stingrayPete1977

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Ah that's not good mate

I have about a years worth of listening already, but I like it, next thing the Spiros will be coming off for a set of weedwackers

smashed broken and mangled or just worn out over time its all the same and ruins our bass playing! Hope it fixes soon Samashton. I dont think it has failed as such Milty, it may have been that far through when they did it or maybe the bone has shrunk back a few mm after the healing, either way its defo poking the sharp end out at 45 degrees into the wrist joint. I was happy enough to leave the plate in but it does cause me trouble as I can feel the tendons running over it and it hurts when the humidity changes in either direction so even if the screw is not causing all my problems it should solve some of them. How's the leg anyway?

[quote name='wrinkleygit' timestamp='1373114769' post='2133858'] think you have misread my post you need to check the relief at the mid point between the first fret & the point where the neck joins the body, on most instruments this would be around the 7-9th fret [/quote] Ah I see what you are saying now yes I still prefer to hold down between the 1st and 12th fret, I dont use a gauge either as I find getting that area to the point just after it would choke is as good as any neck can ever be without a microtilt adjustment or a shim. Like I said before everyones tastes are different so if you like the typical Fender manual settings for string height and releif etc then my way will probably end up too straight anyway.

I still like Bill though

So much to learn just on this genre and all its sub genres! I wish I had gone to the DB ten years ago now

Bongo 5, SR5, ClassicRay5 or a Nathan East 5.....you cant miss

Got your pm mate, no problem at all shame you are in Cardiff rather than north Wales as that is not so far really, nice deal on the new set up from cash convertors too

The CD I have is a collection including must of the artists you mentioned with some cool early Elvis stuff too but it's Bill I like the most by far, I'd grow a quiff but I'm bald!

I cant decide if I am a massive fan of Rock and Roll or just of Billy Haley and the Comets? I have bought a cd to get me in the zone to try and build up my choices for rock and roll style bass lines but I mainly like all the Bill Haley stuff, Burn that candle, what a tune!

By the time you would notice any movement on frets near the neck joint the hump around the 7th fret would be massive though, or possibly even buggered the truss rod. The way of adjusting 40 years ago wont allow for some of the super low actions some people like these days, I am lucky that I dont mind a bit of height but I know loads of players that would find even a business card to be classed as high action!

Sorry missed your post Milty. Update then, good and bad news really, had some more x-rays done a couple of weeks ago and it turns out that the diagonal screw that holds the piece of bone on has gone right through and is now sticking out into the crease of my wrist joint which may go some way to explaining the pain at that point! So the good news is that rather than the full ulnar shortening op that would of put me back to day one bass wise and 3 months off work is not being done but the plate that was staying in for life is now coming back out in September, two weeks off work and I am hoping to be able to play bass within a few weeks too? Hopefully that will be the end of it after some more physio to see if they can get me some more strength and movement back as it has stalled completely now so I am not going back until after the op, if I am still having trouble after that then it might be back to the shortening op and from the pronounced lump on that side plus where the pain is coming from I can see that might still happen, if it does I will be up to at least two years from start to finish from the day of the break (nov 2012) to the last physio visit after op number three which would not be until next spring plus three months off and three months of physio again (after that op it will be cast again so it will be back to the start as if I have just broke it again!) ahhhh

[quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1373098266' post='2133643'] I've always used the last fret but will now try this method as it does seem to make sense Before making a final decision I may head off and ask MDP for his advice [/quote] No dont do that! I will also try the other method of last fret but you can see what I am saying as the last bit of the neck never moves anyway so the only thing other than major router work is either a shim to tip the neck up at the body end if the lowest possible truss rod setting is still too high for a low action or just a playable action on a bad bass, or raising the saddles if the neck is already too high in the pocket compared to the bridge when the desired relief is set. Everyone has a personal taste too so lots of relief but a fairly low saddle height suits some folk even if its technically not right, quite a few people I know would hate a bass set to the [i]perfect[/i] Fender factory settings!

