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  1. Hi folks A recent acquisition, imported from Germany last year. This bass is fantastic and has the lowest action I have ever encountered. The sound is like a 60s jazz bass but with a more even response thanks to the amazing 10/90 neck, which is rock solid and has the perfect amount of relief. The fretwork is fantastic and the attention to detail is as you'd expect from Vigier. The bass has a few marks and has been played a lot, but nothing that detracts from how awesome the bass clearly is. The edges of the neck have a few marks (nothing you can feel) and the body has a couple of marks too, but it's been loved and used, not neglected. I changed the original white pearl scratch plate for the black one which I had custom made (by TinyTone, with 'light' relic to match the body). When doing this I was interested to see the system Vigier use when they mount the pickups to the scratch plate rather than the body. There are lots of quirks which make this bass a really neat fresh approach to building a bass. Things such as countersunk threads for the strap pins, and the hum defeating system built into the bass (you can see the adjuster is accessed via a small hole on the scratch plate). I'll include the pearl plate and another darker pearl plate which was given to me kindly by a member of BC. One thing to note, the pickups are held to the scratch plate with a hex bolt and nut which is neat - they may have been over tightened in the past to make a couple of the 'ears' (not visible) to crack, and they have been repaired with some sort of epoxy compound which is 100% effective and obviously not visible. They're probably stronger than ever! The finish is really thin, and I think I read somewhere that Vigier perfected the use of a special process to allow this. You can see the grain of the wood through the finish in some lights. It's very tactile. WEIGHT - pretty light. No truss rod and specially sourced and aged French alder and maple add up to only 3.6kg The EQ is quite unusual too - you can read more here but essentially you only need to use it very sparingly, and in fact cutting can bring out the mids really nicely too, so everything form P thump and slap sizzle are on hand. In fact, this bass has the best front pickup P bass sound I have had in a jazz - and there's no noise because of the hum system. It's strung with brand new Elixir 40-95s, and I'll put the original metal knobs on if you prefer. It comes in a Thomann 'hard foam' style rectangular case. I have a box, so I could post, but I'd prefer to meet somewhere. I'm in York so fairly central and happy to travel a reasonable distance. So why am I selling? Well, frankly I've been playing two of my basses pretty much exclusively for the last year, and I'm having a bit of a clearout. I prefer the 70s spacing on a jazz style bass, and though it's nice to have a 60s style in the tool kit, I can't afford to have it around when I don't play it much. It deserves to be someone's no.1. I'll be selling a few other bits in the coming weeks. Any questions, let me know. This is a very low price for one of these, but less than I paid with import duty etc. Cheers ped
    16 points
  2. Selling a beautiful Fender precision in Aztec gold (American vintage series - 50's reissue) as I am not using it and I am upgrading my home studio. The bass sounds round and thick, it plays wonderfully and it feels great on the neck as the C shaped neck profile gives it very playable ergonomics. I bought it new less than two years ago and it left the house only a handful of times. It currently mounts labella flat-wounds and it was upgraded with a double D-tuner by Hip-shot and an Omega Bass bridge (identical to a Badass bridge). The original Fender license and the metal plates are included in its original hardshell case (so as the original tuner machine and its vintage bridge). The holes for the metal plates were done by professionals and it didn't affect the lacquer. Everything is shown in detail in the pictures. There are two minor scuffs on the body, the first one is noticeable on the side of the body (near the cutout) and the second one is a minuscule scuff at the back of the body. It is finished in Nitro so it is meant to "age" faster and the colour should start "cracking" in a couple of years, giving it a proper vintage look. I can add a proper wide strap if you want it and make the transition smooth 😃 Feel free to ask me anything about the instrument, I tried to add a lot of pictures. The bass that changed the world In the 1950s, Fender changed the course of music forever. Introducing the world’s first electric bass. The Precision Bass carries a voice that’s gone unchanged since its inception. And with the American