stingrayPete1977

No he isnt they are mediocre pretenders remember

Ive said it before even as an early uk built evo owner, I think the mag range sounds better.

It is all stage dressing, proper pa wedges will always be better than a bass amp on a big stage, other than flea who puts a 4x10 on the guitarists side of the stage I cant think of any big stage where the bass amp is spread out like that, do you think you would clearly hear an ampeg 6x10 on the far left of the stage at download if you were a guitarist on the right hand side with a drum kit in the middle? Those big rigs are more for us pub giggers to think they must be good as x uses them than they are for backline imo. Im considering taking just my 300 watt genz head and use the di from now on, whatever a roadie wants to put behind me is up to them

If someone like Pino owns a bass like that but never really made much use of it to me it almost confirms it not to be a great bass, collectable novelty because he can, I probably would have one of everything if I could too. To me the only basses worth extra over any other of the same model needs to be one a player is known for or used on a famous record and the actual one not a copy or signature, the stingray used on another one bites the dust would hold more value than one of john deacons many P basses being rarer and used on a worldwide hit for example, an identicle stingray owned by Sting that he has never been seen playing live with or used on a police album for example id pay 0 pence more for than from a seller on basschat.

It's hardly raining on the parade, it's not like you have evidence that they were not playing their instruments or anything, you don't like them we get it.

Ta

Yep I agree booboo, the drum mix is brilliant just listen to how sweetly the hi hats cut through without being ear piercing. Everyone sitting just right in the mix and what they chose to play, Deacon is a master at placing a tasteful run just in that one gap in the song without sounded like a failed lead guitarist!

Even I have to look close to realise the Ray is a five string, which I like, very versatile look for a fiver imo.

Even the guitar amp is wired inline rather than micd up which is why it is side on, I put it right after for visual effect! Lol

The log burner is great, feedback you might say? Electric double bass and electric drum kit so we can go as loud as we like! There is a 1600 watt peavey power amp and a pair of passive Mackie tops for front of house out of shot.

Brilliant, why do we do it?

Crazy how cheap our gear looks under the ghetto tent, there is a few quids worth there, the Jobeky drum kit and control modules alone are worth a fortune yet it all looks like crap from a jumble sale because of the shack, my lighting rig never left the van....

[quote name='HowieBass' timestamp='1403552152' post='2483870'] You need to make an album called 'Sell Out'... [/quote] Ha very good

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1403551259' post='2483854'] PS - Does that say Sue Ryder? Basschat have already raised a lot for them by buying ALL of their old bass stock. [/quote] It was the first thing I thought, well second after wtf! Actually third because second was "what the f*** is that horse doing roaming around!". [quote name='ead' timestamp='1403551699' post='2483864'] Great charity Sue Ryder, I do stuff for them in my spare time. Well done for trying. [/quote] yep im not saying the charity is bad and the organisers were trying their best too. [quote name='lojo' timestamp='1403551912' post='2483867'] Ive done some charity gigs which have been fantastic fun, and some that have not, but arguably there was a decent amount of money raised, so I suppose thats fine, as I thats why we agree to help So I guess the question is, did they raise a decent amount to make your effort worthwhile, by the look of the tarpaulins, I think I know the answer, but I hope I'm wrong? [/quote] £250 I think.

[quote name='Weststarx' timestamp='1403551572' post='2483861'] I must admit that looks hilarious... I now worry about the charity gig we're doing on 4th July.... [/quote] Is there a marquee provided? Lol

[quote name='HowieBass' timestamp='1403551189' post='2483852'] Is it my eyes or does the front of the kick drum say 'Judas Trio'? Divine retribution? Nice basses by the way! [/quote] That is our tongue in cheek bit of fun as the band is made of judases (judi judass judas'?) Lol

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1403550859' post='2483848'] Can't blame you for trying to do a decent thing but maybe the organisers would have thought about it a bit more if you had charged them something.. I am getting the idea that they maybe didn't respect your effort much which makes it a bit galling. We tend to take a stance that maybe appear to be arrogant to a degree..?? but it is something like, we aren't 'amateurs' so don't treat us as such. This is why we try and sound them out with what they are providing. Something that sorts the men from the boys is Beer festival P.A's, for example. If we spec that and they agree, then we know they have done their homework... Stage size, etc etc ... if events want everything free, then alarms bells tend to ring...sorry to say. [/quote] It was a proper home made effort which we knew to be fair but how hard is it to at least find a flat bit of ground and two extension reels? Some charity gigs I have done have been arranged by people I know that provide and mix the pa, very good engineers with great gear those are possibly still worth doing but even then often the gig is poorly attended or it rains.

