stingrayPete1977

Even Leo Fender cocked this up on the Stingray after builing basses for more than 35 years!

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1356301320' post='1909060'] Yes, but we are talking about a school where an old priest came into our classroom one day and said "You's are all working away like blacks". I mean, he was fairly old, but holy hell, what a thing to say to a bunch of impressionable kids! believe me, having the un-PC terms for the principle/headmistress/ head teacher whatever, was the least of the schools worries! [/quote] Maybe you misread him and he was in fact impressed with the black pupils work ethic and thought you were all slackers?! Benefit of the doubt but probably just a rascist old get.

Hey don't get upset guys! Its just one of those terms that has crept in, I was poking fun that's all. Now get on the sidewalk and get me a diet soda! So this dick in the pub has created 11 pages of chat then!

Vice principle, so this was in America then?

Credit card-bass direct-no more lugging heavy gear-joy

I can't imagine how great that would be! As a newcomer to upright and Gary Karr is there a cd I really should get hold of?

[quote name='BILL POSTERS' timestamp='1356274848' post='1908631'] S funny innit, maybe it cause its your local pub. Half a dozen people in the room, especially if I know any by sight it takes me a while to loosen up. A packed house full of paying strangers, and I hardly notice they are there. [/quote] +1

It's like riding a bike!

[quote name='MandShef' timestamp='1356257082' post='1908386'] He was your teacher? That's fabulous! He always looks like he's enjoying himself, and makes it all look so effortless doesn't he? [/quote] It amazes me how much range the upright can cover when played by him, deep lows up to almost violin like tones, beautiful!

2 and 5 are the line connections, 3 is the ringer connection from the master point to all the others (slaves), 2 and 5 must be the right way around or the line will appear to work fine but no one will be able to make your phone ring! If you are using a set of wireless phones then only the main unit that plugs in needs a master point as the base will tell the others when to ring. 4 core will probably be blue with a white flash and the opposite plus orange with a white flash and visa versa, blues normally go to 2 and 5 so remove the cable from three and put it with the blue with a white stripe and do the same with its orange counter part and double it up with the white with a blue stripe and its done, if you want to make both points able to ring a handset then fit a master to the extra point (s). Top and bottom is 2 and 5 are the line 3 is the ringer from the master point between all slaves. For anyone still awake or curious the master has a capcitor that charges up as someone calls you then discharges down the line to number 5 (I think if not 2) via the bell in the old handsets making it ring, years ago only a few phones could be fed off one capacitor but as the modern phones have little piezos or just tells your digital hands free set to play the simpsons theme or whatever its not really an issue anymore. There you go how off topic can you get?

pre eb ray with mutes on , bass on full treble off, played near the end of the fingerboard certainly would change a few opinions on the actives typical sound

I only see that in the lower end of the scale which is inevitable, bottom of the range passive 21 frets solid colours etc going up through to active controls and trans colours or laminate tops etc, all those things cost money. Once you go up to sadowsky or Alleva etc all that is left behind ime.

That's not directed soley at you Ki0gon btw but I guess you are included

Artificially awesome is fine by me it always makes me chuckle with these threads that people say they have never had any problem getting enough treble from their gear so there is no need for active basses or tweeters etc then in their sig they have an array of fenders probably on flats played through an ashdown rig! As for the op Each to their own so you either need to find a passive bass you like or find an active one and gut it, which has variable results ime. I have never seen active basses as being higher end ever in fact most of the passive basses I have tried in recent times have been expensive ones, how much is a circuit to the manufacturers £2?

I think most independant shops will do it if you ask, I have done it in the past when I was at school/college to stop me spending the money. Obviously be aware that we are in uncertain economic times, 3 of our local shops have got white wash over the windows and no sign of any instruments anymore which is not good if they owe you money or a bass! One of those tins that you cant get the cash out of unless you use a can opener might work?

You cant play Arco on a P bass you know

This morning I have combined reading and practicing on the upright, Roxanne by the Police works quite well and I can pretty much (sort of) sight read that now too. Plenty of time to try and intonate each note properly. Next up from the same book Lay down Sally by Clapton, now it took me a while to realise its in half time then it improved, much harder to play as its up and down the neck much more so fingering choice is a bit more complex but its good for getting me to learn the scale difference as you go up the fingerboard, funny thing is I could probably jam that on the upright now already if I kept to the simple version of a sort of swing 12 bar thing, this is where some knowledge makes learning harder Lunch break and dog walk to let the brain cool off now

[quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1356175445' post='1907612'] Why does every thread with the trigger words "active" and/or "passive" turn into an "active vs. passive" debate regardless of the question posed by the OP? [/quote] What else is there to say about the op? some companies make only passive others only active most make both because, and heres the bit that answers your question, some people like passive some people like active some people like both.

I have had a cab with a wide mesh grill with big diamond slots in it that somehow got a pen lid lost in their! took a bit of understanding but fixed by tipping it up until in fell out very strange noise I can tell you.

Even my upright is active

[quote name='cocco' timestamp='1356167282' post='1907509'] There's something missing in the tone of active basses in my opinion. I can't put my finger on what though. I've had a few actives in my time, from stingrays to shukers and every one has had something missing. [/quote] And I feel exactly the opposite! dull and lack lustre for me and I have tried all sorts of stuff trust me. I am not really that much of a treble fan but rarely have I tried a passive bass with any bite in the top end. My amps have active EQ's on them so they make any bass sound good really but climbing over a drum kit mid song to add a bit of treble/bass because the room is filling up or emptied and changed how it sounds is no fun either!

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Yeah I like that! Reminds me of the Joe Satriani Ibanez guitars from the 90's with the rounded body edges, very classy without being a coffee table bass

Its just you three though boost bass , mid if applicable on the detent, treble just on the plus side of the detent every time. Amp flat.

Musicman20 is a bit shy with his bass control I too run bass flat out on all four of my rays