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[quote name='bluejay' timestamp='1331208723' post='1569366'] I think I've seen a couple of second hand instruments (advertised as such) for sale at a stand this year. Can't remember which stand though. [/quote] [quote name='ped' timestamp='1331208995' post='1569375'] Yeah I think I did too, come to think of it. [/quote]Wasn't that Bass Gear?

[quote name='Fat Rich' timestamp='1331037964' post='1566610'] Was that the Enfield basses on the Sims stand? [url="http://www.enfieldguitars.com/"]http://www.enfieldguitars.com/[/url] [/quote]That's the ones

I forgot to go back to the stand in the far corner with the basses with enormous PUPs and loads of switches (for quick changers in sound P->Rick if I overheard sort of correctly). Anyone got anymore dets on that at all?

[quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1331037213' post='1566597'] we didn't have laptops back in those days I'm afraid circa late 80's / early 90's. You youngsters are lucky to have this modern technology Dave [/quote][u][i][b][size=5]Youngsters!?[/size][/b][/i][/u] In heart possibly but sadly not in body, being a few months older than you

[quote name='seashell' timestamp='1331023271' post='1566288'] Aw, you should have said something. Was that you sitting to my left (actually come to think of it it must have been, because there was a woman sitting to my right! ). Also got into random conversations with a couple of people who admired my bag (it's got 'E-A-D-G, Right?' on it). [/quote]Ah yes, twas you . Hey ho. Next year perhaps

Just been noodling along to a bit of Rufus & Chaka Khan, which was fun and different for me

[quote name='jamesbass116' timestamp='1330811489' post='1563428'] I bought a clever little string mute by gruvgear. [/quote]Looked at one of those & passed in the end. Be interesting to hear how they are Picked up a copy of Stuart Clayton's Solo Bass book, which I fear will keep me going forever [quote name='jamesbass116' timestamp='1330811489' post='1563428'] Really wanted to get an Overwater bass though... Shame I was about £1000 too short haha [/quote]eeeeeeeeeeer nearly All I can say is they ganged up on me at the end of the show. Yes the bloke in the Sh1teShirt having a pincer movement operated on him at around 17:00 was me Strings are a bit light for my liking - 38:98 I think they said when I tend to run with 45:105 but to change them too soon would be to waste a set up by Chris May, so I'll probably live with that til they need changing. And as I must keep reiterating whenever they are posted somewhere MrsW can see it (and I know it has been stored for a row in the future) "IT WAS A BARGAIN SWEETIE.....HONEST!!"

[quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1330966268' post='1565496'] Yep agree - TIME is a fantastic track to cover. Did it in a 3 piece band yrs ago. Simmons drums and guitar synth. The bass pedal intro was the hardest part to copy although our drummer also had a sampler system that allowed him to copy the clocks and the chimes along with the bass pedal part. All very technical for a mere bassist like me who just played bass - I absolutely loved playing this song although i preferred playing the bass part from delicate sound of thunder version. Dave [/quote]copying the chimes as samples and triggering them from the pedals had been one of my options, but that would have meant even more gear in my "corner" with a laptop to run it from as well as the synth unit. At which point I would run screaming from the room. Not incredibly difficult, as mentioned in the OP, but the sum of the parts does make it epic

Yes it was noisy - I really couldn't hear what the P on the JHS/Vantage sounded like - and it is possibly a bit light on stands, but that said I left home at 07:45 to get there for around 10:00 and stayed 'til the bitter end avoiding the noise with my plugs, but more so by going to the various clinics. As before I enjoyed the day, though my gear lapse at the end of the day whilst it got through the door at home with only a minor comment, I KNOW has been stored to be hurled ina row in the future

LOUD. Rather more expensive than intended, but fun. Went to the TM Stevens & Neil Murray Masterclasses. Interesting to hear the points of view & good to see Funkle T talking in such a positive light to the youngsters. Yolande Charles (meant to get a CD but got tied up in other stuff and missed out) and Doug Wimbish put on good shows in the main hall. Met a few BC faces of old, added a few more and had a good chat with a few more, and missed even more. ...and finally following a sustained two pronged attack on the Overwater stand late in the day came away with a pretty good deal on an Overwater by Tanglewood Classic Jazz. Hadn't intended to do more than look today, but my will was finally broken and another bass entered the stable. After working in ways to smuggle it in on the train on the way home, none of which would have held any water, I just brazened it out

[quote name='Rainbass' timestamp='1330848696' post='1563623'] - GK MB112 is light enough to carry all the way from the Show to the Mulit-Story Car Park out back (had to get up early today to smuggle it into the house :-) [/quote]I ended up brazening mine out having had a two pronged sales attack on the Overwater stand (not an expensive one I hasten to add and tonights eBay & the last couple of nights gigs cover it - just) Chatted to a few BC'ers, missed a few more one the way (Seashell I think I may have been sat next to you at Neil Murray;'s masterclass but am a shy retiring flower) and kept almost getting a word with Dood but not quite, then Doug Wimbish rean over and it was too late. Ah well, there's always next year

ACS plugs out and ready. Just deciding on whether to go for the Sh1teShirt I ironed them both this afternoon so it would be a shame to waste that hard work....just don't inspect my handiwork to well if I do, 'cos I'd have probably been better jut taking it out of the ironing basket tomorrow frankly Anyhoo, got to be up at 7 for the train so enouugh of this nonsense. Might see some tomorrow (make that later today)

[quote name='Lenny B' timestamp='1330798397' post='1563219'] Well they nicked it from Floyd - that's what they did on the recording [/quote][quote name='Oopsdabassist' timestamp='1330802968' post='1563284'] Yup Saw Waters doing it in Hyde park a coupla years back on his solo tour. Gooood gig, got some REALLY dodgy video of me and me mates singing along to Wisha somewhere [/quote]Well there you go. Never too young to learn. Much discussion about CD's & MiniDisc players to cover it, then I came upon the [i]correct[/i] answer by chance

