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[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1422342670' post='2671289'] I was in a Bowie tribute for a few years before my current band - great fun. The Ziggy album is an entity in itself; there are many people who only go to see the Ziggy stuff. As such, we ended up playing a few gigs where the first set was the Ziggy album in its entirety. This was a huge hit for those particular fans, who knew every word and every note which came next. Other ones which went down really well were Life on Mars, Let's Dance, Modern Love, Heroes etc. Funny that you all knew China Girl - i didn't know it and never warmed to it :-( My personal favourites to play were Hang on to Yourself, Fame and Boys Keep Swinging Good memories, and some great gigs [/quote] We learnt China Girl last year for a charity gig which is where we the seeds of all this were born. The studio version is a little antiseptic, but we're playing more along the lines of this version.... [url="http://youtu.be/NEl6BBLwSa0"]http://youtu.be/NEl6BBLwSa0[/url] I think the singer has done the whole of Ziggy before. I'm not saying never, but that could be a little way off yet. Strange you should say Modern Love as I don't think that ever came over very well when Bowie did it live. Love the song though. I wouldn't mind having a crack at Cat People as well.

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1422320972' post='2671240'] There's nothing from Station to Station, Low, Heroes or Lodger - that's quite a big ommission. [/quote] Just made a new page on the spreadsheet in our Dropbox showing a chart of the spread of songs. Six of the ten we have are from Diamond Dogs or older. Nothing between Diamond Dogs and Let's Dance (6 albums) and nothing between Let's Dance and The Next Day (8 albums). [quote name='KK Jale' timestamp='1422325291' post='2671253'] Currently springing to mind: Sorrow, Lady Grinning Soul, Teenage Wildlife... [/quote] Now there's an interesting trio of songs.

[quote name='Mr Arkadin' timestamp='1422319048' post='2671232'] Nice you're doing one slightly newer track, but there's nothing after Diamond Dogs all the way to Scary Monsters. Some of my fave albums are in there, although I would find it hard to pick tracks as I prefer the lesser known tracks, like I would do Beauty and the Beast rather than "Heroes" but how many people even know that track? [/quote] Mmm, I had to be quite strong about getting Stars in there. I wasn't particularly bothered that it was that track, but I wanted something from The Next Day in there as I thought it would be different bearing in mind Bowie himself hasn't toured it. [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1422319291' post='2671233'] Moonage Daydream Sound And Vision Ziggy Stardust TVC15 Fashion Golden Years [/quote] Moonage Daydream is quite high up the list of to do's, but I love your other choices as well. [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1422319447' post='2671234'] The list could be very long, but I'll just put in a vote for 'Space Oddity'. [/quote] Yes, the list of stuff we want to do is huge, but I think we need to get a nice balance with this truncated set. Love Space Oddity though. [quote name='peteb' timestamp='1422319522' post='2671235'] More songs from Hunky Dory! [/quote] That's another issue, even if we did one song from every album we would still have to miss some albums out for the first gig. At least Hunky Dory is represented already. [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1422320972' post='2671240'] There's nothing from Station to Station, Low, Heroes or Lodger - that's quite a big ommission. [/quote] As above really. The guitarist is working on Station to Station (the song), but that's going to be a work in progress I think. Stay has been mentioned quite early on. Golden Years will almost certainly get done at some stage as will Wild Is The Wind. I'm not sure about the other two though. I almost don't want to do Heroes (the song) as it's just too obvious. Is that wrong? There is some great stuff on Lodger and that will come soon enough. Everything seems to draw us back towards Ziggy. Three songs from that album are already in. Moonage Daydream has been mentioned more than once between us and the drummer is fairly insistent on doing Five Years. What to do!

