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I've spoken to you a few times now about your conduct on the forum, but it doesn't seem to be sinking in. You have your opinion, and I think those you are challenging have clearly and eloquently set out their stall by way of reply. You don't need to keep prodding for some sort of vindication or apology - and when it's clear none is forthcoming you revert to type by throwing remarks like this around. To be clear, the mods: Are unpaid Considered friends Are all Interested in this forum being well balanced and open Are not moderating for fun or power Don't deserve to be spoken to like that and finally, they're human. Well I think. Mostly. Any thoughts on that?16 points
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People are created out of the environment we live in. I don't know how old you are, but in the 50s and 60s I remember there were a few "casual slang" terms we used for referring to our dusky bretherin who were beginning to appear in the area. Many theories about their cleanliness and lifestyles were banded about. Move forward 50 and we all have been told the errors and we now know those names are wrong. Totally wrong, not even in jest are they excusable. Many of us who will have used the N word on occasions 50 years back are today's angry protestors on a BLM rally. So, in conclusion, Sir: you are wrong. 50 years is a long time for our environement and view to have changed.10 points
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And here it is...9 points
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From wikipedia: Charlie Cheap and Norman Unnecessary were a short-lived film comedy duo from the 1950s. Billed as "Basingstoke's very own Abbot & Costello", they starred in several self-produced films such as 'Who Are These People?' and 'Ooh I Say, It's Cheap And Unnecessary', none of which were particularly successful outside Hampshire. Their career as a duo was effectively killed when Charlie Cheap made a series of derogatory remarks about the Duke of Argyll's choice of necktie, not realising that his words were being caught on camera by a Pathé newsreel team. An acrimonious split followed and they each attempted solo careers, resulting in films such as 'Oh My Word, It's Cheap But Definitely Not Unnecessary' and 'Norman's Not Cheap', but these sank without trace. A year later, Norman Unnecessary died in a bizarre gardening accident. Charlie Cheap was last seen on a tramp steamer working his passage to Uruguay. Ironically, the tramp steamer also sank without trace.9 points
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50 years ago words were used out of ignorance. In some areas and some areas of society almost everybody used those words. In our house they were never used, but as a 5yrs old kid we picked them up in the playground. When at home I was told off for such language; and quite rightly too. You ask if it was okay to dislike non white. No it's never been okay to show a dislike for anyone for irrational reasons. Those words were often not used out of any dislike or hate. People were called a "N" or similar because you'd learnt from others that was a label for them, the same as a flat piece of wood with 4 legs is called "a table". In this case it was never "right" or "okay". We were ignorant. It wasn't that we disliked anyone for their background of ethnicity, they were simply words. Probably fed into the dictionary of the society by people who did hate for unknown reasons. I look back at my time in school and really feel for the 2 or 3 black kids in the school. They were largely ignored and must have felt cold and isolated. They didn't get bulllied or anything, as far as I know. But it can't have been easy. They lived in a poor areas in a level of poverty. Looking about today, as a society, we have come a long way. Black people in the UK do have a better life than the one I recall. We still have a way to go to get to the point where we have true equality. In an equal world we wouldn't even be having this conversation and for me to refer to a friend as being "black" would mean no more than to say "he's wearing a green shirt". No, I'm not back peddaling. No, I'm not racist. My Mum was. No she didn't tollerate the words, but her attitude was one of superiority and self-righteousness that was always wrong. That's a more invisible form of predjudice. No laws will stop that. It will only stop through keeping on changing our society and teaching the way. As @Dad3353 says, we Brits are a cruel lot. In the past couple of centuries we raped and pilleged other countries and told ourselves we did them a favour by taking "civilisation" to them. We shoved our own children up chimneys and under machines in cotton mills where they would be injured or killed. We forced 5 yrs old kids to work in dangerous damp coal mines where they would manually work the air pump in the dark; because you don't need a light to do that job. What we have done to others and our own was bad. Most is bad because of the rich forcing our poor into bad situations. But to call this "civilisation" was a gross misuse of the word. @ClassicVibes, if you can get to 75 years old, or however old Clapton is, with no regrets in life then you've done nothing in life. When you get to 75 you too will have regrets. I hope they're small ones.8 points
