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@Andyjr1515 @BassToolI bought some decals from these guys and you guys were right - very pleased with them. This bass was finished a few weeks ago -here's the final photos. Time to finish the next project!!

Excessive tuners in Precision

Obligatory stood up on couch group shot.

I went to Manchester last night and loved it. It was incredibly moving; I wept at several points. The band have meant so, so much to me over the years. It was so sad to see Phil like that; he has always been one of my musical heroes, having first come to Genesis via And Then There Were Three. However he did his best with the singing given the circumstances and was very, very funny. He was like a Prog-pop Yoda! Unfortunately there was a delay at the start due to one of the generators failing, so they had to drop a couple of the older tunes due to timing issues which was disappointing, but I couldn’t fault the show, I thought it was fantastic. What was really nice was seeing the absolute love for the band - and Phil in particular, given his current circumstances - from the audience. Also, the amount of younger people singing and dancing along with even the oldest material and knowing all the words. It was doubly poignant for me given it’s a year this month since I lost my dad, who paid well over the odds to get me a ticket to see them locally in 1980 after the gig had sold out, because he knew they were my favourite band. And seeing the band in their autumn years, with my dad now gone, when that 1980 gig still seems like yesterday……😢

Great show so far.

Frets went in. Slots turned out to be ever so slightly too tight. I managed to sand them more spacious with lining up some sandpaper with feeler gauges. Tight fit, should stick in there firmly. I went a bit overboard and seeped in some CA glue, probably overkill. At first I hammered the ends and tried pressing in using my radius block. Was not really working, still needed hammering. Eventually I skipped the radius block and just hammered away, with a plastic tip hammer. Trimmed the ends and sanded a bewel to the edges using my sanding beam.

Bought some Mad strong glue a while ago to sort some toy for one of the kids. While waiting for the permanent fix, I thought I’d chance it. I reckon it will hold up. For a week. GHS boomers applied. Going to live with it as is - but currently investigating having the brass surrounds, bridge and knobs replated by a trumpet maker I know. And if memory serves from my experience with a 2024…the 1600 wins the acoustics test - it’s absolutely alive.

This’ll do 😜

There's gratitude for you!

I've decided to build my own cab - 2x 3" 15w 4Ω speakers I have lying around. I can't calculate the volume & port dimensions, so I'm scaling down my TE2103H cab Build diary to follow in a bit..

Aria pro II CSB-450. It's wonderful. The neck is the same thickness from the first fret to the 22nd fret, and it has this super aggressive sound and responds very well to a pick. I play this more than any of my other basses!

Some energy on that stage right there.

See the thread linked below. Recently a member has posted concerns about an apparently well set up bass being 'out of tune' when played near the nut or beyond the twelfth fret. I'm thinking the culprit may well be the new Korg Pitchblack Custom Strobe Tuner. This is 'accurate to 0.1 cent.' The ear is sensitive to tone differences of about 4-5 cents "the interval of one cent is too small to be perceived between successive notes." A typical tuner has a precision of 1 cent. 0.1 cent is 1/1000 of a tone (let's ignore the logarithmic nature as we are looking at tiny errors). That's a distance of about 1.5 thousandths of an inch at the first fret. To be accurate to 0.1 cent, the first fret would need to be placed to an accuracy of about 1.5% of its width. For the last fret, it would need to be placed with an accuracy of less than 0.5% of its width. Basses are generally made of wood not metal and working to such accuracy is almost impossible to achieve. Even the way someone frets a note can differ between players (or styles of playing) enough to shift the tone by a cent or more. Most strings drift by a cent from when they are struck to once the note has settled. I forecast two impacts of these new 'super accurate' tuners: People taking ages to tune up and never being satisfied because they drift out of tune after every song. More and more people reporting that they can't set up their instruments to be in tune all along the fretboard. It's a regular issue in engineering that nothing waste more time and effort than trying to work to an accuracy greater than is needed simply because the measuring equipment offers greater precision than the jobs requires. That's why the concept of 'tolerances' was developed, and I suspect we need to cultivate the concept of a tolerance of 'within one cent' as the gold standard when tuning and setting up instruments.

