toneknob

I recall an interview with Tony Banks that said that (early on at least) they treated live albums as much as a "best of" rather than a document of a full concert (or at least a full setlist, gleaned from multiple gigs, like Live Over Europe). Bootlegs are you friends for full gig recordings of course.

Yep, seen both several times as well. As a classic Genesis fan I'm sure you'll enjoy the show! As mentioned before it's great theatre, and a massive nostalgia fest. (regarding Steve Hackett, ditto the latter as well. unless he plays the "new stuff" ie after * insert preferred cut off date here * )

Agreed - Beggsy is great but Lee Pomeroy's playing was spot on in Hackett's band. Jonas Reingold is doing a pretty good job as well.

For roughly the same ticket price, actual Steve Hackett wins hands down for me (despite Nad Sylvan)

Yes I've never understood why they do the "studio" version "live"

So they're a Genesis studio tribute rather than a Genesis live tribute. Kind of verifies what I've been told previously

Why though? (singer playing bass that is)

Yes, I'm a spotter/sniffer as well.

Somehow this is seven years ago already: https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/193152-the-power-of-basschat/

Prog people would say it's the best Genesis album. I'd go as far as saying it's got their best songs on (Firth, Cinema Show, Moonlit Knight if you can take the endless coda), some ok (I Know What I Like) and filler (the rest). Looking forward to the gig as much for the Spectral Mornings content as the Selling England. The last show of his I saw at the RFH last year was really good. Jonas has done the best job as a Rutherford in Hackett's band except Lee Pomeroy. TMB put on a great show but I have suspicions that there are more than five of them doing the job. The Watch are pretty good as well.

2014, hard to believe it's nearly five years ago. It was amazing and a top three all-time gig. JG's Takamine TB-10 from the show is still well-looked after I'm sure everyone will be relieved to hear.

I never really got Toby's in its full glory. Again much prefer the potted version on Yesshows (which is still over half an hour long).

Agree with all of that. It's more jazz rock really. Anyway check out the live version on Yesshows, it's about 115% of the studio version.

See Erotomania by DT for a load of different times sigs, including alternating 10/8 and 11/8 to keep you on your toes.

This happened to float past on the music player this morning - Surrounded by Dream Theater. After the first verse or two, the instrumental kicks in, 9/8

This sounds like it should be recurring comic strip in Viz

Oooh, controversial. Do you prefer the Tokyo Tapes version, with neither intro nor keys solo in the middle? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVw7KgmD3Gs about 12mins in) That intro for time sig fans: ||: 4/4 12/8 2/4 4/4 13/8 :|| 4/4 ||: 13/8 :|| x4 ||: 15/8 :|| x4 ||: 4/4 13/8 :|| x3 4/4 12/8 2/4 4/4 12/8 2/4 4/4 13/8 4/4 12/8 2/4 4/4 4/4 4/4 4/4

Had a listen to Relayer today just cos. Awesome

Those Tod songs with Jon Anderson are amazing. Look for State Of Independence, Heart Of The Sunrise, Owner of a Lonely Heart, and Roundabout as well

Try playing along to the original of Dance On A Volcano if it's speeding up you're after. (Also there's some 11/8 in the coda, to stay on topic)

Also Discipline, read all about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discipline_(instrumental)

Incidentally Tool and others like King Crimson etc are big on polymetry as well as odd time sigs: for example one guitar playing in 7/8 and the other in 5/8. A good example of this (with these exact time sigs) is B'Boom/Thrak by Crimson, written in their Double Trio persion (mid 90s). One trio plays in 5/8 while the other in 7/8. 7m17s onwards:

The instrumental of Robbery, Assault and Battery by Genesis is 13/8, but they group it differently throughout, eg 6&7, 4&9 etc, starts at 2m37s

And the main bit of Awaken starting at 2m20s

Yes are mad for an 11. Here's the Gates Of Delirium with the 11/4 instrumental starting at 13m30s