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The cable doesn't have a variable resistance at ambient temperature, a simple resistance test with a good multi meter is all you need, if a tone pot adds 500k ohms you'd need to see lets say 5kohms of difference between leads being generous to hear a difference, thats the equivalent of 58 kilometers of Klotz cable, 58 kilometers!

A lead will have a resistance measured in ohms, good ones have very little resistance where cheap or damaged cables will have a higher resistance, if you want to hear high mids, extra punch etc go for it but any fully functioning lead of a standard length with fully functioning jack sockets either end will make no difference to the tone, you could only make it worse by adding more legth to the cable, having 'much' thinner cable cores or badly contacting jacks/solder joints. There is only two ways a Monster cable could sound different; 1- faulty. 2- they've put an inline resistor in them to block certain frequencies. Klotz guitar cable has a spec of less than 85ohms PER KILOMETRE!!! a P bass tone pot has a value of between 250k and 500k, thats more than 2 miles of cable worth of resistance, lol.

[quote name='pfretrock' timestamp='1510157605' post='3404362'] No, just 3 for 2 offer on Craft Beer. [/quote] Barrels of too I think

[quote name='gafbass02' timestamp='1510154326' post='3404336'] Copied and pasted from a post of mine from 2010: Funnily enough fellow basschatter davemuadib and I spent a geeky afternoon A/Bing cables back to back. We did obbm, (klotz) monster bass, elixir, zaolla, generic cheapo and hotlines. Long story short monster had a VERY obvious, pronounced low mid hump which made em sound deeper and punchier but at the expense of top end sparkle and clarity. Zaolla sounded superb, very neutral and open but with depth and solidity. Obbm sounded very similar to the zaolla, slightly less zingy and airy but very close nonetheless. Just not quite as 'expensive' sounding. The elixir was also good and very flat sounding but a tad uninteresting. The hotlines (old academy of sound cables) were still great I remembered why I liked em. Very punchy and forward sounding, a bit like a loudness button going in. The zaolla, monster and elixir were thicker and the zaolla felt the best made. The hotlines and obbm cables felt lighter and thinner. Since doing the test I've retired my monster cables to back ups and bought all obbm's which I'm very pleased with. The transparency goes well with the berg cabs and they are cheaper than zaolla! I still rate monster and never had any issues with them. People that say there are no differences between cables should def spend an afternoon doing some A/B listening to a few brands. It's pretty big differences in some cases, less in others. The biggest difference was the monsters bass boost/(treble cut) to my ears. Maybe Dave will chip in ? But the differences are there for all to hear! Simply no doubt about that. But onstage with all the rest of the band going ? Well there lies the real debate ;-) I just like to know my stuff sounds good and is reliable. :-D Edited by gafbass02, 24 October 2010 - 05:26 PM. [/quote] Was it April 1st 2010?

I won't use the planet waves with the metal spring ring thing, they ruin your Jack sockets.

There's too much latency with curly leads and you can hear the music whooshing around the loops if you play really fast. Which 9v batteries are best for metal?

[quote name='bonzodog' timestamp='1510093159' post='3404014'] Does it really matter how long it takes as long you've set up in time? Most of our gigs are a 9pm start and we always get there at 7pm and share out the duties at a steady pace. We chat and have a beer while setting up and have it all done for 830 when punters start drifting in. [/quote] Our regular pub gig always has sport on the tv before the gig, football always over runs leaving us about half an hour to set up including moving the gormless people standing in the way watching the tv to watch all the analysis rubbish after! If I was the landlord I'd turn it off as soon as the final whistle blew, they never stay for the music as that's a fresh sober batch of people who start to arrive later.

