stingrayPete1977

I've got three of these heads in various forms, Little adjustments can make a big difference as it's an active eq, likewise if you have an active bass and boost boost boost everywhere you'll be over doing it. Start with everything pointing straight up and play around, good luck.

^ I think this is your best bet too, used powered tops can be added to with a better desk of any type in future if needed, old passive tops will always require another box of some kind, if you make that a powered desk you are stuck with that.

A slick operation can make functions much easier and learning things like putting guitars and sticks away after sound check make things a lot better, another plus of the digital desk is being able to mute all the outputs on the iPad leaving nothing for guests to turn up or down to do there typical bit on the Mic, Loses all its fun if the pa is off.

I haven't the room to store or the desire to cart around all the heavy old fashioned kit never mind a spare desk and power amp no matter how cheap they are.

The biggest issue with the conventional kit is the lack of redundancy, a powered desk being the worst, dog and duck ten minutes away from a spare one might be ok, an hour each way from a decent paying wedding gig not so much.

I think the 3+1 works well from a marketing point of view along with the oval plate, it's the first thing you see glinting in some Queen videos before the lights come up fully.

I don't mind using that down time to my advantage, if I'm at home I'll be doing something or other where at a wedding gig I don't mind being first there to set up the pa and my kit then I'll sit in the van and read or annoy you lot on here for an hour or two.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1509985185' post='3403036'] Reading through the OP again, I'd say it fits quite well concerning usage and budget. Same band make-up, same venues, similar repertoire, looking for ease of use... Yup, I think it fits quite well... [/quote] The good thing about digital desks and powered speakers is that there are still plenty of people happy to buy the old stuff off anyone thinking of getting some modern kit

That's not really a fair comparison is it?

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1509972918' post='3402922'] ...assuming one has the budget for such things. [/quote] They aren't expensive if you're buying for the first time or replacing/upgrading. I think the xr12 is less than £300? It must have thousands of pounds worth of kit built in too.

[quote name='Geek99' timestamp='1509913205' post='3402594'] Tracy wormworth [/quote] Dave Hofstra actually played on the record, Tracy Wormworth didn't join the band until after the record.

What on earth was the band wearing rain coats about?

There's no 3+2 or 2+3 option for BigRedX.

[quote name='AndyTravis' timestamp='1509891275' post='3402340'] I’ve played about 10 Kay’s in my life. All crap. [/quote] I think either I've played the same ten or we've both been very very unlucky

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1509897157' post='3402397'] I give myself kudos and credibility for all sorts of stuff all the time.😂 I think I was 9 or 10 years old. I had their records and knew I wanted in on all if it. the beat, girls, the cloths, the attention, I wanted to be cool. They opened the door to all that for me. And if history serves right I wasn't alone. Blue [/quote] Yeah I give 'them' kudos for that

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1509894464' post='3402364'] I say it does Blue [/quote] You can't give yourself kudos or credibility that has to come from other people. You wern't even a teenager during their popularity!

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1509882328' post='3402253'] the Beatles were never, [i]ever[/i], "just another band". [/quote] I don't disagree with that but none of the people here that feel the need to go on about them were in the band, just being alive in the 60's doesn't gain you any extra kudos no matter how many threads you start

I don't know why we need all these Beatles threads, in fairness we were due one as it's been a while since the last batch but what I always get is that somehow the uber fans want recognition purely for being born at the right time. It's like football fans "we won on Saturday", oh did they have to ask for members of the crowd to play? I'm not patriotic in any way and I think that extends to bands and sports, I like Ducati to win but I don't feel like I need any praise when they do likewise bands I like to go and see, I haven't contributed in any way to their musical output just as Blue didn't as a five or six year old when the Beatles formed. Fwiw I prefer The Kinks

People tend to like these rant type video bloggers until they pick on the thing they like.

[quote name='Nicko' timestamp='1509623690' post='3400360'] Geez, lighten up. Please educate me, surely pumping volume through IEM is the same as using in ear headphones at high volume which is widely believed to contribute to hearing loss. [/quote] A proper iem system will have a protection level to start with then you are blocking all the real air movement and background noise out including the cymbals and replacing it with a processed mix of what the musician wants, in this case a kick drum and a general band mix probably. That focused sound right in the ear will be doing far less harm than all that crashing and bashing you'd get normally.

[quote name='Jakester' timestamp='1509622702' post='3400348'] Hmm, deliberately seeking to damage someone's hearing to make a point? Great idea... [/quote] You've not much knowledge on in ears then?

Wtaf are you lot on about, it's like netmums in here!

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1509537283' post='3399672'] It's when the Elvis mic makes an appearance that things go to shizzle. [/quote] That's banished forever, total junk.

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1509537724' post='3399686'] [URL=http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/h4ppyjack/media/Just%20Stuff/Music%20and%20Musicians/File0505_zps86bda306.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m496/h4ppyjack/Just%20Stuff/Music%20and%20Musicians/File0505_zps86bda306.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/h4ppyjack/media/Just%20Stuff/Music%20and%20Musicians/File0401_zpse724801e.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m496/h4ppyjack/Just%20Stuff/Music%20and%20Musicians/File0401_zpse724801e.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [/quote] What's that on your head?