I have recently sold all my 4 string basses, factor in all of the reasons in favour above plus a wrist injury and the 5 strings are staying with me now and I will never go back! Go for it Im not a Dingwall fan but in this case I would say a 5 string Dingwall should at least be worth trying before it is ruled out, it could be just the thing for you?

This thread left me wondering how many others check at the last fret as all the top setter uppers (thats a technical term you know) use the 12th fret, I found this link which goes into great detail about checking at the 1st and last fret of the neck, it even has a photo with the explanation of where to check at the first and last fret below it yet clearly shows the guy using my method of no capo and the 12th fret [url="http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/repair/acoustic-guitar/truss-rod.php"]http://www.fretnotgu...r/truss-rod.php[/url] I think its best to get the neck right from the 12th up to the nut then try a straight edge against the whole neck, if the releif then becomes too much overall it needs a shim at the neck joint before doing anything else, testing and adjusting at the last fret wont help as the truss rod wont alter that end of the neck and in some cases will actually hump up or ruin the neck if you go too far, thankfully mine have always gone back down after releasing the tension but I have seen plenty of humps around the 10th fret or so, no adjusting saddle screws will get you over a hump!

never really noticed, same as nut width, board radius, scale length etc, I pick it up and play it then if I like it I buy it and gig it

The bass of champions!

I guess if you haven't done a gig after best part of a year then something was wrong, could be lots of reasons other than you but either way it sounds like a dead end? Get in a new band and get out there

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I press down the first fret with my left hand then press down the 12th fret with my right thumb, using the right index finger I like to be just able to get a note to ring, too bouncy needs less relief and choked needs a bit of releif adding. The capo is a good idea but I have never needed to use one, I have never heard anyone pressing down the last fret to check the relief always the 12th IME? or am I reading it wrong?

[quote name='fatgoogle' timestamp='1372865699' post='2130907'] Next you know you'll be taking your next solo with the bow. [/quote]

[quote name='jakenewmanbass' timestamp='1372853662' post='2130684'] I'll take you on with my tongue firmly in my cheek.... Any good DB teacher will present classical technical facility as a joy to learn and as a really seriously good background to act as a platform for any style you may choose. My classical training is limited, I mostly teach people jazz stuff on bass, if they want to go further with classical I say find an orchestral player/teacher, but ask any student of mine, I'm a stickler for technique and doing it right, all of which comes from classical tradition, mainly because poor technique is so limiting musically and leaves you prone to injury. Where bowing is concerned, it will give you the best intonation 'nuff said. I basically agree that you want a teacher that can show you things you're interested in, but when taking up DB I think it's worth understanding that what you're getting into first is the instrument... what you can do with it comes a little way along the line. Pete, I have a mate in Stone who I visit from time to time, if you'd like me to let you know when I'm in the area (usually 2 or 3 times a year) I'd be happy to give you one offs. I get good feedback for my lessons, (I'm a bass nerd) so feel free to PM [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/6270-jakesbass-jakesbass-and-thrice-jakesbass/"]http://basschat.co.u...rice-jakesbass/[/url] Also Doddy is in your area, I think he plays upright, failing that there are a few guys in Manchester and I'm sure the same is true of Birmingham. edit... ah just re read your OP re Doddy... [/quote] Yeah shame about Doddy, cheek of him going and getting a regular paying gig instead of giving me a lesson once a month Drop me a pm next time you are coming up this way mate as I would love an hour or two off you, I am not far from Stone at all.

There is Classic because its good and Classic because its what people see on TV so that is what they want, Ashdown with any Fender being the main ones I am thinking? I fell for the good enough for so and so must be good then heard all the brands I had never seen or heard of before

[quote name='FLoydElgar' timestamp='1372789381' post='2130062'] Contact tutors of the Royal northern college or birmingham conservatory! Liverpool Phil etc.. [/quote] Would they teach a Plonker like me? I know the foundation for techniques are the same but I'm probably better off with a jazzer or blues player I guess?