[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1403550029' post='2483841'] Good on you for apparently seeing the funny side of it. At least the weather seems to have been on your side. [/quote] If it had rained that would have topped it off!

So we agreed to a charity gig, it was last night so a sunday, fail 1, miles away, fail 2, meant to be a marquee on site, massive fail 3. Even with a huge field at a football club we ended up on a slope next to the changing rooms where we couldnt be seen, no one was interested in a live band and clearly planned to go home as soon as the match finished regardless of how good or bad we were going to be, utter waste of my sunday night. I have agreed to a charity gig in september that is indoor and local but it will be my last ever im affraid no matter how good a cause it is, I know other musicians who have the same policy but I have been lucky to only do a few each year really, this was my worst gig ever. [URL=http://s997.photobucket.com/user/stingraypete/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-06/20140622_183544_zpswrv3yd3y.jpg.html][IMG]http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af100/stingraypete/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-06/20140622_183544_zpswrv3yd3y.jpg[/IMG][/URL] I cant see how anyone could have made a good job of it?

I saw Richard Bona live a few years ago, utterly gobsmacked at the ability he has, do I wish he had been in Queen 30 plus years ago? Nope.

Unless you know how to set pedals up well trying to get the same sound in a live gig mix is hard, I cant so I dont, Flea cant but he still does, and I am a Flea fan! Once you have all that shizzle before the DI the engineer is fighting a losing battle before you even begin, clean input and DI then add the pedals to the FX loop and let the engineer mic the amp up on a fresh channel so they can be blended together, almost always ending up with nothing but your Jazz bass and a great PA system giving you a awesome sound and a tad of your amp to keep you happy that dragging them along was worth it If that cab and amp cant reproduce the frequencies you want from them then volume will be an issue also IMO, I really would try mixing your amp and cab with some others from a local basschatter and see what is what, if that Ashdown is still muddy to your ears with a modern Neo 2x12 with a horn well you will be joining quite a few people on here than have decided Ashdown is not for them, likewise if it sounds great you know what santa needs to bring you

I use a PA for a band mix, pre EQ on my DI to the desk, middy cutting sound by myself from my amp and a great bottom end to die for out front, I left the ranks of "my sound" and wanting a mic to collect it for a bigger venue long ago. The one thing most MM users will tell you is that almost every venue or recording studio you turn up at with one the sound engineer, will say "cool a Stingray, I always get a good mix when the bassist uses one"

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[quote name='bassman344' timestamp='1402593985' post='2475161'] Do I remember correctly that he used a Musicman stingray to record another one bites the dust ? Not that it matters that much, it's just that he is remembered usually more as a P player. [/quote] Lots of Ray use from him.... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI3LAgGBxqU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI3LAgGBxqU[/url] A bit of an early pioneer for the Stingray really, lots of the hits of that era were on a Ray.

Nobody going to mention the (looks discontinued?) S.U.B 14 which is/was the SUB version of the USA Sterling but a Sterling made by musicman version of the EBMM Sterling or something similar......Lol what a bunch of idiots the marketing dept are My go to bass is a ceramic loaded Ray 5, thats the got the selector switch and pickup of the Sterling (USA ones!) but the preamp of a 3 EQ ray, it weights a shade less than my Transit van I use for work, it was a fretless 2007 model and now has a 2004 fretted neck but I love it! The as new 2011 Alnico equipped one and the stunning Classic 5 with a John east preamp are my backups, not a bad situation really