stingrayPete1977

Great gear is genz , they will be a household name in the future, oh hang on enter Fender marketing.........

The op has the older version like mine I think, is there really much difference between the new and old version do you think, also I have run my 9.2 max with both channels on, both with bass boosted, top rolled off, global LF engaged and bass boosted on a Ray5, played on the B string muted and dubby, f***in Jayzus you couldnt play a gig like that so either the op has smoked a huge spliff and cracked out some huge dubstep lines or something else is going on imo?

That bloody bass whisperer, he has cost me three genz heads, two genz cabs and a Classicray5

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1383943803' post='2271213'] Very true. I once sorted a great on-stage sound, deep but punchy. Went out front, total mush, just like a wall of rumbling. Now I set up a slightly nasally sound which I have to say I don`t like soloed that much, but it fits exactly in the place I want in the mix - not underneath, nor screaming out here I am. Mids are your friend in gettiing the bass where you want it, not lows. [/quote] Yep, my on stage sound is terrible, if I have foh I make it even worse, a tone I can hear but not the one id want the pa to reproduce, hence the clean di at all times for me

Im not sure whats what exactly as far as the drivers are concerned, wheres Gareth musicman20 when you need him? Thing is I cant see it being the cab not producing the lows so another cab with more low capability (im not doubting the faital drivers you talk of) will make no difference at all imo.

Jake really liked my Yita bow, he confirmed my suspicion that it is my awful technique that is to blame rather than the bow, of course Jake gave me a few pointers which should get me going though.

Why no hat though?

Cheeky snap from the open mic jam last night [url="http://s997.photobucket.com/user/stingraypete/media/FB_IMG_13838649900911918_zpsd0ca810a.jpg.html"][/url] Terrible picture sorry! totally unplugged affair last night which hid my intonation well

Thats a very pretty bass aint it

[quote name='jakenewmanbass' timestamp='1383870596' post='2270375'] Always worth pointing out that I travel about the country a fair old amount so I'm happy to give one offs as I did for Pete here: http://basschat.co.uk/topic/221723-just-had-my-first-lesson-with-jake/page__pid__2270370#entry2270370 [/quote] I cant really add anything to your already glowing feedback section other than thanks and already looking forward to another lesson when our paths cross again, I just wish I lived near enough to commute once a month. Brilliant

[quote name='stevie' timestamp='1383928952' post='2270984'] If you're prepared to do a bit of research and ask a few questions, your best bet might be to upgrade your drivers to something like the Faital12fh500, assuming you like the Genz cab. These, I believe, are the ones in the top-of-the-range Vanderkleys and probably not a million miles away from what Barefaced is using now: http://www.lean-business.co.uk/eshop/faitalpro-12fh500-8ohm-12-500watt-pa-speaker-p-1174.html You'll be able to sell the drivers that are currently in the cab to reduce the overall cost of the exercise. [/quote]I dont think the cab is holding back the lows and some gb cabs are already faital loaded anyway.

[quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1383908703' post='2270603'] I may have missed some detail in this but what happened to have you fork up the full amount before completion? I have only recently got into custom stuff and every time it's been a case of pay a deposit and then the rest upon completion, and I've actually seen a picture of my item before I have paid the rest off. [/quote] I hate to be a pedant (or do I,lol) but we had fookin pages and pages about Barefaced taking the final payment money well over a month or two in advance of delivery, thankfully I gather everyone did get their cabs and Alex is conquering the world as planned

As much as it sucks it can and does happen to all brands from time to time, I recall that bent stingray neck about a year ago as in side to side! Id go with Dingus and judge them by their actions in the long run, hopefully it will still be your dream bass with a tale of great customer service

I'll be honest I'm not great at setting up my eq either even after all these years, i guess it's why there are lots of crap sounds guys about,i have read on here many times that person x has been doing sound at gigs for twenty years, imo it guarantees nothing! It's a funny thing because you might find reducing the bass actually gives you a bigger Fuller deeper sound as the power is left to cope with more audible frequencies, the Genz shuttles are shelved at 80 hz normally and i think 37hz with the LF light on, generally anything lower than that is just air movement and speaker damage! I use the same cab with a five string active bass without the cab getting even close to it's bottom end limit,i think you need to tweak something?

Crazy, so that's basically the same as my classicray5 for two grand less?!

[quote name='jimcroisdale' timestamp='1383909776' post='2270637'] And the what now? :-) [/quote] If your amps eq has a shelf let's say at a minimum of 40hz then any frequencies below that won't be sent to the cab so you could buy a 4x18 cab only to find it has no more low end than the 2x12, i strongly suspect this is the case also if you are setting your amp with that much low it will be sucking the wattage too which won't help by the sounds of things. A streamliner and Genz neox 2x12 flat out on the bass control and volume control sounds like a gig i don't want to be at

Is it possible the in built bass shelving will already be holding the bass back further than the cab?

Where is ebs freak? I believe he stopped using a 650 in favour of a 350 with no issues and he needs a lot of head room because he is a tickler, lol. That said he is all in ears and the ebs rig is just a stage dressing!

The poles off centre thing has lots of flaws, the volume drop is only as the string tension and damping is occurring, try holding the string bent right between poles and pluck it there, it makes no difference at all. Play a solo and bend the strings on a strat to see how it makes no difference there and what about angled pickups that are used straight or angled? The magnet damping the string because the pickup is too close because of people trying to raise the g volume is the chief suspect, lower the whole pickup right down and raise the treble end until it gives a nice clear output with no magnet damping then in a band setting (most important imo) raise or lower the bass side until the bass has an even output, simples as annoying people say

That's exactly my problem, ideally a monthly two hour lesson would keep me ticking along nicely, ok a weekly one would be better but work and life gets in the way so i will take a month or two to implement each thing I'm taught. Fingers crossed Jake will be passing through early next year so he can call in again and see if I'm improving.

So can I mate , lol

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1383827775' post='2269602'] I am amused at the idea that a review of a touring show would read.... '....superb vocals from Ruthie Henshaw and the dancers were fabulous but the one thing that let the whole thing down was that the pit orchestra was using a fretless bass player instead of a fretted. The tragic undermining of the musical integrity of 'We Will Rock You' (Queen bass player John Deacon always used a fretted) was tantamount to heresy and the offending musician should be piloried and never work in this town again. Ruthie! Insist on a pick!!' [/quote] I was just about to point out how many Queen songs are recorded on fretless even if he didnt play fretless often live, I have been learning to read with the Queen book and it states which songs are fretless, lots of them and they sound great for it IMO. I heard this on the radio the other day and it too has a fretless vibe to me in places? Hard to say as Deacy is a master of doing just what we are talking about where you can make it sound just like a fretted if you dont slide about. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqct2SGoDE0[/media] Fat Bottomed Girls, Bicycle Race,Crazy Little Thing Called Love,Play The Game,Under Pressure etc etc all Fretless

Jake gave me a lesson last night and thought the Gedo I have was a decent bass for £1000 thereabouts including delivery, bow (german and going on ebay!) bag and even a pot of pops rosin. He made it sound very good anyway

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1383832366' post='2269723'] I've heard rumours the 3.0 may well may a come back with Fender. [/quote] Good because they are great, no fan either so prefect for home practice!

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1383837611' post='2269810'] Not another Jake's brill thread? I am going to have to merge them AGAIN!! [/quote] Yep