Or steal a cat 5e cable from work and plug it in directly for free

[quote name='Tubster' timestamp='1510094095' post='3404024'] Total agreement with ACTIVE speakers. Great brands have been suggested already but I would add QSC. Yes, they are £££ but well worth it. RCF great, EV has speakers at all price points, the cheaper ones are highly lauded at their price point . Lower down the price spectrum - Alto and Behringer have some acceptable stuff. Lots of positive suggestions re digital mixers but our experience has been less than great. We had disconnection issues and a total signal loss on a number of channels. Not great for a live band with no sound man. IMHO digital mixers are not ideal for ‘self drive’ bands where the players operate the PA. When they work, they are the schnizzle but when they don’t, it makes for challenges! We will wait for Gen3 or 4. For us, good old analogue is the way to go. There are great deals out there on analogue. Certainly recognise the benefits of digital but....didn’t work for us. Mics, stands and cables need your attention too, especially decent mics. There are so many good choices but not all mics suit all voices - take time to match them. Whatever decision you make - stick to ACTIVE speakers - what a fundamental positive change for pub giggers. [/quote] As I've said before the xair mixer carries on regardless even if you put the ipad in a bucket of water, once set up at the start of the gig you could turn the Wi-Fi off without affecting the gig other than easy access to muting the p.a. when you have a break, which you could do by flipping the switches on the back of each speaker if you really wanted to.

I've got three of these heads in various forms, Little adjustments can make a big difference as it's an active eq, likewise if you have an active bass and boost boost boost everywhere you'll be over doing it. Start with everything pointing straight up and play around, good luck.

^ I think this is your best bet too, used powered tops can be added to with a better desk of any type in future if needed, old passive tops will always require another box of some kind, if you make that a powered desk you are stuck with that.

A slick operation can make functions much easier and learning things like putting guitars and sticks away after sound check make things a lot better, another plus of the digital desk is being able to mute all the outputs on the iPad leaving nothing for guests to turn up or down to do there typical bit on the Mic, Loses all its fun if the pa is off.

I haven't the room to store or the desire to cart around all the heavy old fashioned kit never mind a spare desk and power amp no matter how cheap they are.

The biggest issue with the conventional kit is the lack of redundancy, a powered desk being the worst, dog and duck ten minutes away from a spare one might be ok, an hour each way from a decent paying wedding gig not so much.

I think the 3+1 works well from a marketing point of view along with the oval plate, it's the first thing you see glinting in some Queen videos before the lights come up fully.

I don't mind using that down time to my advantage, if I'm at home I'll be doing something or other where at a wedding gig I don't mind being first there to set up the pa and my kit then I'll sit in the van and read or annoy you lot on here for an hour or two.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1509985185' post='3403036'] Reading through the OP again, I'd say it fits quite well concerning usage and budget. Same band make-up, same venues, similar repertoire, looking for ease of use... Yup, I think it fits quite well... [/quote] The good thing about digital desks and powered speakers is that there are still plenty of people happy to buy the old stuff off anyone thinking of getting some modern kit

That's not really a fair comparison is it?

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1509972918' post='3402922'] ...assuming one has the budget for such things. [/quote] They aren't expensive if you're buying for the first time or replacing/upgrading. I think the xr12 is less than £300? It must have thousands of pounds worth of kit built in too.

[quote name='Geek99' timestamp='1509913205' post='3402594'] Tracy wormworth [/quote] Dave Hofstra actually played on the record, Tracy Wormworth didn't join the band until after the record.

What on earth was the band wearing rain coats about?

There's no 3+2 or 2+3 option for BigRedX.

[quote name='AndyTravis' timestamp='1509891275' post='3402340'] I’ve played about 10 Kay’s in my life. All crap. [/quote] I think either I've played the same ten or we've both been very very unlucky

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1509897157' post='3402397'] I give myself kudos and credibility for all sorts of stuff all the time.😂 I think I was 9 or 10 years old. I had their records and knew I wanted in on all if it. the beat, girls, the cloths, the attention, I wanted to be cool. They opened the door to all that for me. And if history serves right I wasn't alone. Blue [/quote] Yeah I give 'them' kudos for that