Original, it’s easy to see why. From blues to pop and everything in between, the Pure Vintage pickup brings versatile, rounded tone to your playing. Built for authenticity, the single split coil boasts warm lows that are tight and articulate. Whether you’re up high or down low, every note will sing with crisp, clear resonance. And with a master tone pot onboard, you have simple yet effective control of your high end. Authentic playability You can’t beat the classics. But you can perfect them. The American Original delivers era-specific playability for the modern bassist. The Precision Bass is perfect for any style of player, from traditional jazz to contemporary pop. Riff with ease on a C shape neck, sculpted for enhanced hand positioning. The fretboard is flatter then its predecessor, lending to fast, comfortable playing at every fret position. All on a maple neck that proves resonant, sharp, and full of sustain. Recreated with precision Timeless design. Faithfully recreated. The American Original offers the same magic as its 1951 ancestor. From authentic hardware to a traditional body shape, Fender have managed every detail with accuracy. The results are obvious. Discover flawless tuning stability from a vintage-style saddle and open gear tuning machines. You’ll be playing in juke joints and speakeasies all night long. No problems. Just great performance. Full Specifications: Product: American Original '50s Precision Bass®, Maple Fingerboard, Aztec Gold Series: American Original Body Material: Alder Body Shape: Precision Body Finish: Gloss Nitrocellulose Lacquer Colour: Gold Neck & Fingerboard Neck Material: Maple Neck Finish: Gloss Nitrocellulose Lacquer Fingerboard Material: Maple Fingerboard Radius: 9.5" Fingerboard Inlays: Dots Number of Frets: 20 Fret Size: Vintage Tall String Nut: Bone Nut Width: 1.73" Hardware & Electronics Hardware Colour: Nickel/Chrome Tuning Machines: Pure Vintage Reverse Open-gear Bridge: 4-Saddle Vintage-Style Pickguard: 1-Ply Gold Anodized Aluminum Control Knobs: Knurled Flat-Top Pickup Configuration: S Pickups: Pure Vintage '58 Split Single-Coil Precision Bass® Controls: Master Volume, Master Tone Pickup Switching: None Miscellaneous Case: Hard Shell Case
    9 points
  3. Yeah, that’ll work great!
    8 points
  4. OVERWATER FRETLESS HYBRID J5 Beautiful 5-string fretless, by Overwater. Fantastic condition, I can only find one tiny ding on it, at the neck joint round the back (pic attached). 35" Scale Ash Body Walnut Facings on body and headstock Headstock is angled back, as per hybrid design 3-piece Maple Neck Ebony Lined Fretless Fingerboard (24 fret design) 18mm String spacing Bartolini CBJD57 Dual In-Line Humcancelling J-pickups John East Uni-Pre 4-knob Preamp All black Hardware Beautiful tone, this has all the 'mwaaah' you'll ever need! It's around 10lbs in weight Oval Hiscox Hard case included, also in great condition! I live just outside Guildford, but also work in Victoria, London should you want to try the bass. I could also record and upload some sound samples if you'd like to hear the bass. Thanks for looking!
    8 points
  5. Liking it so far. Really nice warm round sound. Considering putting flats on it. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
    8 points
  6. *** My courier coming Monday and happy to split costs within UK *** Ampeg SVT2 - Pro in great gigged condition. Comes with a very decent flight case. Tested and all working as it should. Sounds absolutely killer, the beautiful Ampeg sound can't be beaten imo. Selling as I accidentally have 2, obvs 🤦‍♂️ Collection welcome or UK postage only with my man with a van courier (£60 ish)
    6 points
  7. I love the worn pebbled body and neck of the Ibby SR's but... just want a plain passive P. So after years of going on about it, I decided to do something about. Ebay ad by Gear4Music for a SR300 with faulty electrics, Spares or Repair. Body/Neck/Bridge/Tuners Sorted... Pots Ordered and some Adagio Flats. Scratches on the body, with a few cracks. I was hoping this was just on the finish, but after a few hours of heat gun stripping (more to come tommorow...) shows some surface cracks. Hopefully all will be OK. Neck is OK, Sanded and Furniture Waxed the back, Polished the Frets and Cleaned and Lemon Oiled the fretboard. Got to sand off the headstock finish. Wish i weighed the Body before stripping! sealer or filler is real thick in places, and really taken hold of the mahogany, so a few digs, and some possibly already there and filled. Plan is get the pickup cavities filled, and re routed for the Single P with the extra EQ holes 'doweled' - Calling Basschaters! Finish is going to be plain wax, maybe a light coat of thinned Danish Oil if this will help with the surface cracks.