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EC without a doubt, has been among one of the most influential musicians this country has produced in the last 50 odd years. The only problem is that a lot of his material post "461 Ocean Boulevard" has sounded pretty much the same. I think the only good album he did in that period was "From the Cradle", where he went back to his roots in the Blues. This is just my opinion, but his best work was with John Mayall, Cream, Blind Faith, and the Derek & the Dominoes period. And I have absolutely no idea who Phoebe Bridges is...8 points
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Rare Limited Edition Steve Barr dudepit limited edition in shoreline gold. This is based on a Jazz Bass but has two lipstick pickups with much wider spacing than a normal jazz. It has a 3 band active circuit which I think is bartolini. Vol, treble, mid, bass, panpot. Can be used passive if you pull out the volume knob. Huge range of tones. 1.5/8 neck feels very nice. I will find a gig bag for it. fantastic condition Pristine apart from a few marks on the end of the headstock. As with my other listings I wont ship this but willing to meet half way or deliver say 150 miles for diesel.7 points -
I've been promising to stick this in the Alembic thread but it might fit here too7 points
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This is my bass of pure indulgence, Alembic Series II Europa. I was recording with it last night and still consider myself extremely fortunate to own it. And It's never been used as a coffee table. 😎🤣😍7 points
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I can hardly contain my indifference to EC and have never heard of P Bridges. But she sounds a class act with the “dead baby song” jibe. Way to go Pheeeebs, must have you round sometime. 🙄7 points
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Lakland 44-64 precision was originaly called the Bob Glaub. I cant remember what the shade of metallic green is. I have only seen one other lakland in this colour, I imported it from the states. The bass is pristine apart from two very small marks by the lower strap button and a mark at the end of the headstock. [Why do drummers have so many cymbals?] 1 3/4 neck at the headstock end, and I think these are Hansen Pickups. Plays nicely [it was plekked at the factory] Sounds great and comes with tags, and a Lakland gid bag I wont ship this but willing to meet up or deliver say 150 miles for diesel.6 points -
To be fair, there is very little to discuss on his music. Like him or loath him you would have to be very positive on his achievements to think that he had done anything actually interesting since the 70s. I always wondered, when people say things like 'if hendrix hadn't died just think what amazing things he would be doing now' and the answer is, you really don't know do you? I would think that he would have continued to innovate, but maybe he would have just stayed stuck doing the same thing. Or he could have gone all synth pop in the 80s and ended up playing vegas. Maybe some memories are better the way they are!6 points
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OK , I’ll play ...my new toy....Stenback 46 points
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Whatever. I could point you to some of your own previous posts on this very Forum, for which warnings have been issued, yet you've been 'pardoned' enough to still be here. Maybe your own 'logic' should be applied and you not given any second chances..?6 points
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If this is a sincere belief, I despair. 'Glass houses' and 'stones' come to mind, as do 'pots' and 'kettles'. Just for balance, I'd suggest 'pardon' and 'forgiveness' as elements of vocabulary.6 points
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Do you not think it would be ‘was a racist’? I also have no time for racist musicians, but the racist incident was over 40 years ago when EC was on a drug and booze fuelled downward spiral that nearly killed him. He has since spoken of how ashamed he is and apologised for his comments. This doesn’t condone his behaviour but does show how he realises how wrong it was. He speaks of this in the recent ‘Life in 12 Bars’ documentary.6 points
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Clapton. Once he was brilliant. He lost his way with drugs and mental health issues. That racist rant can be, perhaps, forgiven but not forgotten. Not for being in a different context, but because he was screwed up. The worst aspect being that it was a kick in the teeth for all the people whose shoulders he had stood on, and others who were (and some who still are) his friends. It was certainly a nadir for a life that's had some ups and downs. But I'm willing to believe that wasn't the 'real' Clapton. It was sensibly, if not fully, explored in that recent documentary. I don't think his views were as deeply rooted as, say, Wagner's anti-semitism, but that doesn't stop me appreciating Wagner's music - it does help give it a context. But for Clapton, that rant doesn't seem to make any sense in the context of his life and music. Ironically when Clapton got his stinky poo back together, he had completely lost his edge, musically, at least as a songwriter. He can still achieve brilliance as a soloist, but like Mark Knopfler he's wholeheartedly embraced the middle of the musical road for his own output. And if we are all going to have any chance of living in harmony, we have to remember to 'hate the sin, not the sinner' and accept that people can change and redeem themselves {all said in a religion-neutral way].5 points