I've just properly set up my 424, the works, nut slots, neck relief, saddles etc, and have just spent a couple of hours playing it. It really does play like a dream now. I balanced the pickup heights to get everything even between pickups and across the board and I really like how the reverse P mod has turned out. Lovely warm, punchy top end. I plugged in a chorus pedal and played along with far too much Joy Division, it really does those melodic lines on the G string with the D string droning to a tee now. Which has upped my gas for a BBPH now. This mod was supposed to quash that need. 🙄😄

*mutters* Bloody Belgians! *brightly* This is specially for you! You're most welcome!

I refuse to use any system known as true temperance. Nothing wrong with a little refreshment taken in moderation, no matter how frequently.

Thanks for the links, I have purchased the sonic blue Mustang from them

I will drop a couple of 3" holes in a jiffy bag. Just pop a donation in "El Papa's Collection Box" 🙂

I used to take hi-fi seriously, but gradually lost interest with the development of the powdered-unicorn-horn-will-improve-the-sound mob got control in the mid 90s. The issue in the vinyl days was that good well set-up hi-fi was very good. That wasn't what most people had - most people had poor quality kit and the turntables were often the weakest part of the sound chain. I had a lot of problems with early digital - it was awful. The sound quality was horrible, early CDs were excruciatingly bad (I'm talking classical here was that was all I listened to back then). It was if all the knowledge and experience gained from Decca and BBC sound engineers in the 50s and 60s was chucked in the bin. The standard set for CD with its 44khz sampling rate was poor. It was the limit of what technology could do in the early 80s and it just wasn't good enough for decent hi-fi reproduction. Back then, I bought a Linn Sondek LP12 in 1983. Over the next few years I tried many CD players and none were as good as my LP12. Some of the issues were the dire recordings with the mikes on top of the instruments to get 'up real and close' "Hear every detail" marketing blurbs were all the rage. Recordings were often extremely bright. It was ghastly. Slowly, recording engineers re-learnt how to record and guess what - readopted the techniques of the 50s and 60s and the recording sounded better. I did buy CD players, purely because classical labels stopped making new LPs very quickly - about 1985 or 86 or so. It wasn't until I bought my Naim CD player in 1999 that I felt I had a CD player that gave me a sound that was as good as my LP12. I still have the LP12 and it was recently serviced and it still sounds very good. Yes, vinyl has many inherent limitations, but digital isn't de facto better just because it's digital. Digital ought to be better. Recordings have improved a lot since those early days and the technology has improved a lot as well. The advantage to the average consumer is that even a fairly cheap digital system will be much better than a cheap badly set-up analogue system. That is why CDs took off so quickly.

Would have sold poorly in the Southern US/Nashville I reckon 😁

The Fender Tolerance Bass. Leo missed a trick there.

What is this tuning you speak of? I assumed it is set at the factory for life. Next you will be telling me one has to change the strings too....?

(Apologies if this has been picked already...) Even if you're not a fan of his playing, Billy Sheehan is a hard guy to dislike. I love everything about this bass - from the grafted in mudbucker to the hotel room bodged repairs, via the almost falling to bits pickguard. It's stinky and roadworn and gorgeous. There's some nice footage of him playing and talking about it here:

Is September 24th 1991 the greatest day in music history? No. I have almost no interest in any of those bands or records.

Definately a Jaydee and definately the amazingly talented Yolanda Charles 😍😍

Sorry but I think your sentence ended rather abruptly. I am sure you were meant to say: "Motley Crue continue to be hugely embarrassing" 😉

Sounds warm like the 1024 did, but keeps the click and aggression of the 414. literally magic beans.

