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1 minute ago, Lozz196 said:

A drummer I know will only play with rim-shots. It`s actually painful at times. He insists that`s just how he plays, and for everything else he`s faultless, the most accurate timing drummer I`ve ever played with. But due to said rim-shots he has to mic his own bass drum up and have an amp by his side as otherwise he can`t hear it. Essentially for most pub sized venues he would make any band he was in not bookable - at least not for a second booking.

He's not from High Wycombe is he?

Always mystifies me why players bang on about how lightweight and compact and loud their latest bit of kit is. If you were genuinely bothered about saving your back you'd use a decent modern PA and in ears. No amps. I absolutely love being amp free. I hear so many people say that they'd miss the feel of the bass but if you have a decent PA you can still feel it's presence and the in ears will let you comfortably hear whatever you want. Getting decent FOH sound is so much more achievable if there's no volume wars to compete with. As long as drummer is able to adjust volume accordingly then you can get lovely fat balanced sound which has more weight to it and less noise.

I love Summer Of 69. Easy, fun and goes down well. Drop D all the way for me. Love the growl of a slightly floppy detuned E string. 

Love playing original stuff too but have been around long enough to know that the cheesy covers are always going to be the money makers.

Yeah, I think that the 745s are the better PA cab. The horn on the 745 is just so good that the crossover point can be lower so it handles a lot of the high mid upwards leaving the main driver free to work harder lower down. They also have a longer throw which is better in bigger rooms. That said the FR800s are excellent in slightly smaller rooms and rooms where the dance floor starts right in front of the band because the dispersion is a bit wider close in. They handle lows well but I feel they still need at least one sub no matter where you use them. The 745's can definitely be used without subs in smaller rooms.

I own the FR800s but the 745s are owned by the band leader in the other band. I ummed and ahhed a lot over which to buy but in the end went for the FR800s because I don't own a bass amp just a Helix and one FR800 is perfect when I dep and the band I'm depping for use backline. It looks more bass amp like in that scenario and the mids and highs disperse well across the stage. I do more work in the band that use the FR800s as it's a band I started years ago and I have absolutely no complaints with them as PA cabs. The clarity of what they put out is absolutely great and they go loud without ever sounding strained or harsh.

No problem, the band with the RCF setup is purely weddings / corporate but I'll see if there's something in tye diary where it would be ok to bring a guest or two.

When our LF1400 arrives with my other band I'll report back too. That is by far the lightest and most compact of the subs we will have and should definitely match the pair of yamaha DXS15s we used to lug about. That might be a good consideration as a replacement for your DXS12. Still only £999 at the moment. 

6 hours ago, intime-nick said:

 

Good, second gig with them this Friday and I’ve used them at a few band rehearsals.  Sound-wise, I have only my UE900s to compare them to (I have some SE215s and KZ ZS10s and, whilst OK, aren’t really in the same sort of league) and they compete favourably. Of course, it’s not a direct comparison with a custom fit vs. universals and the extra isolation provided by the customs is probably the most important upgrade.  Sound is a very personal thing but, for me, they work very well - better stereo separation  and I can run them a lot quieter than the universals.  The whole band mix sounds so much better than before and my bass (the most important thing obviously 😉) sounds well defined and has plenty of low end extension and headroom. Overall, they sound very well balanced  

Rob @ LUGS did make me a slightly different driver setup than his standard quad offering with 2x low, a stronger mid driver and a high.  Overall, for the money, cannot complain.  As with all these things, you can always spend more money but with exponentially decreasing gains - same as all gear I suppose. I will run them for the next few gigs and then see what the longer term impression of them is - I feel I may be turning into an IEM-a-holic though....

As for the other multi-driver IEMs they are now offering -  the 8 / side option sounds tempting or maybe some UE6s or something else - this is now getting worse than picking amps and cabs ! (although at least they take up less room in my house)

That's great thanks Nick. I'm going to give him a shout I think. I really like dealing with small businesses and from what I see of him on Facebook he seems really approachable and quick to respond. 

@intime-nick how are you getting on with the Lugs? I've just seen their D5s are £400. That's a huge amount for not much cash in IEM world.

I used to find the Yamaha DXS range of subs a bit too muddy. Theyre bandpass so can give the perception of decent volume but at the expense of clarity and good transient response. One of my bands uses RCF 745s and they're absolutely great. We have them paired with RCF 905 subs and it's a formidable rig. My other band has two FR800s. We just ordered an LF1400 to go with them as the FR800s have a lot to deal with when we all go through (we don't use any backline). I would say that a single DXS12 would definitely struggle with a full band. 