    5 points
  8. Hi everyone, decided to see if there's any interest in my 1988 Nt5 thumb bass. This is such an awesome bass, with that typical thumb growl. It has a very slim and playable neck. Has the original emg pickups with a 2 band eq. She's a heavy old girl at 11.3lbs. Everything works as it should, there is some wear to be expected with a 34 year old bass! It has some light surface scratches, some discolouration to the lower body edge, some paint wear to the bridge and the emg pickup logos have almost rubbed off. There is also what looks like some glue or insert near to the nut, I got this bass from the original owner who said it was like this from new. It is an amazing bass and none of the above detract from how it plays etc. Cash sale ideally, may take a part ex plus cash but would need to be a minimum of £1k cash. Comes with an old, fitted and very heavy flight case to keep it safe. Collection/meet up much preferred due to the value however could post at buyers cost/risk. Any more pictures or info feel free to ask, I've priced it fairly going on other similar basses I've found online (most of which are up for alot more!) . I'm happy to discuss price with any interested buyers. Thanks
    5 points
  9. Two classic p-bass finishes from the late seventies I've always admired were the black/black/maple(JJ Burnel) and the black/white/maple (Dee Dee Ramone). I don't usually mess with standard options on basses however a chance came up to do so recently and I decided to indulge my inner Dee Dee Ramone. Lots of folks go for black/black/maple Precisions but not so much the black/white/maple option. It's even less likely to come up on a leftie. I won't moan about lefties not having the same choice of P-bass finishes as righties ( we dont! 😁) so doing one for myself was fun. Saying that I really like the end result and haven't seen another leftie like it. It's all bog standard Fender MIM and plays as well as any P i've ever played.
    5 points
  10. 1967 Advert - "that is the Who with Rotosound strings!" 2023 Advert - "who is that with the Rotosound strings?"
    5 points
  11. After some eyeballing and measuring using my noted lengths per string, I reckon the units will be fine as per template, I'll have enough leeway to shift the saddles back enough to intonate, and ( tho prob unlikely,) a smidge forward if necessary, There's enough metal on the saddle carriers to file a small amount off too should that be called for. The cat asked his friend to come and have a look too, and demonstrate what could "accidentally" happen if, say, I was not forthcoming with the Dreamies...
    4 points
  12. What?? A tune by somebody other than The Residents!!?? Weird!! 😉😉
    4 points
  13. Dictatorship or democracy in the end it all comes down to personalities. Mostly it's been democratic and for the most part worked well, except for one band many moons ago, which in retrospect was funny but at the time was a bit wearing. Everyone had an equal say but we all hated each other. Everyone would threaten to quit each week but the sum of the parts sounded so good no one would follow through with the threat. On one occasion we had a new manager and we all decided to meet up in the pub to discuss future plans. Always sounds a good idea to meet up in a pub, but alcohol, discussion, and this band were never a great mix. It soon descended into a slagging match, followed throwing beer mats at each other, then someone launching themselves across the table and knocking the beers over, followed by getting chucked out by the landlord. The new manager said, well I suppose that's the end of the band then, to which I replied, of course not it's like that every week, at which point the manager quit on the spot! Ah, fun times.
    4 points
  14. Not at all - I am enjoying it hugely! And, if I get a bonus point for every Like and Reply, at this rate, I will be a Bass Chat High Master and General Big Cheese on this forum, in spite of not even knowing the difference between a good-looking model and a bassist.
    4 points
  15. Turned out to be a Schecter Raiden Deluxe 4, whatever that is worth. Daughter said she loved the neck and weight. Owner was an instructor for a few instruments. The bass was set up very well, new strings, in tune, intonation already set. She loves it. Thank you for the responses, it was a big help.
    4 points
  16. 90’s Japan reissue body. 2017 Mexico Block and bound neck Hipshot Lollipops. affectionately known as the Geddy P. born today on my kitchen table.
