markstuk

maybe ask sheldon via the Dingwall website forum?

I hope there are no stairs involved tomorrow :-) I've just loaded the car excluding basses and it's going to be tight :-)

[color=#282828] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Updated: List of for sale items what a good idea[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]01. [/font]Drawmer LX20 stereo rack compressor limiter expander - £55 (jhk). [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]02. Trace Elliott AH300 head - £120 o.n.o. (silverfoxnik)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]03.[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]04 [/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]05. Allparts Jazz 70's in off-white with maple board/blocks, Wizard pickups & Gotoh bridge (Cetera)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]06. DeArmond (Guild) Pilot Active Bass (Cetera)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]07. Warwick Corvette, 2004, Active with mojo. £400 (Grangur) [/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]08. [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Harvest Leather Strap (Brown Cow Antique - 118 - 127cm). £20 (Wolverinebass)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]09. [/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Line 6 Sonic Port Interface for iPad/iPhone/iPod (obbm)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]10. Knackered blue plastic case containing non-knackered amp leads, guitar leads, a patch lead, and a speakon lead (MacDaddy)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]11. Warwick Rockbass Streamer Standard 5 String[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]12. Fender Jimmie Vaughan Tex Mex Stratocaster, White with Maple neck and Fender gigbag - £550 o.n.o. (noisyjon)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]13. Ibanez SR740 - Upgraded £325, Babicz FCH 4 String Bridge, Chrome (Grangur)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]14. EBS Multicomp, EBS Bass IQ, Ashdown Lomenzo Hyperdrive, Gigrig Generator, Distributor and accessories, Diago Gigman pedalboard (Graham)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]15. MXR Custom Comp CSP202 - £45 (JapanAxe)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]16. Status S1 5 string headed, funny post box colour! Price? Dunno yet![/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]17. Epiphone Dot Studio (w/mods). Discontinued black, with black hardware and cream binding. Very clean. Hardcase, long throw bridge, Sperzel locking machines, Wilkinson zebra humbucker in the bridge position, Dunlop Straploks, strap. £225.00 for the lot. If no interest, I'll take it home.[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]18. Sandberg vm £650 ish or trade for what have you cash either way as appropriate[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]19. BASS BASH SPECIAL PRICE! £275 MTD Kingston Heir 4 string bass. Passive J-H pickups rosewood board maple neck[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]20. Ibanez ARTB100 short scale arch top bass £200 (if Merton makes it!)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]21. Eden metro 2 x 10 combo £375 (jhk)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]22. Eden 2x 10 XLT cab £230 (jhk)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]23. Peavey 112 special combo £69 (jhk)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]24. FENDER JAZZ BASS USA 1998 - Colour: Aqua Marine. Maple neck and board. Fender case and case candy (incl. key, truss rod spanner, etc.). Very small dink on back of the neck, otherwise in exc. cond. (currently on FB for[/font][color=#B22222][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][b]£750 ono[/b][/font][/color][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] but for Bass Bashers [u][b]£650 ono[/b][/u]) (Stingray5)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]25. TRIBAL PLANET GX40-AA GIGBAG CASE (for ACOUSTIC BASS GUITAR) - Large and seriously well-built gigbag/case. Great for touring. Built-in lean-stand for stage and airport halls. Lighter than full flight cases. As new. £35. (Stingray5)[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]26. ARIA AMB-50 ELECTRO-ACOUSTIC BASS GUITAR - Fretted. Gig bag. Strap. Trace Elliot Phosphor-Bronze acoustic strings fitted (40-60-80-100) plus new spare set included. Exc. cond. £100 (Stingray5)[/font][/color][list] [*][url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?app=forums&module=post&section=post&do=reply_post&f=77&t=283248&qpid=3139153"]Quote[/url] [*][url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?app=forums&module=post&section=post&do=reply_post&f=77&t=283248&qpid=3139153"]MultiQuote[/url] [/list]

