That sums it up, that feeling of not being amazed, surprised or shocked by anything new that comes along anymore.. But that's our / my problem, not the fault of any new emerging artists. They're just doing their thing, totally immersed in it as they should be. New genres do emerge though apparently - Drill, Grime etc, etc.. It's just that I haven't the faintest idea what they are about though and I've no intention of finding out either! It's all too shouty and loud for a low-end old codger like me; I like elevator/advert music apparently, as made by the wonderful band that is Elbow! 😁

And then report back on how it gigs

That’d do me. Definitely something I could vote for! Though I can confidently say I’d be waiting a long time before I could make it sound anywhere near as good as young Mr Dart does!!

Surely it's more likely you would gravitate to an object with a greater mass? This said I am not a scientist

Probably because at one time when we were younger we actually liked the show. With age comes a lack of understanding the tastes of the younger musical generation. Or its just the Victor Meldrew syndrome creeping up on us older chaps. "I don't believe it" Dave

I have no problem with people not liking some music, its personal taste, it just seems that the Later with Jools thread is a place for people to come specifically to post about how much they dislike the show. Week after week. If I dont like something I dont bother with it, rather than bang on about how much I really dislike it.

I've only just seen this thread. That's my video. I made it for the HPF thread on here. I think all the info, along with frequency curves, was in the post I made. It was definitely using a Zoom B3 and was probably comparing single and stacked multiple AcBsPre patches. EDIT:so I've found the post: "With one AC BS Pre on the B3. The synth is running a sine wave 2 octaves below, so it's a bit extreme (near the end of the clip I turn the depth knob up and down to see the difference):" With a following post saying: "I've also just had a look at what multiple instances of the AC BS Pre might do. The frequency plot it unchanged having 1, 2 or 3 instances running." Here's the plot from earlier in the same thread: Top line is off, then Depth 10 - 0 (gain 50, bass toTreble 0) . Looks like once you get down to 15Hz and lower the white noise is a little less stable.

The same way as this little gem can be 40.

It's not the fact that people here are quick with -ve opinions that bothers me. Opinions are like arrseholes, after all. It's statements along the lines of "last night's programme didn't feature any music that was to MY particular taste, therefore the entire show is crap and past its sell-by and should be canned" that get my goat.

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Im 67 and have been gigging either drums, guitar or bass, at various times, since I was 15 and never had a problem. I started doing weights, mainly core and general strength about 25 years ago. I have no interest in big muscles or "Bulking up" but a top physio told me that as you age you lose muscle mass and general strength so even everyday activities slowly become more of an issue. The strength exercises keep me in shape and a two hour gig in never a problem. Two sessions a week in the gym are enough. Use it or lose it, as they say.

I'm not sure today's event qualifies as a "gig" but, hey, it was great! I play in our church band and today we had a church "away day". We didn't go far - from Carlisle to Keswick in the English Lake District. Door to door it is less than 30 miles. My drive took me up over the northern fells where sheep graze and wander across the road. I had to stop at one point to let a brood of peacocks wander across! The autumn colours were in full bloom and there was not a breath of wind as I drove along the shores of Bassenthwaite Lake into the small town of Keswick and our venue. Around 50 church members attended the event with just four of us providing the music. Our band leader played semi-acoustic guitar, the drummer just used a cajon, I played bass and we had one female singer. The day started with tea/coffee and pastries. We then played six songs interspersed with Bible teaching and more tea/coffee and cakes! We had all taken packed lunches and after eating some of us went for a walk along the shores of Derwent Water under a canopy of golden leaves. On return there was tea/coffee and more cake! While we were out some people stayed in the hall and watched a re-run of the England v South Africa rugby final. We then retired to another room and watched Toy Story 4 - brilliant. Then it was back to the main hall for a bulk order of fish and chips from a local "chippy", more cake, then home. That is what I call a gig!!

+1 sometimes, for a bunch of musicians, this place is quick to slag off and slow to listen and say anything positive.

+1 In fact the only people who are going to read his descriptions and think they are anything other than pseudo-tech guff written by someone who really doesn't know what he is doing are total novices, probably the exact type of player who thinks it's the size of their fingers which is stopping them from fretting chords and not their technique. A lot of people don't even know guitars can be setup easily, they just think that some play terribly and some are decent. When MDP writes about how it has taken a number of days to get string height down (seriously, he actually says that) the buyer is going to think it has been influenced by some magical guitar builders's touch that they can't get anywhere else abd takes days of work, MDP even disparages guitar shop setups in his listings to reinforce this. Here's a really good way to figure out whether you should be defending him or not - imagine you have a friend who is wanting to learn guitar/bass after trying and failing previously. They send you a message with a link to one of his listings, could be the hacked together Legacy/Grabber copy bass, could be a 12>6 string acoustic conversion which rattles like hell due to the nut slots being cut too low, could be one of his basses which has electrical hum every time he takes his hands off the strings. Any one of his listings. The price is £350 and your friend thinks it would be ideal for them as he sounds trustworthy, has good feedback and talks about how much work he has put in to getting it playing well. What is your reply?