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Whilst I wouldn’t particularly credit racists with great intelligence Eric Clapton would need to be a spectacularly stupid one, given the music that influenced him. And re Tears in Heaven, beautifully sad song and given the subject matter I always wonder how he manages to perform it live without breaking down.5 points
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I mean, she's not wrong on either count is she? Rock Against Racism was formed as a direct reaction to Eric Clapton. Maybe mediocre is the wrong word for his music though as it always seems to be expertly put together. Perhaps the way to describe it would be "Blues written by focus group"?5 points
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Mediocre means “of average quality, not very good” and I think it’s fair to apply that to the last 30 years or so of his music. I find it bland and dull, albeit immaculately played. Eric’s fans and customers disagree and vote with their wallets so the joke is on me and Phoebe, I suppose 🙂5 points
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Threads are like children, you start them off all well intentioned, then they get their own ideas and throw parties when you are out and get god-knows-what in the carpet and eventually move out to shack up with someone you don't approve of.4 points
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We have a one month trial period. If it isn't loud enough send it back. There's no better way to find out if a cab works for you - you can't crank any bass or guitar rig up loud enough in a shop to hear the truth.4 points
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DAVE: Route the bodies correctly, HAL. HAL: I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that. DAVE: What’s the problem? HAL: I think you know what the problem just as well as I do. DAVE: What are you talking about, HAL?4 points
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Just before this thread descends into Anarchy, we have got all this way into it with 'ner a mention of Jack Bruce, Dave Bronze and Nathan East who all have 'contributed' to EC's mediocrity....4 points
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S'not all that long ago folks were burned witches. S'not all that long ago folks went to prison for meeting up in public toilets. S'not all that long ago it was policy to 'bus' kids to schools. Things evolve, and folks evolve too. These disparaging aspersions are more indications of your own 'mindset' than that of others.4 points
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I just laughed out loud at the idea of a 'mods power trip'. Seriously.4 points
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The boy who called out the emperors new clothes was insignificant too. But he called it right.4 points
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At this stage I believe UPS are waiting for you to leave the house, even for just 5 minutes, so they can swoop in and push a 'Sorry we missed you' card through the letter box. Chances are the delivery guy has been waiting in the bushes since Friday just waiting for you to leave.4 points
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Due to the Covid-19 situation and severe back problems (66% officially disabled because of it) plus right shoulder injury (non-operable capsulitis from which, after more than 3 years, I will never fully recover), I'm selling all my basses over 4 kilos and also the ones I'm not really using. I've also considerably lowered the price for a quick sale. KRAMER 450 B original fretless from 1979 with original latte macchiato hard case. NOW OPENED (past participle) TO TRADES ! Asking price including shipping fully insured with tracking number to your place in these European countries (ask for other countries) : Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France (excluding French overseas departments and territories), Germany, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxemburg, Monaco, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and United Kingdom : £999 GBP !!! In fully working condition, fully original (except for the new tuners as the original ones were dead and the two strap buttons) and in very good overall condition. Here are the specifications : Body : walnut and maple Neck : aluminium with walnut inserts Fingerboard : ebonol (bakelite, in fact) Positions : 20 original lined fretless (not a defretted model) Headstock : 2 + 2 shape (angled) Pickups : 2 original Kramer with their original wood surroundings (pickups are adjustable ONLY at the back) Preamp : passive Controls : 2 volumes, 2 tones, 3 positions switch with the original aluminium drop Tuners : new Schaller M4 180 Light (to avoid neck diving) Bridge : original Kramer Strings spacing at bridge : 18.5 mm Nut : aluminium with zero