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]01. Hamster - Tea, coffee, pastries etc. Might also bring my Parker Fly 5 and Gibson EB5, maybe my SVT-2 Pro and Barefaced Big Twin II[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]02. Silverfoxnik - BC Rich Eagle, Hayman 4040, Ander Vanderend JB5, Ampeg Trace Elliott AH300 & SWR Triad (for use in the Jam Room) and maybe my Ampeg rig if I've got room in the car, i.e.. V4BH amp & 115 Classic cab[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]03. [s]TheGreek - not sure what I'm bringing yet..[/s].[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]04. Happy Jack - I'll be there with a love that will see you through[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]05. JapanAxe - probably everything in my signature. Orange Valve Tester - get your tubes tested for free![/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]06. Macdaddy.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]07. obbm - Sadowsky UV70 &amp; HPJ, Mesa Prodigy, D800 &amp; Bottle Rocket, Berg CN112 + a few cables[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]08. Billy Apple. Spectors, Marshall valves and EAD[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]09. Nancy Johnson; Thunderbirds/Whatever amps I'm running.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]10. TrevorR - Wal MK 1 Custom, Wal Pro IIE (well, I had to...!), Ariapro2 SB700, Markbass LM2 and Traveler 2x10 and 1x15[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]11. Bluejay - cameras, video equipment; no basses, unless someone asks to see a specific model. I will also be there as BGM's reporter[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]12. NickD - Maruszczyck Elwood L5A, TE Series 6 1x15 Combo, Zoom B3.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]13. Rumblefish - Rumblefish Bass,Fender Roadworn Jazz, Acoustic 370 amp,Acoustic 1x15 cab.Copy of Herbie Flowers single.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]14. Bottle - the usual: Ibanez bass, 1x12 Cab, 1x10 Combo, Pedals[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]15. alexclaber - Barefaced things and a RIM Custom 5 and maybe an old Warwick Streamer[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]16. Ordep - Fbass, Zon, amp, pedals etc[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]17. moooper-Warwicks,Sei Flamboyant 6,Genzler Amp,Eden maybe[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]18. chimike[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]19. [s]Sibob (tentative) - '71 Precision, Xotic XJ-1T 5, '83 Squire JV Jazz. If I'm gigging, my Markbass/Barefaced rig [/s][/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]20. timmo - Clover Avenger, PJB Bighead[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]21. louisthebass[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]22. Graham - G&amp;L Tribute L2500, USA SB2, GK MB500, EBS Neo 2x12, can bring an EBS HD350 too if anyone's interested (<--- YES PLEASE! - ChunkyMunky).[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]23. sockdeluxe_mikey - Custom Shop Fender Jazz Bass, pedal board with goodies on it, Markbass/Barefaced[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]24.WalMan - PB1680 well it would be rude not to [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] Probably 2 x US L2500, Gen3 BigBaby2 &amp;amp; Tonehammer 350 as they'll be going straight out in the evening[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]25. Cetera - Wal Mk1 Geddy Lee &amp;amp; fretless, Spector NS2, Spector Euro, Hamer Impact, Yamaha BB3000, GK800RB, GenzBenz Neox212, Pedalboard[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]26. Grangur - I'll bring some Warwicks (see sig) and a One10 &amp;amp; LM3[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]27. Stingray5 - Tune Basses: TWB-6 and SWV-4. SWR WorkingPro12 combo. BOSS GT-6B.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]28. Jabba_the_gut - Not sure yet.....but something home made[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]29. zero9 - Strata + 4 x PJB cabs + Acoustic Image amp[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]30. Barneyg42- Status s2 5-string headless + Markbass LM3 + Schroeder 212pl and possibly my old post office red series 1 Status 5.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]31. EssentialTension - Lakland Decade, Peerless Retromatic B2, Takamine B10 (probably for sale if not sold by then), Mesa Walkabout Scout.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]32. Churchie - Retrovibe Vantage, Ashdown ABM amp, Ashdown 210 &amp;115, various pedals[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]33. ChunkyMunky - Musicman Bongo 5HH, Yamaha TRB5ii fretless, Genz Benz Shuttle 12.0 (maybe a Barefaced Big Baby I, if I can get it up there).[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]34. Andy - Wal JG Custom, Wal mk1, Sandberg Electra TT4 (incredible bass for the money!), Phil Jones Briefcase 150w or Markbass 2*10 l[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]35. Markstuk - Active Dingwall ABZ and Z3, Cort A5, RH750, Tecamp 810, Barefaced S12T with a mesa prodigy four:88 (if i've still got)[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]36. Walbassist - Franz Sirius fretless 5, ACG Krell 33" fretted 5, Tecamp Bonafide and 2 x Tecamp XS115 Classic cabs[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]37. Denigar - Bergantino B/AMP and two Berg' cabs. Roscoe Custom 5 and Sire Marcus Miller V7 4 string JB plus pedal board.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]38. seashell - Fender P[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]39. hen_barn - status kingbass, status s2, status s1 5 string and Marcus Miller sure! . Tecamp puma and vanderklays 4x10!!![/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]40. 51m0n - shiny Barefaced Big Twin II, a Roscoe Century Standard 5 string, a Markbass sa450 and assorted shizzles.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]41.Captain Rumble - xotic xp-1j 4, Tonehammer, Barefaced S12[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]42. Wolverinebass - Wal Mk2[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]43. noisyjon - Fender CS MB P/J bass, Lakland USA Bob Glaub, Mesa Boogie M6 Carbine &amp; a Barefaced Super Twin.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]44. Chrisfbass - 2 Wals... And wait until you see the blue one![/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]45. Seer73 - Lefty Basses:- Sire V7 & Conklin GT5, Amp:- Warwick CCL 210 [/font][/color]