    4 points
  17. NEW PRICE: £950 For sale, this fantastic Fender Jazz Bass V “Hybrid”, limited series made in Japan in 2019, in Sherwood Green. They call it “hybrid” for some obscure marketing reasons, apparently a mix of vintage and modern features, but to be fair it’s just a good Jazz Bass V that plays and sounds great. Specs are classic: alder body in a lovely Sherwood Green finish, maple neck with satin finish, rosewood fretboard. Pickups are Fender Jazz single coils, and the bass is passive. Bridge is the HMV model and tuners are Fender light ones. It comes with two pickguards: original mint and black. Some photos are from the shop I bought it from, I can take more if you want. Building quality is great as you would expect from Fender Japan. It’s up there with USA Fenders, with a better quality control… It is very rare on this side of the world, as it was only available on the japanese market. It’s in very good condition, except for a few marks on the back of the body but nothing too bad (photos possible). Overall it’s a great bass and I’m only selling as I can’t justify a 5 string at the moment. It comes with a gigbag. I can ship in the UK for £50, or we can arrange a collection in Edinburgh and its surroundings. I’m selling it for £1150. Any questions let me know. Cheers. PS: the radiator was OFF when I took the photo. I’d never lean a bass against a hot radiator.
    3 points
  18. Saw a band last week and my bass nerd spider senses immediately spied....an old 80s Aria pointy bass standing proud on its stand... A few things struck me as, ooh. First was that this was a smooth 'n slow 1-4-5 roots' n 5ths country band, consisting of 3 pensioners looking like a Victor Meldrew tribute act....and there's me thinking the band player would have more slap (pun intended) and PVC than a Kiss member. Second, that I haven't seen a pointy bass played in anger since the last time...well never come to think of it? Thirdly, that my 11 year daughter thought it was the coolest bass in captivity and, far more attention getting than her her pink 'n maple P. The band were a great bunch of guys, not brilliant players but, importantly, funny as f*ck, non stop ripping the fosters out of each other and the audience so, fantastic fun....and unusual for a country band, not one dead dog was mentioned. 'Victor Pointy Bass' used the headstock on a few occasions, to dig the singer in the ribs when the singer played a bum note on his harmonica, which seemed a plus, erm point, over my ohh so soft J and P. Just as observation and, I cant see them ever being desirable, collectable or making money, but then I thought that about the Ford Crappi, Vauxhall Cavpig and Austin Ambassador, Sony Walkman, old Synths, Hygena furniture, mullets (well maybe not) so what do I know? (Similar to this puppy.)
    3 points
  19. I fancy a Limelight. Reports are they sound great, feel nice in the hand, and you don't need to be precious with them as a few knocks and bangs only adds to the character. Problem is I've spent 3 grand on Ricky and Sire basses in the last few months and even the easy going Mrs Bassfinger might raise an eyebrow were I to spend more. So, it's time to see if I can make my own version of a Limelight, making it cheap while making it also good and convincing. A tall order. So, today I've been raiding Barn Of S***e looking for the parts I need. As is the case with many of you chaps, when one upgrades a bass one ends up with the original parts as leftovers, and in my case I have many basses worth of such spares. I also have a few bodies and necks from previous projects where I've chopped and changed or upgraded them over the years, and after rummaging came up with... A precision neck. Maple, rosewood fretboard. Not sure where this one came from but I suspect it was Chinese in origin. I do recall giving it a minor fret dress in its previous installation and it being a decent player. A jazz and a precision body. Both Ash I believe. The precision is unpainted, bar a thin poly clear coat, and that better suits my plans. Warman precision pickups in white. Several precision pickguards. A pearl one looks the best fit on this body. An assortment of neck plates, including an ebay "Fender" item. Squier Classic vibe tuners, string tree and bridge, all in nickel. Even better for my purposes they've corroded a little where the barn is a touch damp, and that suits my needs. Tired looking pup cover, that I may or may not use. And I'm sorted for strings, various control knobs, etc. Rummaging though my paint box I've found a can of Rustoleum blue spray which is a fairly close finish for daphne blue, originally intended for sprucing up the cast iron ends of a garden bench. Also some reds and greens from my lawn mower restoring, but the blue would go best with the pickguard methinks. Even better, it's a satin finish. Nitro would be better as the aged finish is easier to achieve, but that means more spending, so the Rustoleum. Fortunately I reckon I can age the satin finish quite convincingly. So that's everything I need, except for pickguard screws and pots. I've order a set of the former, in a slightly dull stainless rather than shiny chrome, and CTS are supplying the pots. So I shall start work this week and titillate you with pictures as it progresses.