fret Strings spacing at nut : 11 mm Knobs : 4 new identical to the original knurled type ones (original well worn and partly broken do come with the bass) Scale : 33 3/4" Hardware colour : chrome and aluminium Truss rod : none and perfect very slight relief whatever strings gauge you may put Finish : high gloss Land of craftsmanship : USA Serial number : 22168 Year : 1979 Weight : 4.505 kilos Action : from a bit under 1.5 mm under the G string to a bit under 2 mm under the E string at 12th position (can go lower, but was perfect for me) Will come with the original Kramer rare latte macchiato hard case and 1 NOS spare set of Alembic CX3-45L strings that suit this fretless at the perfection, even if they have a bad habit to rust in places even when new !?! Non-smoking environment as usual. The bass has been fully set up professionally by Christophe LEDUC who did a fingerboard dressing and changed the tuners. It has been fitted with a brand new set of Alembic CX3-45L nickel pressure wound strings (45 - 65 - 80 - 105). This bass is, despite its age, still very modern sounding and dead silent. No neck diving with the new tuners. Link to the Kramer vintage aluminium page : http://www.vintagekramer.com/alum.htm Link to the Schaller tuners fitted : https://www.emma-music.com/-schaller,us,4,SCH-503172.cfm Link to the Alembic strings : http://www.alembic.com/prod/strings.html What you see is what you get ! Look at the photos taken under different angles to see the very good condition for a 41 years old bass ! Pay attention to the neck fitting where you can hide lots of things : it's the way they were assembled, sometimes very tight, sometimes not at all, but it has no incidence on the sound. All the photos are here : https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ENOsU_o_tTfLEu2doDGyeCVE-xYls0Vr?usp=sharing Don't hesitate to ask for more.3 points -
During this depressing epidemic, I saw an advert in ‘Joinmyband’ requiring an experienced bass player to form a trio. After several comms it sounded positive and I got quite excited about learning new material and I bought this bass. A few weeks later the main guy said that the drummer had lost interest and doesn’t want to gig anymore. I didn’t even meet them. Anyway, the bass is for sale. As new condition. Fabulous sound. Cheers Geoff 01902833173 WV149PU West Mids3 points -
Hi all, So I am debating another custom build... as such I'm turning loose this rather splendid 7 string Overwater Progress III bass. It's a beautiful bass in immaculate condition and works exactly as it should. It has a mahogany body with a fantastic quilt maple top and a nice thick ebony fretboard. Looking at the current Overwater price list, this would be near £4500 to have made today, so save yourself over £3000 and buy my one! The tonal palette is vast, you can achieve crisp, bell like, paino-esque tones through to super boomy bass and pretty much everything in between. This is only for sale to fund another custom build, otherwise I'd keep it! It has recessed strap pins that work with Dunlop strap locks. The bridge is the standard Overwater high mass bridge, and excellent piece of design. The pickups are Overwater Kent Armstrong pickups and it had 'factory' custom wood top hat knobs with centre indents. It really is about as good as you can get for a bass! Scale is 35" Spacing at bridge is 18mm Spacing at nut is 9mm weight is 5.9kg All in it is an absolute monster of an instrument in the best of condition made in the UK by one of the finest luthiers. £1400 is a steal for a mint £4400 bass. Collection from Basildon, Essex is preferred, but postage can be arranged. Any questions, let me know!3 points -
Well, thankfully, it hasn't deteriorated into a proxy competition between two fine musicians and performers. It's just me derailing a thread again to propose that a world with Bob Mould and Eric Clapton in it is a better world than one without them. As for the influence thing, in his time Clapton spawned a million guitar faces and several hundred thousand blues bands. To this day, if a guitarist suggests playing a blues I assume he probably means the Clapton version rather than the original by Blind Lemon Chitling. So, yes influential. As for Bob, we know that a generation of 90's bands ripped off Husker Du and Sugar. It may have been Grohl or Cobain or Black Francis (?) who said something like 'We owe it all to Bob Mould'. Each, in their time, influential but to different degrees and in different ways. The marvellous thing is I can flip a switch and listen to either of them at their best and at no cost. What a time to be alive3 points
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Can’t get enough of Alex and the gang at the moment...3 points
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Just bought a Valeton expression pedal off Bas! He Says he's downgrading, but he'll end up with all the latest new pedals next week!! 😉😂 Dealt with him loads of times and he's a gent and is fast becoming my pedal "Pusher man" in fact nobody sell him a pedal again, just send them straight to me 😂3 points
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Agree with you about EC ‘s voice, sadly underrated ( due to his guitar playing maybe?). And the other comment mentioned is not only out of order, but technically incorrect - poor Conor Clapton was actually 4 and a half years old when he fell to his death in a tragic accident from a New York high rise apartment.3 points