I've just returned from rehearsal #2 which went just as well as the first. The band came to an agreement that we would like to start playing live as soon as possible, even if it means playing a shorter set for a support slot of some kind. To that end we moved on to discuss set content for such a gig. The songs below are pretty much good to go and we're looking to expand them by another eight in preparation for our first outing. The Bowie catalogue is so huge and packed with such classics we're spolit for choice. We would like to maintain a balance between early and late material. With this in mind, are there any particular songs that a hardcore Bowie fan would expect a tribute band to play and would be disappointed if they weren't? Here's what we have so far: 1. China Girl (this went in because it was one everyone already knew) 2. Let's Dance (as above) 3. The Jean Genie 4. Rebel Rebel 5. Starman 6. Changes 7. Suffragette City 8. Rock & Roll Suicide 9. All The Young Dudes 10. The Stars (Are Out Tonight) Already in for next time are I'm Afraid of Americans and The Man Who Sold The World.

[quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1418486237' post='2630609'] I don't wear it very often---I'm not really a sweater wearer---but it might get an outing at a gig at somepoint... [/quote] Looks good. Thanks for posting.

[quote name='Mr Arkadin' timestamp='1418381655' post='2629675'] Yes the Commercial Album was the one I got in some special edition. Think it was limited judging by current prices. Nice to see a John Oswald (plunderphonics) reference in this thread. Not for everyone. He had to destroy copies of DAB (see: MJ's Bad) because Michael Jackson's people were not too happy. Can't think why: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8xIWLG-F0Ag [/quote] That link is great. I'd never heard of Oswald or Plunderphonics before. The mind boggles at how hard it must have been to create back in the day. The end section is almost Vangelis like in its soundscape. I can see why MJ and his people didn't see the funny side, however it is the complete antidote to him. No one can argue that it's too weird either, because it's Michael Jackson we're talking about! Some great comments there.

[quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1418379876' post='2629657'] My dad is really into The Residents and whilst I don't quite share his passion I do quite like them. Third Reich N Roll, The Commercial Album, and Meet The Residents are all good. Need to look out my Residents jumper, its a good antidote to all the Xmas jumpers doing the rounds! [/quote] I totally get that it's not everyone's cup of Darjeeling, but I'm sure there are going to be some little gems tucked away in their back catalogue somewhere. A Residents jumper sounds fantastic. Post a picture of you manage to find it. Thanks for the info.

[quote name='SlapbassSteve' timestamp='1418356933' post='2629529'] Definitely Commercial Album is a great place to start, followed by Duck Stab(Primus once covered Hello Skinny and Constantinople) and Third Reich(great for a spot of 'guess the song'). I love Gingerbread Man too, the full video on YouTube is excellent, as all of theirs are. My highlight has to be this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTJJb1UqjuA [/quote] Thanks Steve. I will investigate those albums once I have familiarised myself with TRAR. I might have this all wrong, but I thought no one knew what the band members looked like. I would bet a large amount of money that the man playing the guitar in the link you posted is the same person singing Give It To Someone Else here.... http://youtu.be/0gWofXR46aw Yet his full face is on show, only from the side admittedly.

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1418348972' post='2629509'] If it was down to one album then it would be Third Reich N Roll for me. Worth the price for Sunshine Of Your Love/Hey Jude/Sympathy For The Devils guitar and cheesy synth. Wonderful!!! [/quote] [b]Thank you,[/b] your Amazon order has been placed. We've sent you an e-mail confirmation. We've sent you an e-mail confirmation. [b]New[/b] [url="https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/buy/spc/handlers/static-submit-decoupled.html/ref=ox_spc_place_order?ie=UTF8&hasWorkingJavascript=#"][color="#004b91"]Sign up[/color][/url] for delivery updates by text for this and future orders (UK +44 mobile numbers).

[quote name='linear' timestamp='1418352405' post='2629522'] God in 3 Persons is my fave by a long way, but probably best to preview that one on youtube before buying. Incidentally, if anyone has a CD copy of the instrumental version that they want to sell or are willing to rip for me, I'd be very grateful. I have it on vinyl, but am struggling to find a digital copy. [/quote] Two minutes on t'internet confirms your assumption that it is quite rare. I'll let you know if I stumble across a copy.

