stingrayPete1977

Both incredible musicians. Does Stevie play bass himself?

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1412430094' post='2568894'] I went to check out a Lakland and brought a Sei... no surprises there but the Lakland I passed on, I recommended to a friend who brought and sent it straight back. He also had big issues with MM as well, and I don't think they are the company they were, but there you go. If you are talking about production made basses, a few dogs are going to slip thru ...if only because of the numbers that they make. This is why, IME, you very very rarely buy unseen and played.... and I would exempt VERY few makers from that mantra. But that is me........... [/quote] What was wrong with the Lakky? See I have no issue with these basses being better built than ones for half the price, I presume most of the buyers of them know what they want and are happy to pay for it, they should and almost always are up to the mark IMO. I still cant understand why people get so upset about this, A mex P bass is less than £450 including shipping from Thomann, a USA lakland P bass style bass is around £3000, is it not normal that the Lakland should be a better built bass regardless of opinions or subjectivity?

I aim to please

I like the way the topic is about Lakland basses and the Fender boys have managed to make any negative Fender comments on this thread to be trolling I admire you tenacity if nothing else guys

I have never got this getting upset by other peoples opinion as so called fact, If I was registered here as Lakland Basses I could see the problem but as I am clearly like most of us just a fellow bass nerd surely the IMO IME should just be a given? Also what I can say is from the many many Fenders I have tried and the fewer Laklands I can say for a FACT the Laklands were better quality instruments, they were better than my own Musicman basses too, I am man enough to admit that As I have said before though they were more expensive too against any comparable Fender.

But with anything in life if you have tried dozens of one brand from various sources and quite a few of a rarer more expensive brand and EVERY one of the expensive ones were perfect yet the more common one had a few stinkers is it not a fairly good bet which will produce the better item most times? I have not driven every single Dacia Sandero, I am sure they are an OK car more than capable of meeting my needs but I would have a punt on a new Honda Civic being better built and finished almost everytime, and so it should at twice the price. I have tried Sadowsky basses, Alleva, Lakland USA's, GB etc etc they were all better than my Stingrays, it has not stopped me liking Stingrays but I can accept it. The feel and sound of a bass in subjective I agree 100% but a more solid neck joint, a sturdier more stable neck made of proven higher grade wood etc I cant see as subjective, even Fender have put the Hipshot tuners on their own custom build Jazz bass in the link.

[quote name='bassace' timestamp='1412426635' post='2568839'] Hope you can. You'll find a lot of helpful people to get you started. [/quote] And I will be there too

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1412422652' post='2568799'] What era Fenders are we talking? Are we talking out of the box instruments? Or instruments that have been inspected and hand finished in close detail? [/quote] Have you seen a single Fender bass of any model as good as Mr S's 55-94 would have when it was new? The funny thing is I am not expecting them to be, the USA Lakland is a £3500-4000 bass why anyone should feel one for £1800 should be as good is beyond me? This should be a closer match yet I have never tried one [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/fender_american_dlx_custom_jazz_v_vwt.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/fender_american_dlx_custom_jazz_v_vwt.htm[/url]

I played a sub £700 Lakland in guitar guitar a few years ago it was excellent as was everyone of about 6 various ones on the stand, I tried EVERY Fender bass in the shop inc the most expensive ones in there and they all had some form of issue, the Jazz 5 active Deluxe (?) was the worst of the lot, sounded dull and lifeless with a flappy B string BigRedX would have had a field day with! Of course I went back to the first shop I bought the Stingray5 instead anyway

A quartersawn neck and graphite rod is an improvement there can be no doubt, it looks the same for the purest of purests yet is factually stronger and more stable, who wants a less stable neck? How many of the die hard Fender fans have played a selection of USA Lakland basses at length? yet there word has to be taken as the be all and end all, BTW its a Lakland thread, we are discussing Lakland basses, where is the troll?

OK sshhh , dont tell anyone else then and we should be OK

That is what is good about music, something can get to one person and not another, dare I say I dont dig Jaco for example, I have tried but nothing is doing

Cool

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1412416008' post='2568690'] So you don't think his compositional skills and harmony are individual and interesting then? OK I just listened to your recommended Marty Friedman clips, they are solos over minor second riffs, so how are they in any way comparable to what the kid in the op is doing, which is far more compositionally and harmonically complex? [/quote] Not really, If you listen to loads of Megadeth or even some Metallica you will hear loads of that sort of composition in my opinion, nothing wrong with it but it doesn't get me going like it does you, it is all good, horses and courses etc

[quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1412417782' post='2568723'] With respect, you are talking rubbish. What measurements have you used for; build quality [b]Graphite Reinforced headstock and neck with a quartersawn neck, stunning tops if you like that sort of thing ([/b]I dont really) hardware standard B[b]etter bridge design and Hipshot tuners on all models, string reatainer, stainless bridge parts rather than chrome, neck bolts.[/b] range of tones. [b]Active/passive switchable more pickup choices with a wider range of frequencies available, coil selection on some models.[/b] [/quote]

Why can't Fender fans accept that they are not as well made as other basses?, I love my Stingrays but the USA Laklands are better basses than mine, I am happy to accept that, they use better quality woods built to higher standards ie Quarter Sawn graphite reinforced necks, Better neck bolt construction, reinforced headstock joint areas, Hipshot tuners etc etc I am not going to win over any Fender fans so it's not even worth going there but these are why they are better basses, they have a better range of tones because err they have more tones available? passive active, MM P J pickup choices with split coil selections etc etc how is that even debatable?

Have you all done your homework and made a details page? I have typed and printed, Lol

You know when I was typing last night I was thinking I am sure I have seen a truss rod, Lol just looked and there it is right in front of my face Never touched mine to be honest but its worth a try isnt it.

Not knocking his ability but I heard Tony Iommi for the intro then the licks were very much Megadeath note choices IMO, for me it was like watching the Jeff Beck and Tal clips but a bit more metal inspired, sorry Check out 1.30 or about 7.30 for how it is meant to be done [url="http://youtu.be/b7RoTZtiS1Q"]http://youtu.be/b7RoTZtiS1Q[/url]

I used to play a 55-02 quite regularly, it was better than any USA Fender for build quality, hardware standard and the range of tones available never mind the Mex, the USA 55-94 is even better still but it is 3 times the price of a Fender, probably not 3 times better but you can say what you like they are better than a Fender, they just are, as they should be

Ebay Logo on order?

Thats only hitting stuff though isn't it? *runs away*

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1412374062' post='2568467'] Actually, no - my Hayman is currently my only bass... [/quote] Touché

You could probably shim the neck a little, I've not had the neck off so its worth checking to see if there is a truss rod inside, anyone here know? How high is the action?