    3 points
  20. Hi all, The band I am in, The Tim Shez Band, today has released our debut EP, 'Everything We Thought We Knew'. It contains 5 tracks and I play fretless on all 5 tracks. The style is acoustic singer songwriter with Tim playing acoustic, singing and some keys, Ben of drums and percussion but only using brushes, hotrods and beaters and myself on fretless. It's very chilled, emotional and intimate It's available on all the major sites to download and stream so if anyone fancies a listen then the links are below. Enjoy and thanks for listening Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/album/7nly6357ijxjLMoCRjT00s... Apple Music/iTunes - https://music.apple.com/.../everything-we.../1649581768 Amazon Music - https://music.amazon.co.uk/albums/B0BJ19Z3QN... Fall Tide Seconds Away Strangers I Miss You
    3 points
  21. 3 points
  22. When they first came out, they were generally referred to as droopy headstocks. If there's no point on the body, it's pointless.
    3 points
  23. I saw an X-ray of a girl passing gas - Butthole Surfers. Double whammy!
    3 points
  24. 3 points
  25. Our Lips Arsé Healed - Fun Boy Three / Go-Gos
    3 points
  26. My Precisions My current band does punk covers so a P bass and pick is what is needed. I alternate between these three. The red one is a Mexican standard with an EMG Geezer Butler split coil. Sounds lush The blue and gold is one of the recent Squier 40th anniversary gold editions. The metallic blue PJ on the right is a Charvel pro-Mod with a John East pre amp. The Charvel PJ feels nicest in my hands, the neck is more jazz bass sized and it has rolled edges and a satin finish on the back. The red MIM probably sounds the best but all three are great and I'm keeping them all.
    3 points
  27. https://www.cashconverters.co.uk/shop/music-tv--video/musical-instruments/guitars--string-instruments/electric-guitar/039700159141 I hope he takes it easy
    3 points
  28. 3 points
  29. Aren't all basses just another wheeze to relieve us of our hard-earned?
    3 points
  30. Picture of my 2014 Precision. I think Fender got it very right with this series.
    3 points
  31. I'm the same as you. I love the phaser but haven't been able to find an appropriate place to use it in the setlists I'm playing. However, I've been experimenting with a very subtle 'always on' phase sound recently - the intention is to use it on songs where I would default to chorus. Sounds good (to me) in isolation but I have yet to unleash it on the band sound. I watched a YT video a while back where delay was used to thicken the sound during the guitar solo in a three piece - I dep in a three piece occasionally so that's something else I'll be working on.
    3 points
  32. Probably not. Most bassists that go direct to FoH will not use cab simulation, but once you start adding distortion a lot of players prefer to have a cabinet somewhere in the chain. It's highly doubtful that the sound engineer would have added it for you, although he may have added some EQ and/or HPF/LPF to achieve some of that same filtering Distortion without cabinet simulation (or a real cab, of course) sounds really harsh, and to most ears pretty unpleasant, which is why cab simulation is becoming more and more common on direct signals now.
    3 points
  33. Quest Atak 1b Bass made at the the legendary Matsumoku factory Japan in 1985, very rare to find in the UK. Good condition, punchy pickups and comfortable to play with a slim smooth neck with nice low action. Neck and frets are in excellent condition, a few love bites to the back of the body giving a slightly roadworn mojo, electrics all working good, comes with a padded gig bag, trades considered, can post for an additional £20.
    3 points
  34. These are my only 2 basses now… Both American Pro Precisions and both with Nordstrand pickups.
    3 points
  35. I’ve always loved the Rickenbacker vibe and was fortunate enough to be able to scratch the itch and buy one back in 2021. I’ve joined the odd Ricky Facebook group and whatnot, noodled about with Rufus (I called it Rufus. Please don’t think less of me) and have come to realise that this bass is basically a Harley Davidson. It looks iconic and sounds iconic, owners absolutely love it but in the cold light of day the build quality is actually pretty rough and you’d probably be better off with a Yamaha.
    2 points
  36. Just received this fresh Thumpinator v2 in black 🖤 I guess not strictly a pedal. Just need to decide where to place it now. My current signal chain is: Bass Tuner Longsword Model FeT Hyper Luminal GK Fusion S 800 The obvious choice is between the Tuner and Longsword but then again the Longsword does seem to sound ever so slightly better with a hi-z input so perhaps after? I'd try it out now but I'm on child duty, how are people using theirs?
    2 points
  37. Mine is last before the amp with my octave just in front. That way the thump kills all the subsonic crap from the octave. I stole that idea from Dusty Hill. He had a subtle always on octave to thicken his sound up and the thump stopped anything below a low A getting through. So he didn’t have to turn it off. this is basically my chain. For today anyway!
