stingrayPete1977

At the risk of repeating myself, if you purchase something for a 'fair' price in good faith then you have a right to raise the matter before a civil court and ownership or reasonable claim will be considered? ^ This is the only part I'm disputing, in some very very unusual cases regarding valuable items over large periods of time then very possibly, an amp in cash converters where the OP has a receipt with a serial number from PMT I really hope common sense will prevail!

[quote name='GreeneKing' timestamp='1494931019' post='3299626'] Apologies for getting a little aerated. All i'm trying to say is that if you have been a genuine buyer then you needn't be out of pocket if the goods turn out to be stolen as you can make a claim against the seller. [/quote] No problem, so no case for ownership etc as you previously posted

https://www.netlawman.co.uk/ia/selling-goods-non-owner#Seller in possession after sale This sums it up as clearly as possible imo and for all but the most complicated of cases as long as you can prove the goods are yours you'll be handed them back and the buyer, in this case cash converters, lose out and need to take up the dispute with the person that bought them in.

[quote name='GreeneKing' timestamp='1494929282' post='3299598'] Yes I'm bloody well lying. I was never a police officer and I haven't experience of exactly this in real life. I come on here just to cause annoyance and wind people up! Ferrchrissakes......... [/quote] I've had real life experience on the other end Peter, if only my solicitor had been a police officer before law school I'd have been £4k better off now then

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1494928848' post='3299593'] Exactly. I've heard of people having cars taken off them a couple of years after buying them when the 'real' owner has tracked it down. [/quote] Yes I've added another link from a solicitors site. The person who had a pedal board turn up in a CC got it back there and then, it belongs to him and he proved it.

[quote name='GreeneKing' timestamp='1494926386' post='3299568'] The original owner is protected in law, as are other people who assume ownership in fair circumstances. It isn't as simple absolute ownership for the original owner only. I thought as you until I came into these issues as a serving police officer. It would be for a civil court to decide. There may be a long chain of owners as in say an old P bass that is discovered to have been stolen say 45 years ago. It doesn't naturally follow that the person it was stolen from can take it back if it was purchased at a fair price in good faith, possibly many times over. [/quote] I honestly think your giving out false info, try buying a car in good faith that's got finance outstanding on it, even after a few owners it belongs to the finance company and always did, its for that reason that the v5 for a car says "not proof of ownership" just registered keeper, it's the receipt that proves ownership. The civil case would be between you and the person you bought it off, them and who they got it from etc etc, you have no legal rights to it at all, the insurance company might offer you the car at a reasonable price after carrying out a valuation but they don't have to. http://www.hastingsandco.co.uk/litigation/2014/01/31/stolen-goods/ https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/somethings-gone-wrong-with-a-purchase/if-you-think-youve-bought-stolen-goods/

[quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1494917690' post='3299480'] Following. As much as people say check CC and the like I've never really heard of folks finding their gear at one. So will be interested to see what happens now. [/quote] There been a few cases just on this site, the last time the store knew full well that the person selling the stuff was a criminal.

Cake and musicman what's not to like! Happy birthday, I'm not far behind you

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1494876050' post='3299262'] I find it annoying you can't leave it plugged in , I like leaving a bass set up in my office [/quote] It doesn't take long to plug the Jack back in really does it?

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1494678166' post='3297786'] No stamina, no technique, lousy intonation etc etc. [/quote] Have you been to my gigs?

I've seen so many bands with these specific bass tones trying to explain to the sound crew that it must be micd not di, at a push blended, rarely does that perfect tone work out front, as various pedals are bought in and out the bass goes from inaudible to overpowering and the poor sound guy is faced with trying to second guess what's happening, how does he (I'm saying he as I've never met a lady sound engineer!) know that you bring in the sub octave and phazer in the second verse for 4 bars? A couple of patches can work but rarely is there time to level 25 patches, especially if it's operator won't budge on reducing the level on a patch because that's set for his amp regardless of it ruining the mix out front.