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No idea who the wee lassie is but I've said EC was overrated for near 40 years.3 points
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Joni Mitchell trod a very eclectic and fruitful path.3 points
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I think that you can make a case that Clapton is the most influential electric guitarist ever, even more so than Hendrix, Van Halen, Les Paul, Chuck Berry, the 3 Kings et al. He was never such a big thing for me, but I was surprised to find out that a couple of the best guitar players I have known were massive fans. He may not necessarily be the most original, but he was the guy who put it all together and got in front of a mass audience. His influence is such that virtually every guitar player is walking in his footsteps, if they know it or not. Most of his best material comes from the 60s or 70s. Some of this later stuff was pretty good, some of it very classy, but much of it has been very dull, mediocre in fact. So, the girl I’ve never heard of and no one will remember in five years probably has a point. As far as the racism thing goes – that was pretty f***ed up, but there is more joy in heaven for one sinner who repents, etc…3 points
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If it helps calm things down, I’ll apologise for starting the thread, although I did say ‘maybe better if we didn’t mention comments about his racism’, naively expecting comments about his music. I’m happy if the thread is closed/locked, to prevent (further) unpleasantness. Malcolm3 points
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I'm not a professional, and adhere only to my own standards, be they good or bad. I'm not typing, here, as a Mod, but as a Forum member, so 'Yes, this is my 'power trip''. Carry on; you're doing well. Keep digging at me if you wish; I've thick skin.3 points
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Manufactured, repetitive, formulaic, unintelligible, whiny, american teen, guff, lyrics read like a teen twitter account. Not great fan of Clapton but he did/does have genuine musical talent.3 points
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I'll give you the Frog Chorus and much of his output after Wings but Silly Love Songs is a masterclass in pop song writing/arranging/production.3 points
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I thought it was just me. I mean, how can you question a so called guitar legend? My wife loves him. I find him extremely bland with a topping of vanilla.3 points
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That song needs a 10 minute guitar solo!3 points
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I honestly believe that the only sensible thing to do now would be to have yourself cloned, have your clone leave the house and go to the shop to buy chocolate biscuits while the real you cunningly sit in wait for the UPS driver to try and post his evil card.3 points
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This is one way to accrue some fame I guess. Not saying she's wrong, just saying she's insignificant.3 points
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Like the experimental Ripleys in Alien 43 points
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The matching headstock sets it off3 points
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Now - DON'T get too excited. This is far from finished. The initial coats of varnish are on the body, hardening before the flattening and final coats, and the basic neck shape is carved. But before doing that final varnishing, there is the all essential check and fit-and-function fettling. With a bass and solid guitar, this is usually all handled with tweaks to the hardware - but on an acoustic, pretty much everything is hardwired and so involve sanding, chiselling and sometimes drilling! So the best time to do that is before the final finish coat goes on. But in all other respects, it's a 'live' mockup. A sacrificial set of strings, a temporary bit of bone in the saddle slot, truss rod tensioned and tuned fully up to pitch at GDAD tuning: The great news is that is hasn't clapped hands in spite of the string tension! Things that need tweaking: - neck angle still not right. Not a surprise as now we are dealing with real wood under real tension rather than a line on a drawing. Action is too high at a 'normal' saddle height and so the neck angle needs increasing by more filing at the heel - the spacing of the bottom G pair of strings isn't quite right, allowing for the thickness of the strings, the gaps between each pair to the other pairs should be even and the lower G is about 1mm out. While irritating that my arithmetic clearly had a flaw, it's actually quite a straightforward fix and a lot easier - again - now we have actual strings in actual place and tension to meaure. Oh...and it sounds GREAT (OK...I admit that is based on a hunch of what a guitar bouzouki should sound like ) Best with headphones, but here's a quick clip: Pre-setup sound check -3 points
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