    2 points
  38. That is literally my dream rig - SVT II Pro through a Barefaced 610 🤤
    2 points
  39. I have a good selection of pointies. I have four BC Rich warlocks - One black with a 4 in line headstock, Two with the reverse headstock (one red crackle, and one ultraviolet) amd an '84 ish white one with the 2+2 paddle headstock. A Mockingbird plus with spalted finish An Ironbird that used to belong to @Cosmo Valdemar These mainly get used for shows with Thunderstick. Then there are the Deans - A Razorback (that's on it's way to a prospective buyer atm ) A demonator neckthru model, as well as a MM demonator An MM ML bass. I've also got an Epi Thunderbird, a guild Jetstar and a Kramer baretta bass with a reverse hockey stick type headstock. I also have a BC Rich Bich guitar as well lol
    2 points
  40. What's wrong with the old one? Can't be too bad if it is nearly new.
    2 points
  41. Hang On In There Baby - Johnny Bristol
    2 points
  42. These bridges (humorously referred to as BBOT - bent bit of tin) are all going to be interchangeable - Allparts would be on a hiding to nothing making something that wouldn't fit. If you want to stick with this style of bridge, it would honestly be worthwhile putting a request for one in the wanted section; there's loads here that have swapped these out for different ones and have their old bridges sitting unloved in their parts boxes. Hell, if I have a spare one, I'd send it to you just to be shot of it!
    2 points
  43. 2 points
  44. That's quite poor, none of the usual sites (All music, Discogs) have any additional muso credits. Al Jackson Jr and Booker T have producer credits, so I ' d guess it was Al on drums, Booker T on keys and Donald Duck Dunn on bass. They were the house band on a lot of Stax recordings.
    2 points
  45. Going by the catalogues from the era, I think the 'Special "Feature" colors' weren't necessarily the ones that commanded an upcharge. Take the 1990 catalogue, for example: 3 Tone Vintage Sunburst, Translucent White and Butterscotch Ash are listed as available at an additional charge, whereas the Special Feature Colors - like Peach - generally weren't named. It's not clear whether they cost extra. (1990 is a bit late for Peach though, 1989 might have been the last year that colour was available.) This is a page from the 1990 catalogue:
    2 points
  46. I’ve been using 1-2-4 fingering on a 34 inch scale for about a week, just simple exercises a few minutes each day to try and get my muscle memory sorted. So far: I’m finding my pinkie gets tired quite quickly, but the pain/cramping in the back of my fretting hand has not revisited. For simple ascending, descending semitone runs and simple riffs, I’m starting to find the new fingering is bedding in, for scales I’m nowhere near as fast or fluid (which was not very fast or fluid to start with!) as with OFPF … partly as my ring finger keeps wanting to get involved and partly the increased position shifts required. Overall I feel it is an approach that will work for me and that in the not too distant future, these issues will reduce and allow me to comfortably play the two long scale basses I have. I’ve not yet tried switching to OFPF when I play higher frets as it is likely to confuse my wee brain just now! In other news I’ve managed to locate one of the GSRM25 sub short scale 5 stringers I’ve been looking for, hopefully it will arrive Thursday … it will be interesting to see how I get on with it being ultra light and with a 28.6 inch scale length. S’manth x
    2 points
  47. V. small bit of progress, I did a basic trim of the post execution headstump my idea always being to trim it right up to the metal block, so a bit of filing and sanding ( dead flat bit of wood with abrasive cloth glued to it) took it to the basic rough shape. I will be wanting to radius the corners a bit so it doesn't look so abrupt, I need to be careful not to take too much off as this lump has the mounting screws for the block going in a fair way, I don't wish to suddenly come up against a screw, and need to leave sufficient meat to provide a solid platform for the block. I may just leave it like this temporarily and do a cosmetic shaping later.
    2 points
  48. Choppity chop... (OK I didn't really use an axe, but only slightly more sophisticated, it was one of Spear and Jacksons finest.)
    2 points
  49. Naturally whenever you attempt anything needing a bit of concentration, a cat rolls up and gets right in the way.. .."if you give me some Dreamies, I'll maybe leave you alone for a bit..Deal ? "
    2 points
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