[quote name='obbm' timestamp='1474634081' post='3139448'] Different companies adopt different buiness models. Mesa and Musicman have UK distributors as the middleman between factory and dealer. This makes it easier for the manufacturer as they are only dealing with a single point of contact in each country for ordering. The prospect of a manufacturer having to deal with a myriad of local resellers is a total nightmare which is why they work this way. Fender however have a wholly owned subsiduary, Fender UK, who do much the same but are part of the corporate umbrella and as such have to follow corporate policy with regard to pricing, etc. Quilter currently seem quite happy to deal directly with a sole UK Reseller however if their business grows dramatically and they increase their market presence then they will no doubt go down the Distributor route with a consequential increase in prices to pay for it. Mesa Boogie, for their own business reasons, appointed Westside Distribution as their Distributors. They handle a number of different manufacturers product lines and have offices and warehouse facilities and deal with sales forecasting, ordering, import processing, warehousing and onward shipment of all the products they handle. They pay for UK advertising, exhibition attendance and general marketing. In addition they are response for post-sales warranty so if your Prodigy dies it will have to back to them for it to be fixed at their cost, assuming that it is still within the warranty period. All of this is paid for from the mark-up on the products they are selling as well as salaries, national insurance, business rates, insurance, and all the other overheads that go with running a business. How they apportion mark-ups to their respective products is down to them. One could try and protest by not buying anything in which case they would say there is no market for this product and stop importing it. If you want to continue this discussion tomorrow I'd be more than happy to carry on. [/quote] I fully understand the distribution model and how it used to work in a non-connected world.. Indeed in my working life I've run a UK distribution company for a US tech firm and in another role appointed european distributors. The only real benefits a distie can offer these days are 1. Local market knowledge (ie what retail outlets to approach) 2. Trade credit accounts. In ye olden days they would also hold stock, spares and have an engineering/warranty/repair function. Westside don't seem to hold stock and farm out repairs from what I've seen.. Happy to carry on tomorrow...

[quote name='obbm' timestamp='1474631613' post='3139407'] Read post #66 [/quote] I did.. I was asking what the distributors actually do for their cut these days? As in what value they add to the supply chain, not that it costs them money to run their operations...

[quote name='obbm' timestamp='1474631152' post='3139400'] Sorry, which instance? [/quote] Mesa D800 retail in US - $699. Retail in UK £845 Quilter Block 800 - $599 US retail . Retail in UK £620.. What value is the Mesa distributor adding?

[quote name='obbm' timestamp='1474630934' post='3139397'] Like all things in life, if you don't like Mesa's price then don't buy it. [/quote] I do have a mesa :-) but this does not excuse sticking with a distribution and pricing model that stuffs the UK marketplace..

[quote name='obbm' timestamp='1474630868' post='3139395'] Not a fair comparison as there is no Distributor just one Dealer who probably buys directly from the factory. [/quote] So what value are the distributor adding for their 20% in this instance?

[quote name='obbm' timestamp='1474630177' post='3139377'] I suspect that your last point is closer to the truth however you are not comparing like with like. You have to also consider sales volume. Fender sell far more guitars than Mesa sell bass amps. Guitars are easier to support as in general they don't go wrong so mark-ups can be lower as the inbuilt support costs are lower.. If an amp fails then the cost of fixing it is considerably higher. BTW I have no connection with any importer, distributor or dealer, I just speak from experience having worked for 40 years in the high-end electronics industry. It's the way it is and no amount of winging will change it. If you want to pay US prices for something then go there and buy it. Bring back Freddie Laker and Skytrain. [/quote] Quilter amp pricing in the UK and Europe appears to follow the £=$ model ... So if they can do it...

and it's got a certificate as well :-)

[quote name='largo' timestamp='1474628969' post='3139363'] Fair enough, but my experience from buying US products has always been close to paying the same in GBP as you would in USD. A US Fender Precision is about $1350 from Sweetwater & about £1350 from Guitar Guitar. A Mesa Subway D800 is $699 from Sweetwater & £849 from Bass Direct. Personally, I think someone is making more than their fair share on the Mesa gear coming into the UK. [/quote] This... Anything more than a 25-30% uplift for VAT/Duty and handling (at the moment that pretty much equates to £=$) is taking the p*** .. The US also has distributors and retailers...