NFBDR- New Fun Bass Day Review Well as I found myself back on a budget , and conceded defeat to advancing age not being fully compatible with the weight of Les Paul style basses, and having owned the fabulous Gretsch Junior Jet short scale, but not now able to work in that price bracket for the foreseeable, I found myself asking some pretty deep and meaningful questions, for example: " I need a bass, I will actually die without a bass, but which one for under £200 ?", "Should I stay long scale, and be a real bass player or risk being the laughing stock of the bass playing world by going for another shorty?" "Should I take a risk of catching herpes from a used, possibly stolen but decent bass, with the slight bonus of maybe finding a small bag of weed hidden in the control cavity, from Cash Converters?" "What colour should I go for? What would make me potentially look really cool … Sunburst, Black, Natural etc etc?" So armed with my virtual £200.00 I decided that as I was already halfway to the dark side after stints with short and medium scale and loved the playability, I opted to go for short scale with the intention of staying there ,so went for a look around proper online guitar shops to see what's on offer as I decided I didn't want to catch an infection from Cash Converters or eBay on this occaision. I had seen the Bronco before but not given it much consideration at the time, and to be honest there's a real lack of choice out there currently... The Ibanez Talman looks like it's been designed late on a Friday afternoon after a lunchtime booze up then sent to the far east to be put together by underpaid Asian elephants.... forget that. There was also the Dean Evo Xm, which I had for a short while but it went back as there was just too much wrong with it, including a really narrow 38mm nut which is not my favourite. A real shame cos it has the les paul vibe and a pretty decent sounding instrument. I saw Jackson minions , Ibanez micro things, possibly something else , but I really liked the look of the Bronco bass and reviews seemed to be generally favourable, so opted naturally for a black one as they only come in black or bright red, and red Fenders remind me of Hank Marvin and the Shadows which is just not cool for an ageing has-been mid 40's Rockstar! So I found the cheapest price which currently is GAK at £149.00 inc next day delivery, so that's where I purchased from. It arrived yesterday as promised in a Box with F logos and Squier branding. No other fancy packaging, just the instrument wrapped up with a couple of warning labels saying if I touch it I risk getting cancer or something, and a free set of allen keys to add to my already large collection of allen keys. Pulled out the little Bronco noting it's very reasonable weight, and then spending a few minutes admiring it's little glossy black coat, and generally handsome appearence. As I generally go for very light gauge bass strings , I liked the fact it comes fitted with what I will assume are Fender 40-95's so that was good. Not really much in the way of floppiness on the E string, or any other string for that matter. It has a really nice shape to the compact body , balances well, I like the stubby little horns, and it has a nice comfortable, though little anaemic looking maple neck. It has the Squier bronco bass logo in black on the headstock with "by Fender" underneath. On the back it says "made in Indonesia". The scratch plate is a simple 1 ply white, with a couple of decent feeling chrome knobs for volume and tone. After reading some of the negative comments about these like the crap tuners , crap bridge, crap strat pickup, crap body wood, crap electrics, not as good as my vintage $5000 Fender Musicmaster etc etc I realised I was on Talkbass, so I completley disregarded what I read. To address those concerns, I actually think the tuners are really pretty good and seem quite solid. The tops remind me of Schaller M4's nice and chunky. It's good to see mini tuners as opposed to the big clunky Fender things for a change. The bridge is actually really nice, doesn't feel like a piece of cheese. I love the shape of it, it actually intonates almost spot on despite the 2 strings per saddle setup, and if there was one criticism it would be the slightly bigger gap between the A and D strings. Maybe due to the design of this style of bridge? I can live with the quirk. I can't comment on the electrics or quality as of yet. First things first, I sat with it unplugged to get a general feel and give it a tweak or 2 before plugging in. I can say it sets up incredibly well. I have the strings almost sat on the fret board with no buzz, the truss rod needed the tiniest of turns to get it just so. The intonation was pretty much spot on as is with no adjustment needed. Plugging in, to be fair I wasn't expecting much for the money, but to say it has a strat guitar pickup in it, it sounds pretty damn good. Nice sharp punchy tone, not masses of low end, and does seem sensitive to where you are placing your fingers, something I seem to notice more on this bass than with others. Output *is* a little on the low side but tonally absolutely fine (through quality headphones) as far as could be expected at this price. I already have spent a few quid on a hot rail pickup or rather warm rail which I will try out when it gets here. As mentioned the neck is lovely. 40 mm nut width , and oddly it has 19 frets (?!). It's a shame that it doesn't have a vintage tint but I guess 'coz of budget and stuff..... something that could be attended to if needed at some point. It is comfortable to hold and just has that fun "short scale playability", and to me this is what a bass should be regardless of personal ability or at what level...if it ain't fun then what's the point of bothering. I can bang out a variety of rock/ hard rock/ metal classics on it, putting in very little physical effort, everything from 70's to modern stuff. It just sounds fab, and if I manage to join another band this will be the bass to do it on. No acheing back, no stretching 3 miles to reach the end of the fretboard, has a guitar-like coolness to it etc etc. While not quite having the same instant wow factor as the Gretsch did, it's also not in that price range, and for what I paid, I am actually even more impressed because of that in a way. Aside from trying a different pickup and possibly changing the pickguard for a 3 ply from that bloke on ebay who sells them, there really isn't much else that I feel needs to be done. Obviously time will tell on that score, but from the outset, it's all good. Definitely one I will recommend for anyone wanting to see what all the fuss is with SS basses. Thanks for reading my waffle !