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1418352260' post='2629520'] The Residents 'George & James' (American Composers Volume One) LP is good if you like your JB and Gershwin done a little differently. Here's a little James..... [url="http://youtu.be/kINqjKyQ43c?list=PL465ABDD21A242D3C"]http://youtu.be/kINq...65ABDD21A242D3C[/url] [/quote] Great stuff. The track that ignited the spark for me, which was one of those random You Tube recommendations, was "Give It To Someone Else". There are loads of live versions on You Tube, but I couldn't find the album track on there, which is nicely produced.

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1418351691' post='2629519'] Indeed! Long before the days we were all on t'internet i made a cassette copy of this and gave it to a musician friend who was a massive Jim Morrison/Doors fan. He hated it, couldn't see the funny side of it and i still don't think he's ever got over it to this day. Enjoy!!!! [media]http://youtu.be/LBznPAirdzA[/media] [/quote] Ah! Now, you see, if Zappa did The Doors, I think this is fairly similar to what it would sound like. Infinitely more listenable than the original as far as I'm concerned. But then I'm weird.

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1418350839' post='2629515'] Don't get me wrong, Eskimo has it's moments ok but let's say it's not the best place to start. The Commercial Album is a good un but seems to be very expensive on Amazon. There are also a few Snakefinger LPs worth checking out too. I look forward to hear what you think about Third Reich N Roll. It makes me chuckle just thinking about that LP!!! [/quote] You're not supposed to chuckle. This is music. This is serious business. Having said that.... [list=1] [*]"[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papa%27s_Got_a_Brand_New_Bag"]Papa's Got a Brand New Bag[/url]" (sung in German)[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Reich_%27n_Roll#cite_note-papa-4"][size="2"][4][/size][/url][/sup] [/list] [size=6][sup]How can you not chuckle at that?[/sup][/size]

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1418348972' post='2629509'] I got into them around 1977 after buying Third Reich & Roll. The two earlier albums Meet The Residents and Fingerprince soon followed and then every LP until the mid 90s. Third Reich & Roll is a must for early period Residents but all of those plus Not Available, Duck Stab/Buster & Glen interesting but i do prefer the early stuff best. Those Ralph LPs were difficult to find back then over here but worth the patience to track them down. 1980s Commercial Album is fun and one of the most accessible as is the Nibbles compilation which was released by Virgin in 1979. Other worth having compilations are Residue Of The Residents (1983) and Petting Zoo (2002) and probably best to avoid Eskimo for now. If it was down to one album then it would be Third Reich N Roll for me. Worth the price for Hey Jude/Sympathy For The Devils guitar and cheesy synth. Wonderful!!! I've played a lot of this recently (I still have the vinyl LPs) but it doesn't seem half a whacky as it sounded at the time so i'd be interested to hear what anyone just discovering this stuff thinks about it. [/quote] Thank you ever so much for that insight. I did laugh when I read your comment about Eskimo as I had literally just been reading the comments on Amazon about that very album. I almost bought it immediately after having read them! I tend to avoid compilations unless there is material present that is unavailable elsewhere, because if I get into it I'll end up buying it again anyway. Third Reich N Roll it is then. Anyone want to suggest a second purchase

[quote name='Mr Arkadin' timestamp='1418347665' post='2629501'] I ended up buying one album and then stopped for that very reason. It's like just now getting into Frank Zappa or Neil Young. Where the hell to start? I'll be interested in the responses too. [/quote] Ha ha. Do you know, I was going to say that it would be similar to someone asking me about Zappa as I have pretty much everything he's done. Go on then, which album did you go for? Did you like it?

I've heard a few bits and pieces of The Residents on You Tube and I was sufficiently curious to take the next step. I then had a look at their discography on Wikipedia and it's huge. Can anyone recommend a good jump off point for a first album purchase? Thanks.

