stingrayPete1977

Imagine if he started a thread on Drum Chat "bass player is too loud, what size amp should he use?", I imagine the answer would be "one with a volume knob", with acoustic instruments the player is the volume knob.

[quote name='Trueno' timestamp='1472134856' post='3118797'] Actually I was trying to reply to Blue's point rather than disagreeing with you (which I don't). I should have quoted Blue, but it's a bit tedious to "spot quote" on an iPad. Next time I'll go upstairs and wake up Big Computer, although that requires an intensity of effort to which I am quite unused. [/quote]

I think you have done well there, at least they can't say "ohh what's up with him?!" if you do leave in future. Nice one and fingers crossed.

I think so yes, even a child's Mickey mouse kit would be loud if hit hard enough wouldn't it?

I didn't know the Jay Haide ones were Chinese? They are very nice.

That's why you MUST stand with your legs apart when playing one!

I've heard loud drummers with small kits,quiet drummers with large kits, loud drummers with large kits and quiet drummers with small kits.

[quote name='ubit' timestamp='1472126145' post='3118711'] Our drummer , whilst not being on the bread line, has a pretty poorly paid job. He gigs as much as he can to help with cash. I can do without the playing money, but I enjoy playing and like getting extra beer money. I can't understand where the argument comes from [/quote] I think you are getting two threads mixed up? The problem is of the volume of the band is always too loud not the on going playing for nowt thread, if I played on a band that only played for free that was too loud I'd leave.

Buy an upright, within a week you will wonder why the 35" bass has been shrunk to a size suitable for small children to play!

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1472074018' post='3118355'] No, I don`t, I`ve tried many different string brands and only Rotosound Steel Rounds give me the tone I`m looking for. [/quote] And for me Rotosounds are one of very few brands I'd rather avoid,I had a free set with my jazz five and couldn't wait for them to die, being Rotos that was one gig

[quote name='acidbass' timestamp='1472076716' post='3118410'] Genz Benz - had one myself and never got on with the tone! [/quote] I don't think genz counts as they were still popular when fender pulled the plug on them, their bass chat demise was driven by outside forces

[quote name='Trueno' timestamp='1472111777' post='3118516'] Actually, I have known band members living on the breadline in the UK. One of the reasons I quit the band, because they would do any gig just to get some money, whereas I had a full time job and couldn't gig up to four times a week. They were also fiddling their benefits, which I was uneasy with. [/quote] Oh I know both situations exist, I was just pointing out that not every pro even at the lower levels are in blue's situation.

As an electrician and a musician (still open for debate) I'd say the difference there is that my qualifications as an electrician are quantifiable where art isn't, does a grade 8 on violin make you any more enjoyable to listen to if the person listening hates the sound of a violin?

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1472075798' post='3118395'] Pete, do you personally know any musicians living on the " breadline" whatever that is, playing bar gigs? I'm interested because I don't. I'm also slowly learning that the playing opportunities in the UK are quite different than in the States. I'm maintaining my position. Volume would not be a reason to quit a band. Bass players are always going to deal with volume issues in rock bands as long as there are still guitar players. No gigs, that would be a reason to quit. Most won't quit their job until they have another. That's the way it is in the States and for many different reasons. Remember most over here get their health insurance through their employer. Oh, by the way, I don't eat bread. And I know several musicians with no work that would love a book of good paying bar band business. I'm not sure bar and pub gigs are the same.Might be a good thread and discussion. Keep in mind there is no negative connotation to bar gigs over here. We have national headliners that play bars over here. We all can't sell out Wembley. Blue [/quote] You constantly tell us you have to gig to survive, we call that living on the bread line in the UK, it stops you having the luxury of being able to walk away from a job you hate until you have another. I know of lots of professional players that have earnt enough money that they have a financial buffer to not need to take any old gig, one is a member here who is on a retainer that gives him enough money for the whole year before he leaves his house (which is paid for) the function gigs, dep gigs and anything else is as you would say in the states, gravy. I'm not criticising your situation, just trying to make you understand there is more than one position you can be in financially, The type of profession is not important either, my wife works in a cafe,some people there will spend this week's wages on food and rent, missing a week will cause them money troubles, my wife could afford to walk out and wait for another job to come in as long as I'm working and still be able to live fairly comfortably.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1472065410' post='3118202'] If your not making your living from playing music you can quit anytime for any reason. If playing in any band is your only source of income,you don't quit until you find another band that can pay you at the same level. Blue [/quote] Not all musicians live on the breadline playing bar gigs, just like any job you can get to a point where carrying on isn't possible.

Ernie ball made strings before making basses, I don't know which part of their business is most profitable?

Awesome!!

I'll use whatever I can get my hands on for free firstly, failing that I do use EBMM strings on my EBMM basses but I've been using them longer than I've been playing EBMM basses. I didn't even know fender made strings!

[quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1471982190' post='3117492'] Hats. Used to be all about the hats. [/quote] Still is in the upright bass section, it's compulsory to wear head gear on a double bass.

If you have chosen the bass from all the possible instruments then your brain is working just fine, good luck

Letts

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1471946341' post='3117117'] Someone plonking away on a string might not be classed as music, hence that person may be training to be a musician. [/quote] Do we always have to use Adam Clayton as an example? *(I can hear WaterOfTyne sending a pm to the secret AC account as I speak!)

[quote name='drTStingray' timestamp='1471889450' post='3116760'] And to think I nearly bought one..... [/quote] I think there will be some bargain priced ones soon if you still want one, failing that a can of pink paint and a house brick taken to a second hand Mex Jazz with a pair of pots and twenty minutes with a soldering iron should yield similar results