Nope, the 310As are our PA speakers. For pub gigs where we are providing the PA, I just use my BF cab as both audience and stage cab - no monitor for the bass. The BF SC has excellent dispersion though, so relatively easy to hear myself.

Not my experience regarding the B string on my 1805. It feels ‘right’ & sounds focused.

Not at the moment, only doing a PDF version to start with (this may change if there's enough demand for paperbacks)

Evening all, After falling down a youtube rabbithole recently, I stumbled on some bass vids and started to get the bug again... Played a bit in my late teens/early 20s with a Peavey Fury IV which had to be sold about 10 years ago. Looking to get back on the scene, starting from scratch. am more studious in my 30s, so looking to put my time into the knowledge side, rather than just downloading tabs 😁

Not last night but Thursday night we played at Don’t Panic in Essen, Germany, a venue owned by our record company Sunny Bastards. We set off at 5am, hoping to get to our hotel at 3pm which is the usual state of affairs when we play there however this time it wasn’t to be. Due to really rotten traffic we had to go straight to the venue, arriving at 7pm so had spent 13hrs travelling. Just before the gig the owner was looking a bit concerned as we were a little tired to say the least, however once we were on - at 10:30 so a very long day - his concern dropped and we played a blinder. The audience don’t care how long your day has been or how tired you are, you’re there for them and have a duty to play your best show and we delivered. Was an hours set and the crowd were up for it, to the point where I mentioned tongue in cheek “try not to kill each other” though there was more than a slight element of truth in it as it was more than a bit rough down the front. So back to the hotel at 1:30am, on the road at 7:45am, back home at 6:45pm shattered but knowing we did a great gig, and more than covered our costs of van/ferry/hotels/fuel. Result!

Just concerning his feedback, as eBay buyers are now anonymous, what's to say the guy isn't getting his missus to buy his stuff and put positive feedback up? Also I'm uncertain whether there's any speedy way to ascertain whether he's relisted previously sold stuff, if at all.

Indeed. And sadly the bad thing about Ebay is sellers can 'fine tune' the feedback that gets left, thus. Couple years ago I spent a tennerish plus postage on a clothing bag/suit protector type thing off Ebay, was from a seller with large product turnover. The product was advertised with all the usual guff we've all come to know and love "Hi quality....super tough....etc etc " It tore as I tried to take it out its plastic bag packaging. A bit miffed, I left them negative feedback and set about trying to find a decent product (Which I haven't to this very day, I don't think they exist) Day or so later I received an email telling me that if I retracted that feedback, they'd refund me in full. Now, how many people would go for that sort of deal? A very large percentage Id wager. I didn't as it goes, coz I was so p*ssed off and I'm generally a very stubborn bugger. I left my feedback there. But I never got a refund.

Agreed. If I saw this thread and I wasn't a member, I'd not join the forum. As it is it makes me wonder if I want to be associated with a place where such playground behaviour is tolerated, so if you don't see me around for a while....well, you know why I've gone.

Here’s part 2 , of Devon Bradshaws video if anyone is interested 🙂

Maybe the band had nothing whatsoever to do with placing the ad? It looks to me like something that an acquaintance who thought they were helping out would do.