You've got that "wring", I DID want an SLO neck and they're like feckin' hens teeth. I don't think any of the stuff you've quoted should have been a concern. I knew the spec and was happy to pay for it, up front if need be, plus I would have been happy to lock myself into a "no changes" clause if required.

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1418213696' post='2627985'] For example, if a customer asks me for specific set of strings that are in production, it's really easy to provide them with it. If they want to maybe have a set of their own that's got multiple different strings from multiple sets, that can be done as well, but it's a custom order. The components exist, just not in that specific arrangement, so it's a custom set. I don't know why they wouldn't open a custom shop, however. It seems to be working for Fender. But the cold hard truth right now is that they don't have a custom shop, so if we want a custom MM, we either need to build one ourselves from salvaged parts, or ask a luthier to build a MM replica, but to your specifications. [/quote] Yes, I get that. The one thing I wasn't going to budge on though was the SLO neck and there are just so few of them about. I knew I would have to put an order in to get the colour I wanted. Having got that far, I couldn't help thinking about what would make it the perfect bass for me i.e. those couple of extras. It's all in pursuit of a particular upcoming project by the way and not just some flight of whimsy.

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1418203885' post='2627846'] Oh dear... apparently I didn't make it obvious enough that my previous post was satire. EBMM aren't a dodgy company at all. I agree with you - They don't advertise custom instruments, they've never said they'd make custom instruments, so why be upset when they tell you they can't make you a custom instrument? [/quote] Ha ha. I did get it straight away, but then doubted that what you wrote was satire when I saw the reply. No, EB are not dodgy at all IME, quite the opposite in fact and I would hate to give the impression that I am not in anyway satisfied with the Stingray's I own. I love them all and can't envision parting with any of them (apart from the fretless which was bought for a project and I have no further use for). I know it's a slight play on words, but I do take issue with the "they don't make custom instruments, so why be upset when they say they won't make one" argument in this specific case. They do make them, but only when THEY want to make them! The spec I was after is completely stock apart from the gold hardware and matching headstock. No custom wiring, switching, size, weight or colours. I could order a Stingray without those two options tomorrow. I stand to be proved wrong, but I'll wager there is a gold hardware kit or two knocking around at EB somewhere and how much bother would it be to ask the paint team to spray a headstock white in exchange for a £2000 ish price tag. Seemed like a fair exchange to me. Their loss, not mine really.

[quote name='AndyBob09' timestamp='1418002704' post='2625958'] Get the parts and do it yourself? It would take time to source it all but it'd be a lot cheaper in the long run? [/quote] Yes, I hear what you're saying, but it would probably take me more time than I can spare at the moment. Nice idea though. That's the bit that I find annoying. EB are currently manufacturing (or have very recently manufactured) basses with all the parts I would need. It's just not possible to get a new bass with those bits. [quote name='Subbeh' timestamp='1418006523' post='2625961'] I bite my thumb at theeeeee!!! Anyway.... A MM configurator ike the Sandberg and Fender ones would be the greatest thing ever. Obviously their current business model works but still, it's criminal that such a thing doesn't exist! Getting to really customise my perfect Sabre or 'Ray would be effing fantastic [/quote] Configurator. Yes. That's exactly what EB need. There is a [url="http://www.basscentral.com/pdimages/2014/BLOWUPS%202014/MUSICMANSTINGRAY4HWHITEPRLALLROSEWOOD92836.html"]rosewood necked 'Ray at Bass Central[/url]. I've never seen one like that before. It can't be a one-off 'cos they don't do that sort of thing [quote name='Chiliwailer' timestamp='1418022820' post='2625977'] Having met you twice, I can firmly confirm that you are not even close to being a prick, you're a top man with a huge passion for basses. It's easy for people to unfairly judge in forums, so they do. You wanted your dream bass, you didn't like their reasons, big deal, feel how you want to mate, who gives a toss what others chip in with. [/quote] Thanks mate. Is Paypal OK?