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[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1486920242' post='3235526'] Sometimes we get paid in our pocket..sometimes in our hearts.. [/quote] Sometimes both, often neither

[quote name='prowla' timestamp='1486889715' post='3235211'] Actually, I really did mean the overall volume; my Rickys aren't as loud as my Statii... :-) [/quote] Also are the the Statii actually louder? trick question, if the signal was set to flat on the active Status would it still have a hotter output than the passive Ricky, who knows, even the if the "flat" points have a centre detent on the preamp they might not be truly flat as such and could still be boosting a bit of something.

[quote name='prowla' timestamp='1486889715' post='3235211'] (This is a bit like the "Why are the adverts on telly louder than the programme?" question.) If you turn up all of the eq, does that count as boosting the signal? :-) Actually, I really did mean the overall volume; my Rickys aren't as loud as my Statii... :-) [/quote] If you have a passive bass and passive EQ on the amp when it's maxed out that is all it can give ANY adjustments you make on the bass or amp EQ is actually cutting the signal somewhere. If you have an active bass or EQ anything over 0 is boosting something synthetically that your bass didn't produce as such. The tricky bit is cutting certain frequencies can make it sound louder to the human ear and boosting the bass won't do much if your using a tiny speaker other than steal all the power from the amp.

[quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1486893016' post='3235247'] Well done and that's what its all about. Dave [/quote] Not in Milwaukee

Bloody Brexit no doubt

[quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1486738322' post='3234261'] Depends of the case and soundman in question. For me the tone has to reach the amp just like it's suposed to sound to the audience, the amp is there to make it sound louder and EQ is used to correct the stage sound, doing this you're making sure the same tone is sent to the FOH mixer. If one relies on the amp's EQ to tailor the tone its perfectly fine, just take a post EQ DI out of the amp if the cab is flat/uncoloured or just mic the cab for FOH. A good soundman is the one that doesn't EQ your bass to sound like A or B, the good soundman (and i've found quite a few of them) will only mess with EQ to get rid of resonances in the room and will respect your core tone. Of course this will happen if the bass player makes sure that he's sending his good tone to FOH. But there are also bad techs out there unfortunetly, in those cases just forget about FOH sound and enjoy playing the gig with your mates. [/quote] I almost always use a pre EQ DI and no fx, I can make a complete mess on stage of my own mix and sound great out front, this only works if you keep the stage level lower than the PA so most bands fail there to start with and using your backline as FOH dictates both and a compromise must be met.

[quote name='mikel' timestamp='1486732320' post='3234181'] I know all of that, but bassists spend lots of time and money to get just the sound they want. Just the right bass, strings, amp, cabs, speakers and pedals to produce there unique sound............and then leave what the audience hear up to the sound guy????? Why not save a fortune and buy a P Bass, a pre amp and in ears, cos thats what the FOH will make your top range kit sound like anyway? [/quote] The thing is though and I know you are being sarcastic but sometimes that might actually sound better for the audience than the finely honed tone you've been trying to get just right.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1486725460' post='3234095'] I'd say if there is a sound guy you wouldn't be having this problem in the first place. Isn't this issue only present when you are trying to use your backline to provide FOH sound? [/quote] +1 In ears on stage is the best on stage sound that also doesn't ruin the FOH mix followed by small amps. Once you go backline for foh it's a compromise.

[quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1486663257' post='3233695'] Another effing Flea Jazz post? What was wrong with the other one that had millions of BCers wetting themselves? [/quote] It's a totally different bass other than the silhouette of the body but hey don't let that put you off giving us your wisdom on the matter

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1486648050' post='3233516'] There's a trampoline next to the cab for that purpose. It's also entertaining for the audience. [/quote] That would require me coming out from behind my obligatory pillar!

[quote name='Killstarz' timestamp='1486656324' post='3233611'] I never understood why folk wanted to emulate Flea's tone. It works in the Chilis but at least to my ears it's not what I'd ever consider a 'good' tone. I mean, like everything it's a personal taste thing, I just never liked it much. Great player though, obviously. [/quote] I don't think many people buying a jazz bass the same colour were expecting instant flea tones, same would go for a FenderRay, one would do Jazz sounds and the other Stingray sounds of some description. I'd be interested in 5 string version of it, I like Fender Jazzes and I like Stingrays.

[quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1486641789' post='3233444'] IMO and IME isolation bases like gramma pads and the likes don't do much effect. They can reduce floor coupling but don't avoid having your cab sitting low, close to the floor and pumping sound to your legs. Wou won't hear the highs and mids clearly, only the lows. My rather inexpensive solution to this is to use a amp stand. This is the one i'm using: It's a amp stand from Warwick, Rockstand RS 23010, was something like 30€ from Thomman. It's adjustable in height and i can use it with with a boom bigger then the other to use the combo slanted if i want. I've been using it to raise my 2x12" for the past 3 years with great results. A chair, beer crate, drummers case, empty hardcase, etc. all work fine aswell as long as they can raise your cab(s) enough to have the driver (and tweeter) pointing directly at your ears. Setting up the gear away from corners everytime possible is also great to avoid a boomy stage due to wall reinforcement and result in a clear tone with note-to-note definition. Another thing, as sujested, is to pay attention to the sub-low region of your EQ. If you're going through the PA then you can HPF on the 70-80Hz and that will clean up your lows surprisingly well. If providing bass for the room from your gig you'll need more lows but keep in mind that that comes at the cost of a muddy stage sound. Another thing to pay attention is to not get an excessive scooped sound, that may sound great in the bedroom or when you're soundcheking alone but add a band to the mix and the bass will get lost and your band mates won't be able to hear you well. Just by doing all this things i can get my stage sound cristal clear whith more than enough low end to be felt and everybody can hear me. This also allows me to play at a lower volume and be able to hear the rest of the band while saving my ears from premature deafness. I have constant compliments to my sound from the band and the audience. When we (the band members) go out for a drink or listen to some live music my guitar player is allways telling me how much he prefers my sound to what we're listening so i must be doing something right, i think [/quote] How would you reach the knobs on an ampeg head on top of an ampeg 8x10 all the way up there?

[quote name='Kev' timestamp='1486596447' post='3233220'] Entirely disagree, but thats what opinions are for! The Fender just sounds like a weak stingray or a weak modulus, literally cannot hear anything better about it. He very rarely uses effects, by the way. Occasional clean boost, very occasional filter and very very occasional overdrive/fuzz. [/quote] No I agree, he'd sound better live with an off the hook Stingray.

The Jazz basses he used didn't work live at all imo, the Fenderay does do what he needs it too, I've seen him live with various basses other than a pukka Ray and I'm not really a fan of his live sound whatever he uses but I find that with most bass sounds that use FX tbh.

Pop one of those £30 stinger preamps in and you've got a great bass for less than £200, nice work!

[quote name='Wayne Firefly' timestamp='1486553315' post='3232653'] According to The Fender Book (updated edition) by Tony Bacon and Paul Day, on page 80, I copied this, as it is. Technically speaking, Fender's Mexican plant doesn't manufacture guitars. It assembles guitars. Mike Lewis, vice president of marketing for electric guitars at Fender, explains that the bodies and necks for the company's Made In Mexico guitars are produced at the US factory in Corona and then sent down to the Mexican plant. ''There they sand them, paint them and buff them, and assemble them into guitars, with their own hardware. Also, they make their own pickups there, as well as all the Fender strings. So it would seem that they CNC all the wood bits in Corona. I hear USA bodies are 3 piece blanks, Mex are 5 piece. I can understand why they wouldnt have two sets of the same CNC machines. One set in Corona and another 180 miles south in Ensenada. [/quote] My U.S. has a two piece body, my Musician a solid slab.

[quote name='Number6' timestamp='1486156880' post='3229782'] My Mex Precision was better than quite a few US of A Fenders i tried. Infact some of those good ole mercan instruments were utter sh*te imho. [/quote] But as ever I've played some awful Mex basses (never a bad Mex guitar tbf) and never found a Mex as good as my U.S. Jazz.

Regardless of the ins and outs they need to sort it out, if they can't play the recent stuff live and they certainly can't play the new album tracks live but want to be a band that performs live they need to kick the bass player out before looking for another or possibly lose one guitarist live.

I think people confuse boosting signal with boosting eq?

[quote name='Graham' timestamp='1485974736' post='3228203'] I prefer Californication [/quote] And the new one is alright too, typical of most good albums you need to give them time.

[quote name='MoonBassAlpha' timestamp='1485951823' post='3227927'] So he didn't get [i]everything[/i] right first time! [/quote] Nah, he peaked in the mid 70's

Leo thought that double bass players would play it with the thumb apparently.

[quote name='Tripehound' timestamp='1485629786' post='3225485'] Has anyone tried using the built-in amp emulator in the RCF M18 mixer? Might make me feel a bit naked with only an iPad between me and the audience rather than a nice reassuring big amp and cab.... [/quote] Most of the time I'm clean di into the xair, bit of shaping but no fx added. I might actually try it now you mention it, what an amazing piece of kit they are!

[quote name='EliasMooseblaster' timestamp='1485872625' post='3227369'] I accept the risk of being dreadfully wrong and making myself look like an arse, but I believe the EQ sections on the Ashdown CTM series (and the Little Bastard) are old-fashioned "FMV" tone stacks - those are passive EQ, aren't they? [/quote] I'm not familiar with them but it's very possible, now how many people are using one without a pedal or sansamp etc?

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1485861522' post='3227212'] Arent we talking passive basses.Not passive amps.It's a given that the amp has an EQ and an active circuit. But the bass itself is still passive. Good point though. [/quote] The final result is what the speaker does, passive bass and active EQ amp, active bass and passive EQ amp is the same but you have to walk further to adjust it mid song. As blue would say "I'm calling shenanigans" on the purity of a passive bass when it goes right into a modern amp with the EQ boosted.