[quote name='lxxwj' timestamp='1330781891' post='1562918'] Intro to Time on a bass? This I need to see. Videos please! [/quote]We'll see how they come out Friday.........oh wait do you mean the clocks all going BONG!? No, I'm just doing the tick tock that follows. Nicked the idea off the BP in a Floyd trib band I saw a couple of weeks back

Right. I think I may have to iron a Sh1teShirt for identification purposes Todays task before the gig. Pick up the booked train ticket and get a parking ticket for the station car park

Was working through Time for the gig next week last Sat morning ([url="https://www.facebook.com/events/209959032374317/"]Epsilon @ Holbrook Club Horsham[/url] if you're interested BTW) and when we finished the drummer said something along the lines of "that Nick Mason's a lazy ****er. Only plays kick & snare in places" which the keys followed with "Rick Wright's not doing a great deal" to which I added "...and most of the time the bass is playing one note/bar" (at least on the songs we are covering) [u][b]HOWEVER[/b][/u] I should add that all agreed that be that the sum of the parts was still huge. Got to enjoy a bit of Pink Floyd....and I do both listening & playing. Most taxing bit for me on Time is the intro where I'm being the clock on the bass and playing the bass on the bass pedals

Do you think I may have tooooo much free time? Made a BC laminate but rather doubt I shall have the gall to actually wear it particularly after I sold the MB for a GB recently

Well I think I've "followed" a couple of people on Twitter (@AlanWebb) but whether I shall manage to work out how the hell to use if or get it to work in the Blackberry on Sunday is QUITE another matter!!

[quote name='jamesbass116' timestamp='1330604548' post='1560114'] I'll be a wanderer on saturday. I'm not actually a muppet unlike my avatar suggests so it might be a bit harder to spot me! [/quote]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WWWTW1P8rQ

.....and so in a potentially happy tun of events we have an update from tonights r/h ent along and to the Orange Crush25 (plus the main rig but left that in the car). Took it in and said "here's the new rig then" Surprisingly for quietish r/h's it will actually suffice. ANYWAY. Working through a load of new songs, including a Foo's cover that is fairly dense on the guitar front. Played through it a couple of times, listened to live and studio versions and worked on it a bit more, then the vocalist says it was missing someting and the discussion was over which of the three guitar parts our two guitarists should be following. One was obvious as the riff, but the other that was what was really needed, was for held chords. That led me to finally pluck up the courage to say something about tone settings. Stupid really that I mither about these things, but I am a great one for avoiding confrontation despite having know an played with these guys nearly half my life (more in the case of the drummer). So there was some harrumphing from the drummer about levels at gigs at times but I am pleased to say that the other guitarist backed me in the discussions re sonic space and the fact that a fair bit of the loud bass blame being hurled my was quite possibly not all me. So we went round it looking at ways of re EQing the guitar referred to in the OP and the intention is to set up a full gear r/h and work through settings. The two guitarists already spend plenty of time making sure they are playing complimentary lines and not just chugging the same thing together, so hopefully if we can get he full r/h sorted we can find a way through. Felt a bit awkward at times with 'tother guitarist backing my corner as it was a little like ganging up, but the comments were taken on board so we shall see. Onwards & upwards

Must remember to get my plugs out of the gig bag Saturday night after the gig.......and not fall asleep for my change @ Clapham Junction Sunday morning!

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1330441667' post='1557517'] If you get the foundation right then it becomes easier to lay the textures on top. Guitar can lose a lot of low end assumingthe rest of the band are supllying it (ie bass, keys) and in the context of the mix not sound remotely weak. [/quote] I seem to recall #2 son saying that when he was doing a sound production course the tutors had suggested a High Pass on guitars set at up to 1k would not leave them weedy, but give the space for everything to fit in, and IIRC when I tried that with some multitrack it did seem to be the case [quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1330442348' post='1557531'] Thing is you cant cut through a hole that isnt there. If there is no hole you wont cut through it, you will compete in that area and thats when things become messy, which defeats the object.... [/quote]...which was really where my "Cutting through the mix" rant started, and as above what I really meant by that is what Beedster is referring to as "sitting in the mix". I just want my bit of the sonic spectrum to use and not have to EQ with effectively a sad face to stop mix mush

Just back from the lunchtime wander and had to chuckle when I picked up Bass Player mag and was flicking through while waiting for a till to be free, to seethe final article in the mag was The Grooveyard reprinting an article from 1993 called .........."[b]Defend Your Sonic Space[/b]" That was actually more bemoaning live sound engineers for goiung for a monster kick sound at the expense of bass.

[quote name='Dave Tipping' timestamp='1330385682' post='1556783'] My definition of cutting through would be.. being heard in the mix. i.e. not muddy and lost. It does ultimately boil down to the sound you are trying to create or replicate though. [/quote]This, or at least it was what I was getting at

Chris "Cutting through" in the context of what I was really getting at is actually a misnomer. I don't do solo's What I really meant/want is MY fundamental bit of the frequency range not cluttered with loads of guitar bottom end that ultimately means I feel the bass often gets completely lost in the mix whereas if a certain person cut his full on bass boost and pushed his mids a bit more I think we would all end up with our defined bands and a better overall mix. (I'm starting to sound like a harping old moaning Minnie aren't I ) For the sort of classic rock we do in the band in question I tend to feel that the rythmn section needs to drive things along and the guitars can flash along over the top of that all they like, but if the bass is getting swamped out by guitar mush and lost in the mix the energy of the song gets lost