stingrayPete1977

[quote name='Prunesquallor' timestamp='1355160853' post='1894838'] Exactly my point. Although he didn't like using Stingrays in the studio, he used them live because he liked the tone. But when he found the Modulus he didn't need the Stingrays for live use either. [/quote] Then released his own stingray copy so rubbish and over priced he had to return to modulus once more

It wouldn't be a skyline, you know me better than that

I like the 1.0mm black dunlops

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1355143235' post='1894506'] Sadowsky use the wheel , but Lakland use a conventional truss rod nut . Just to expand upon the point about EBMM necks , I saw an interview with John Myung's bass tech on Youtube recently ( Premier Guitar Channel ) and he was explaining how he has to adjust the truss rod on Myungs Bongo basses during the course of a show as they move and affect his action just from the change in temperature and humidity during the gig. [/quote] Re Lakland I meant the overall bass which are very ray like and very nice too, probably something I'd concider swapping to if I lost the ray love, that or a Modulus funk5.

Brilliant! I wired Jim Lea's boiler just a few weeks ago, he wasn't in

The 10 years of using a Ray is more than many bands last to be fair although I can see where the graphite neck could come in for touring, on the flip side many many pro players with huge big shows manage just fine with ebmm basses so maybe flea is just a big girl! If I was a bass tech I'd be happy to see any bass with a wheel of fortune over anything else graphite rod or not, which brings it back to the neck construction idea being an issue when I'm sure other big names derived from mm use the same method, I'm thinking sadowsky and lakeland for a start, a few years ago the names to have in the pro scene?

All the fenders i have known have needed just the same truss rod adjustments at the same time of year, just a lot easier to do on a musicman

Could just save lugging all your fx gear and get an old hh cab and crank it up then , probably sound the same! I have gone the other way and gone super clean, must be my age, damn kids and their punk rock and 8 track players

[quote name='Basskiller666' timestamp='1355095511' post='1894082'] Thanks Mr Foxen I will give that a try, Although I do already have that pulled down quite low, btw the lowest slider is 33Hz. So do you think If my amp is set up right my 300w cab should be able to handle it? [/quote] Do you play a five string? Humans ears don't work that low anyway.

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1355094672' post='1894066'] The above is sound advice, Mr F knows his stuff! But personally I'd always be way too paranoid to use a cab that isn't rated as high or higher than my amp [/quote] Plenty of people use amps way over their cabs rating, I'm one for a start as are quite a few folk with 900watt heads I guess? How many people on this site alone have a genz streamliner 900 and a single neox 2x12T for a start? (I have a shuttlemax 9.2 and a neox cab) the ratings are a nonsense on most stuff anyway, use the old lug holes I say

I'm not a massive fender fan nor an ebmm fan boy but tbf to sterling ball he has added some features that maybe Leo would of over time and with extra funding ie contoured bodies, 6 bolt neck, wheel of fortune truss rod adjustment (best invention in the past 30 years on a bass?) Flip out battery box etc yet most people say they can't tell the difference from early pre eb versions which is good as it shows a steady improvement, what have fender done? Reissues all with the same niggles and a high mass bridge which 12 threads each 7 pages long tell us does nothing anyway The Fender fans will tell us it's because the p and j are perfect and always were but it's why people often site the ray as a more solid and pro feeling bass

As much as fender fans would deny it obviously Leo knew what niggles needed getting rid of when he designed it so things like the bit of scratchplate that always snaps off p basses was addressed right away with a big chunk of chrome that's going no where for example.

[quote name='ianhowardbass' timestamp='1355077010' post='1893748'] Gotta say that the build of Musicman is so much better than Fender. I've got an SR5 and 2 American Fender basses, and the Stingray is amazing. [/quote] I simply couldn't comment

True, glad I have two of each then

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1355062577' post='1893491'] The enduring appeal of Musicman Stingrays is undeniable , but it has always been a sought after model and the prices are still relatively low on the whole because it's easy to get a new one or a used one , whatever you fancy . If Stingrays had their legendary reputation but were hard to find items made in small numbers and scarcely available then they would rocket in price . Imagine if EBMM hadn't bought the Music Man patent and all production had ceased in 1983 . The original MM basses would be even more valuable than they are now . [/quote] Or would no one be interested in them at all like lots of other small production run stuff? Ebmm keeping the legend alive keeps people like me gassing for the earlier ones

The only argument with the supply and demand idea is that because more people wanted them in the first place than other brands then as long as that trend continues thenough they will stay popular gas items used too, that's why there are even more fenders which must be over saturated in the market place ten times over compared to rays but as they are probably on most people's wanted list from their first bass lesson it levels out. Gibson basses to me appear less desirable by and large and although there are less of them available there are less folk with their wallets out for them too which keeps the values down. Supply and demand again I guess so it really depends just like we said about sandberg who is in the limelight over the next few years.

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1355010347' post='1893036'] Well now a normal Stingray H is £1400+ new, it will change the market over the next 5 years or so. [/quote] My 02 I traded was £1295 new, list was even more yet my house has tripled in value!

Well if your work colleueges are the rest of the band it's a bit tricky to hide! As for my other job lots of them have been to see me play or even booked various bands I have been in for their own events etc

Just bagged one off eBay for £40!

Trouble is that's loads of confusing models, for many many years musician had only a handful of models with the stingray being popular from the off and no squier, Mexican, skyline, budget versions available which cemented them just like the fender p and j as proper basses that were identical to the ones we saw on the tv, someone probably as famous as me owns the stingray made one serial number either side of fleas bssm era bass for example, sandberg are probably too accommodating to get a known model firmly set in people's minds

Loving it!

I was going to start a thread about the big one as I'm about to get one, nearly went for the mini until I realised (was told) it only works off a power supply! Looks like everyone is happy with their big ones though? If so Santa best pop one in his sack!

I haven't tried any uber cabs but I've never heard a bad comment about them. Anyone else got any pics then?

That looks well classy, love it!