[quote name='largo' timestamp='1474625918' post='3139314'] They are very expensive but, in my opinion very well built and sound great. Not sure if Mesa would be considered value for money however. The distributor prices have increased by 20% in the last couple of months too, probably blaming the weak pound but I'm also perplexed why the US prices are so much cheaper than UK, even given exchange rates. I could almost have got a cheap flight to the US and "smuggled" my Subway amp back for the extra it cost me. [/quote] YUp - hard to see how $699 plus sales tax in the US = £830 ish street price for the D800 in the UK.... Should be £100 cheaper at least.. And of course the D800 has a 100-240V power supply..

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1474376815' post='3137481'] I basically swapped out all the hardware on a CS... so I bought the wood basically.. and I'd have done better getting someone like Sims to scan my required dims on some nice wood..and fitted decent after parts from Hipshot and the like. It would have been a much better bass, I'd wager, but the problem would have been trying to get [color=#ff0000][b]£1k for it when selling.[/b][/color].. [/quote] +1 In red. I have a custom Jazz 5 which is worth less than the bridge/tuners/preamp and pickups unless someone takes a shine to it. I did not take the original hit (apart from some shielding work and new preamp) but I suspect it's mine forever..

[quote name='Nicko' timestamp='1474457009' post='3138130'] I dont get why the PA should b chargeable. I provide my instruments, rig, pedals etc without charging extra. If I need a set of strings I dont expect the band to chip in. [/quote] Because it's on top of providing "i[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]nstruments, rig, pedals etc" - It takes me less that 5 minutes to setup my instruments/rig/pedals etc, guess how long it takes to setup a PA correctly.. Plus you've got four lots of loading to do, and provide a vehicle to carry it all as well as my "i[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]nstruments, rig, pedals etc" . [/font][/color]

Did he run out of one type of wood midway through building it?

[quote name='FuNkShUi' timestamp='1474441755' post='3137985'] Not all that many amps can go down to 2 ohms, so that will be your limiting factor probably. I have a Little Mark 2 as my back up. I can get a great sound from that, although i don't use overdrive. Super lightweight and they go for really cheap second hand at the minute [/quote] The above +1 - cheap/lightweight/2 Ohm capable don't seem to go together... maybe the bass block 800? but depends on your definition of cheap..

[quote name='Jamescrazy88' timestamp='1474396468' post='3137729'] I bought the pa myself all monitors, mics, leads, desk and stands along with a van (big pa) and take a bigger cut when the money is there. It's easier than having to divide it up if the band splits or paying a member off if they choose to leave. I'm kind of the band leader as well so it's a responsibility I feel I need to carry. [/quote] This is the ideal situation for me apart from having a dedicated PA person.

[quote name='silverfoxnik' timestamp='1474396007' post='3137710'] Still not working for me, Silvia ?? [/quote] works for me - chrome on a PC/W10...

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1474383796' post='3137544'] They can have higher sensitivity in the lows, but that's not always the case. Or larger.Some do, some don't. Or not. You can no more make a blanket statement about ported versus sealed than you can as to which is faster, a 4 cylinder versus 8 cylinder engine vehicle. My 4 cylinder twin-turbo BMW is a lot faster than my next door neighbor's 8 cylinder two-ton Toyota pickup truck. [/quote] And lo BFM leaps into the fray... :-) perhaps I should have said "in general" or "there is a slight tendency" :-)

I'm sure someone who is an acoustic engineer will be along in a moment, but as far as I understand ported cabs are more efficient (and can be smaller), sealed cabs have a flatter frequency response and therefore can be more accurate.. Just stumbled across this.. [url="https://www.talkbass.com/threads/ported-vs-sealed-your-thoughts.664747/"]https://www.talkbass.com/threads/ported-vs-sealed-your-thoughts.664747/[/url]

Conversation in factory "shall we finish the headstock off? " "nah, bugger that the pub is open" :-)