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[quote name='Graham' timestamp='1468869237' post='3093946'] Also, no bass amps on stage, but also no monitoring provided? Edit: Is this all that's been said about the bass amp? As my reading of that is you have to DI rather than mic your amp, otherwise my point about monitoring stands. [/quote] Yes I questioned that too but apparently there are no bass amps allowed. I will probably take one of our RCF 745s as a wedge then. That's as good as any bass amp anyhow.

I think our contract says 20% upfront then if they want to pay the balance by cheque or bank transfer it should be with us 14 days before. If they want to pay cash it should be before the first set. We've done 30+ weddings this year already and only one paid cash on the day. The rest all did bank transfer in advance. Contracts are king in this game.

We are deep in the thick of wedding season at the moment and all is good......busy but good. Today we got an email from a venue we are playing at the end of this month saying that they have just decided that in order to control volume they have now bought their own PA. No biggie I thought and a look at the spec says it should be ok (they have some tasty power amps). We however have to bring our own mixer and run sound ourselves. This concerns me a little to be honest. The PA has also been set up with a limit of 95db which ok isn't that loud but our drummer is good and can do restrained if necessary. They have also added that no bass amps are to be used and that only DI'd bass is allowed. This concerns me a little more as there's no engineer. Now I understand volume is an issue in lots of places but this is a marquee on a farm over a mile away from the nearest neighbour. Is 95Db in a marquee any different to 95db in a club? I guess it depends where they measure from. If its 1m from the speaker then that's really quiet. If its measured at the back of the tent then it's probably biblically loud on the dance floor. My question is - would this type of venue control worry you? I'm a little anxious about using a strange system whilst trying to play and not having a bass amp. should i be worried? PA spec and some rules below: [i]PA: we have our own PA system which all bands and DJs must use. The system will be set up on the morning of the party and has 2 x XLR inputs for you to connect your mixer to (see picture below). The system consists of: [/i] [i]○ dB Technologies 15" Loudspeaker x2 [/i] [i]○ dB Technologies 18" Sub Loudspeaker x2 [/i] [i]○ OHM CFU A3 Power Amplifier x2 [/i] [i]○ Symetrix Prism 8x8 ­ open architecture digital signal processor inc. wireless remote functionality. This process limiter limits the output to pre programmed Dba. We have undergone acoustic studies to identify the correct limits for each frequency which averages out as an overall limit of 95 Dba.[/i] [i]● Bass: all bands must Direct input their bass.[/i] [i]● Lighting: We supply lighting in the form of dimmable 8­arm chandeliers. You are welcome to dim these to your requirements and to bring and dance floor lighting you require. [/i] [i]● You are required to meet with a member of Huntsmill Farm (Huntsmill Weddings) before starting your music. This is so that we can ensure that this policy has been passed on to you and fully understood. It is usual at this point to perform a sound check and to discuss any issues. [/i] [i]● There is a noise limit inside the marquee of 95Dba. This is limited through our PA system output. This is NOT an automatic power cut­off system. [/i] [i]● We also monitor the noise from a number of other locations outside the marquee on an hourly basis to determine if the level of noise is too much (ie. is traveling to our neighbours). While using the decibel monitor is useful some music or vocals travel more than others so please bear with us if we ask you to turn down certain aspects. [/i] [i]● No kareoke please. [/i] [i]● No amplified music before 7pm. [/i] [i]● Live music limited to 11pm, after this time recorded music (DJ) only please. [/i] [i]● There shall be no more than 1 DJ without prior written permission. [/i]

This old chestnut comes up fairly often on here, so I'll pull up a seat. Up to you at the end of the day but whatever you do make it entertaining, engaging and get vocal harmonies nailed if you want to stand out because there's a lot of people doing that stuff in a very mediocre way. Personally I'd go for the "give em what they want" approach and do your best job of it and you'll be fine.

[quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1468446549' post='3091054'] How do you find the 1126s now you've lived/gigged with them a little? I'm considering them Do you use them without PA support at all? Si [/quote] Ive done probably 30 gigs with them now and they're really great. With my GK MB500 Fusion I had to roll bass off a bit because they have lots of bottom on them. Not boomy mind just present and sometimes it conflicts a little with a mic'd kick drum. Surprisingly I haven't had to do this with the DB750 so I guess they were simply reproducing what the GK was giving them. With the Aguilar they have really impressed me. That combination has heaps of weight and a really nice thick and defined tone that you really feel. I once owned a Hartke Kilo and a berg nv412 and after the demise of the kilo I sold the berg on and since then I always found everything else lacking. This rig has got that magic that my Hartke/berg did and then some. Basically I think I'm saying that I love the cabs but they will sound different with different amps. You're very welcome to come try them before committing to buying some if you're ever up this way. I do use them without Pa at smaller gigs and at bigger gigs I only use one cab. They sounded far better without Pa when using either the SWR SM900 or the Aguilar because they stay solid at volume. I found them a touch more boomy and less weighty at high volume with the GK.

[quote name='JPJ' timestamp='1468435228' post='3090951'] You think that's heavy? [url="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/JPJ/media/IMG_0864_zps17e5864c.jpg.html"][/url] [/quote] Now there's a thing of beauty. I don't care about weight - that's bloody lovely.

[quote name='deksawyer' timestamp='1468357980' post='3090457'] If I had the cash, I'd be looking at the 900 or whatever it is in the classifieds....... D. [/quote] Its worth every penny I tell you ;-)

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1468057466' post='3088315'] Subject to hearing, I think you need to hear a crap sub... and then you'll not waste your money. [/quote] This. Crap subs are generally pretty naff and the Behringer ones are heavy and the power rating is a load of old cobblers. The SPL on the B1200D is only 122dB which is pretty low. I heard a band with two of the Yamaha powered 12 inch subs and they were actually pretty good considering they're not particularly expensive

I had a Gator GRB 3U and my only complaint was that the handle has a reasonably fat tube in to make it more comfy to hold which means it sits on top of cabs at a bit of a tilt.

So a slight change happened when an amp I only ever really dreamed of owning popped up at a great price at an opportune time. Rig now looks like this: [attachment=223284:IMG_7544.JPG] And now I'm very happy

[quote name='Dropzone' timestamp='1468228544' post='3089321'] Yep, if you search youtube for "Bass player falls off stage" I am the one with green strings. To be honest it is very funny. [/quote] Haha beautifully done. No injuries I hope?

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1467909950' post='3087268'] A couple of decent full range PA cabs sounds like where you want to be. RCF 745 is my current fave rave. [/quote] +1. I have a pair of RCF 745s and they are astoundingly good and would be more versatile than powered bass cabs (except the barefaced ones which work well as PA cabs I believe).

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1467820674' post='3086537'] FWIW, none of the bands I play with, either regularly or in dep form, have charts. Hopeless drummer? Different thing entirely. Run away! [/quote] +1 I do plenty of deps and have only once been given charts in 20yrs. The drummer issue is a whole different world of pain though and I'd get pretty blunt pretty quickly if I were doing it as a favour. Probably worth checking with your mate that he's definitely coming back at the end of summer and hasn't just done the craftiest exit from a band that he too finds depressing to play with.

[quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1467699165' post='3085379'] Just a thought: It's your system and your money, but the whole point of subs is to take the extreme bottom end away from the tops. If you just plumb your sub into the Aux out then you're not doing that (and hence are losing the whole reason for having it at all); and unless you set the system up very carefully you could get phase cancellation as well (which will have the net result of actually losing deep bass output instead of enhancing it). Do you want the sub to do the job it's there to do, or do you just want to be able to tell people you have a sub in your system? [/quote] I would say that taking the bottom end out of the tops is one of the advantages but not the main reason for having a sub. A sub can reproduce low end far better than a full range speaker so that is its main benefit. If there's an eq on main output just roll of anything below 80 hz in the main mix and that shouldn't affect the aux send to the sub. Any decent sub will have a phase switch.

I practice most days (30 mins ish of scales, fingering, chords etc then anything from 5mins to an hour or so on band stuff) but rarely play anything other than a little noodle on the day after a gig. If I didn't I'd suck come gig time.

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1467325804' post='3082939'] Looking forward to seeing them play London in September! [/quote] +100. Really looking forward to it!!!