It's a really great way to go. I'll never go back to the old school ways of having an amp onstage. We don't have any backline now and let the pa do it all. Modern PA stuff is light years ahead of most bass / guitar amps and the front of house sound is just so much better now that we don't have to fight stage volume. Being able to hear all my band mates clearly at a comfortable volume is just awesome. 

UE6 pro would be absolutely awesome. 

The good news is that the x32 rack is great for in ears mixes. However if you are adding eq to your bass sound between your aux send (the send that goes to your in ears) and your actual earphones then you are going to have to add another mixer into the equation and take several aux send feeds from the desk if you want to be able to hear the rest of the band. Surely you would be better off taking an extra channel on the desk, linking it to the input that your bass goes into, eqing it to suit your ears and use that for you in ear mix? With the x32 you can add all sorts of compression and eq to your in ear mix.

I'm selling a pair of DXS15 subs that would pair beautifully with these and make a killer PA system for a pub / club band.

My nephew has the same kit. It's actually surprisingly good and has some nice sounds.

1 hour ago, johnny1982 said:

the thing i was warned about (from a fellow musician) was,

that i can expect a non enjoyable bass sound in my in ear which could lead me to abandon using In ears in general. The guy told me, it would be 

almost a "must", to EQ my bass sound that is coming ONLY to In ear monitors.

 

Hmm, the guy doesn't really know what he's talking about if you ask me. Like many others on this forum, I've been on in ears for years and love it. The thing is, if you use cheap in ears or ones that you don't like the inherent sound of then yes, you probably won't enjoy it.

There's several things to consider. Firstly, when buying custom moulds you need to try before you buy. Places like www.custom-inearmonitors.co.uk have demo sets that are universal fit so you can try out. Ultimately pick a pair that sound good to you ears. Secondly, yes a little eq can really go a long way. What mixer do you use? If you're using a digital mixer then you can easily add eq to the Aux send that feeds your in ears. If there's spare channels on the mixer you can assign one input to feed two channels and have one eq'd for foh and the other eq'd for your in ears and only send one to front of house and the other to your ears. 

If using an older desk then you might need to consider outboard eq. Let us know what mixer you use and we can suggest options. EBS_freak is the IEM guru on this forum and will definitely be able to advise. 

IEMs are great if you ask me. A total revelation when you get them right and when you do you'll possibly never go back.

Anything by yamaha. For £300 you could get something 2nd hand that would still beat many £1000+ basses.

15 hours ago, EBS_freak said:

Outrageous behaviour.

Nah, I'm just lucky enough to have bandmates that are all committed to in ears and to making continuous sensible upgrades to our kit. As a result we have solid pa and a decent foh sound. Oh yeah a diary full of gigs helps keep them on-board too lol.

2 minutes ago, EBS_freak said:

Too late. X32 rack ordered.

Stop it now

1 minute ago, EBS_freak said:

If you are sitting on the fence as to whether you should change, what I would do is keep the XR18 as a backup and invest in the X32 for sure. 

That was exactly my thought.

4 minutes ago, EBS_freak said:

DOnt know whats happening in Behringer world...

 

But this may be a good time to get on the digital mixer bus (no pun intended) at a more affordable price...

 

https://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Behringer-X-AIR-XR18-Digital-Mixer/18DJ

https://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Behringer-X32-RACK-Digital-Mixing-Console/PNO

That's insane prices. How much better than the XR18 is the X32 rack? 

I only ever use Fusion gig bags. Not cheap tho but very well made with great protection and fantastic customer service. 

My current BB collection. Absolutely love them all.

Just bought a lovely Yamaha BB1024x from Steve. Really nice chap and I'm absolutely stoked with my new purchase which was exactly as described. Thanks Steve!

Temptation too much. PM sent.

Soooo tempted. Only 15 mins down the A5 from me too.

intime-nick's smart mounting brackets have arrived. Absolutely no flex in the plastic and all the screw holes are the perfect size including a nice recess for the m3 foot screws to sit in allowing them the thread all the way in. They were really easy to fit with the rear brackets being long enough to avoid the various sockets on the rear to get in the way. There's also a good 4-5 mm of clearance underneath so the vent on the bottom is still able to breathe. Very very pleased with them. Massive thanks to intime-nick for taking the time and using his skills to make this happen.