I did try to explain to Alex once after some claim about making a light weight version of an ampeg fridge but at the same time fixing all it's issues that people enjoy the issues,it's human nature, if we didn't have that inside us then the experts could just make a bass,amp and cab that is 'the best'.

[quote name='SpondonBassed' timestamp='1494855359' post='3299023'] Heeheehee. Nice to see we agree on some things then Pete. I'd like to see their show live, if not actually attend one. [/quote] Ha! I shall look into them more when I get time.

Yes I thought they were great!

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1494850772' post='3298944'] They're hiring a self-employed music teacher. This is the whole point of portability of the DBS check, and the update service. Again, a quote: [color=#515151][size=4] [size=4][i]The DBS Update Service lets you keep your DBS certificates up to date online and allows employers to check a certificate status at any time.[/i][/size][/size][/color][color=#515151][size=4] [size=4][i]This system means that whenever you start work with a new employer or contractor, rather than applying for a brand new DBS Certificate, the employer can go to the DBS website to confirm if anything has changed on your record since your last certificate.[/i][/size][/size][/color] [/quote] The start of that section on the site clarifies again that you are only allowed a basic check as a self employed person which as you say isn't good enough.

https://www.ucheck.co.uk/dbs-checks-for-the-self-employed/ I suppose this sums up what you are saying ambient, the school are taking the word of the MU on it, as long as the school have ticked the box and saved money on doing the check themselves they are happy to go down that route.

It clearly states that the person hiring you should carry it out be you staff or part time, volunteers get it done for free.

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1494848310' post='3298917'] Which is what I said earlier. Again, that's why the MU offer the service. [/quote] It's not the MU that are using your services. The school should be checking you themselves at their cost, the enhanced DBS you are showing them that you've obtained from the MU means nothing legally.

This is the official line from the Gov site regarding the institution using your services as a self employed person. Self-employed workers Individuals and the self-employed cannot apply for a DBS certificate of their own criminal record, as they cannot ask an exempted question of themselves. Options available are: a self-employed person who is eligible for a DBS check can ask the organisation that wishes to contract their services to apply for their DBS check individuals can get a basic check from Disclosure Scotland which provides details of any ‘unspent’ convictions

It's a bit of a mess, you can have a portable one "working in the same workforce", if you are self employed I suppose you are always in the same workforce! But the school should be checking you out like they do for me and will have some kind of annual account, your own enhanced DBS isn't worth anything to them in the event of an incident.

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1494842044' post='3298847'] Here's a quote: [i]A Basic Criminal Record Check is the only level which is available for individuals to obtain for themselves. Organisations can also access this level on behalf of their employees.[/i] That basic level of check is insufficient to teach either in a school, or a to do any kind of work with vulnerable adults. [/quote] Reading up on it, it's not how it's supposed to work, the school shouldn't be accepting your enhanced dbs anyway if it's a position where the enhanced is required, they need to do their own even if you have one. I work with (around) vulnerable adults and children too but not directly like teaching them but I still have an enhanced dbs, if I was to do that the employer needs to check me themselves. I worked with a guy when the CRB thing really kicked off in schools, he thought he'd be out of a job as he had been to prison for fighting when he was younger, his CRB came back clear! All the MU are doing is acting as an umbrella the same as the hundreds of companies online that will do it for you, they are essentially suggesting to the records agency that they are thinking of employing you to access the details then selling them on to you. Everyone knows that's what is going on, how many job applications do they think the MU do per position?!

That's who can ask for the check as in ask to see it, not ask to apply for one, there's loads of places online where you can apply for your own DBS.

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1494677652' post='3297783'] Fur me st least membership is extremely useful. I wanted a dbs check for my teaching. You can't do this as an individual, but the MU will do it for you. [/quote] That's not true at all, £65 online through the official government site, who told you that you can't do it?

Well it was listed 3 years ago!

It's been suggested by many people on here regarding public liability insurance over the years, the monthly membership cost adds up to far more than just taking a policy out with Ampband. Unless you want any other benefits of which the reviews aren't great for then I'd look elsewhere.