@ashis right Having decided I prefer Fender AVRIs I put all of my late 70’s precisions up on basschat for around £1500 each. No takers. In the end I sold them all to the Bass Gallery for just under that price. Martin then put them up at the Bass Gallery for around £2300 and I believe they have all now been sold I got what I wanted Martin made his profit

And she plays a mean cello too (not on a unicycle, obviously)

Candidate for the 'famous quotes thread' when taken out of context 🤣

Thanks both! If I'm short of stuff, then I'll shout out on here. Very kind 👌🏼

IMO the best looking of the bunch....

Same teebs, if you need anything and I’ve got it you can have it 👍

I remember forming band with a mate, and discussing the musical style. Grunge was the new thing at the time... we thought about going that route but decided against as we considered that grunge had peaked in popularity with "Superfuzz Bigmuff" and a few others - and was downhill from then on. Next thing we knew Nevermind exploded and took it to virtually mainstream popularity.

Hiya Teebs dude, 'owt you need from work , shout !, screws, plywood, I even have some or those metal cab corners doing now't at home, or an 'andle.

I am having some Scientist with my Saturday coffee

Just another list. There's too many of 'em. Rolling Stone magazine had one the other day of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time. Who cares? "We've spoken to hundreds of artists, journalists and leading figures from the industry to bring you...." Nah. I mean, well done for going to all that effort but you really shouldn't have bothered, none of these sodding greatest of all time lists ever includes 'Bikini Girls With Machine Guns' by The Cramps so to my mind are immediately suspect. However, if lists are your thing, here's my top 5 list of tracks from Nevermind! 🤪 Smells Like Teen Spirit On A Plain Come As You Are Territorial Pissings Drain You

I think by 'killed hair metal' I think they mean on TV, which was true. Not that I would consider Iron Maident, Metallica, Alice Cooper or Aerosmith as hair metal, I think they are reffering to poison, dokken and maybe even motley crue, although killed is a strange term as most of those bands are still going (in cases as dokken and Motley Crue, unfortunately).

Yup. Another one here with the HB Airborne Pro. I have gigged it and use it for practice every week. No issues whatsoever. It has 4 selectable channels, so even in the unlikely event of interference, you can just change to another channel. Well worth the money.

I've got the HB Airborne Pro and used it twice on gigs. First one was an open air festival and the second was a very busy seaside Pub beer garden with lots of phones being used, no issues at all, no drop out, no gliches, it performed very well for the £95 I paid for mine. Great bit of kit and very good value for money. No battery worries as the transmitter docks & charges during the breaks. There's another thread on here comparing the budget offerings.

Now that is how you do a snug fitting neck pocket! Very nice.

That's the one. It's great but to be honest I wouldn't buy the same one now (hence me being nonspecific) as it's 2.4ghz only. I haven't upgraded because I've never had a single dropout to be fair but 2.4 is filling up fast and I'd want 5ghz these days. The most devices I've ever used at the same time has been 4: a wired laptop, 2 tablets and a phone. It was rock solid. I'm a pretty big computer nerd anyway as it's my other hobby, so I knew Mikrotik had an amazing reputation. The other side to the coin is that mixing really isn't very taxing. The free router you got with your broadband can easily handle Netflix, video gaming and zoom calls all at once in a house with walls, what's a few commands (not even any actual audio) on a 5m^2 stage compared to that? It's actually baffling how they managed to get such a crappy router in the Behringer.

I'm currently working up the vox and bassline for The Boys Are Back In Town. Having said that, we've been offered a gig on the 6th November, so that's now taking a back seat to tightening up the set list and trying desperately to smooth out the octave jumps in Atomic... it's surprising and annoying how just one bloody bar can take up so much practice time. Even the bass solo isn't as hard as that wee bar steward...

The Behringer plus an external router will do everything you need and be under budget. The internal WiFi i is definitely patchy as a router but works ok as a client. Mine is wired to a router on gigs, and I switch to WiFi client when I'm at home. Mine lives in a 4u rack with a music player and a Mikrotik router, all 3 pieces of gear are amazing ime.