badboy1984

Thanks for the quick reply HowieBass, I don't think the power unit marked how much power it dish out but the tech test and measured the power for me and thats what he said about the 400watt and 300watt in 4ohm and 8ohm. I don't really know much about the power thing in technical terms. The amp does sound pretty loud when I use it at home and thats with the gain and volume at low level. I guess I need to try it out in a real live situation. [quote name='HowieBass' timestamp='1396876091' post='2418209'] .... but the tech has measured it and has told you that it'll deliver 300 watts into an 8 ohm load and 400 watts into a 4 ohm load (but not to run it at 4 ohms as more than likely it will overhead and shut down)? [/quote] Yes to that. The strange thing about the power section is their are 2 connection jack, so i assume both goes into cabinets. If 4ohm is big no no then i can only treat this amp as 8ohm. I can only have 2 small cab or 1 cab at home so adding a extra BC212 is no no with this amp, so I think I will just get a 8ohm Ashdown ABM410.

The amp is on this thread: http://basschat.co.uk/topic/232085-cant-beat-this-for-this-price/ My only concern is not the power rating on the power section. Is the amp can support 4ohm but it won't take it ..... or the power section minimum load is 8ohm instead of 4ohm ...... consider this amp is very old.

You are right about the power amp is not original. Should say the amp was problem a Trace Elliot GP11 pre amp originally but then a power amp was added and mounted to a single case unit. Kinda limit to what kind of cab i can buy, 4 ohm cab is no no for me then. Was gonna add a extra BC212 to my arsenal, now i guess i will just look for a 8ohm 4x10 or 2x15.

According to the power check the power amp is 400w into 4ohm and 300watt into 8ohm but recommend to run the amp on 8ohm because the amp will shut itself down when running at 4ohm ...... The strange thing is the amp is a 200watt ...... I kinda don't get when it mean. Best thing to do is to change the power amp?

The clip light was fix but didn't really try to clip it because when the volume is down it still produce some volume via the gain knob ...... turn it all the way up on the gain still produce very loud noise to distract people. I got to admit the amp sound fantastic, the only thing i don't like is the power amp and it is seperate to the pre-amp, thinking about swapping it .....

Try the amp again on the weekend and it seems it all working again. No distortion noise now and it sound quite loud. When volume and gain set at 9 o'clock is not very loud but when gain and volume was up to 10 o'clock it is loud and the amp came alive. I did get abit of distortion on the high notes/string but i reduce the amount of high treble on the EQ it seems to reduce some hiss and reduce the distortion. The 11 band EQ was flat but i guess is not flat at all ...... I will try again for couple of night to see how it goes.

Thanks for the input man. Yeah it was a typo on the word 'Horne' suppose to type the word 'the', I blame the iPad keyboard lol. I have got the manual for the preamp but I think they problem I have atm is beyond that, need to get the amp back to the technician to find out what is wrong first. The back panel on my is completely different because is either a replacement power amp or the amp is a prototype. My have 2x speaker connection jack.

You kinda make sense about the possibility that the power amp is not connected probably. Unfortunely I don't have a power amp to try ...... Amp is all in a single unit ......

Unfortunately the amp still have problem when I got the amp back today. Distortion tone even at low gain and low volume on a passive bass. Volume knob seen to do nothing part from adding more hiss ....

I'm communicate with him at the moment so will see his reply tomorrow. To be fair on his part he might not aware of this unless he have a bass and bass cab to test the tone. I will do like you suggest, taking the amp back along with cab to demonstrate the problem. I will also try it again tomorrow to double check. Also what's very weird is that when both gain and volume knob turn all the way off their is no volume produce which is common, but when I turn the gain up whole the volume is off it he amp produce volume to the cab ......... I thought it produce no sound whole the volume is off and Horne gain is up. I got feeling it might be a crap power amp in Horne until, not sure is it even possible to switch it out for something else?

It is not funny when my Ashdown LB30 volume set at 8 o'clock (very low) and it sounded a lot louder then the trace Elliot gain and volume set at half ........

The unit has a pre amp and power amp separate in a single unit. The preamp is the trace Elliot gp11 and the power amp is so e unknown stuff, we reckon is some sort of prototype product back in the old days. He tested the power amp section and told me the amp is 200watt but can run at 400watt at 4ohm and 300watt at 8ohm. He recommended not to run at 4ohm because the cooling system in the amp can't handle that much power so I should run it at 8ohm to be safe. My cab is bc212 and is 250watt 8ohm cab. The amp is not where crack at full to distort the cab and the volume is very low. Although I got the amp for dirt cheap and the service cost for the amp cost more then the amp itself. Is not like I can sell the amp back out with this status ....... I shoulda bought a bh250 instead ....... Too late now .........

I have contacted the amp tech to see what happen. My experience on trace Elliot amp is they are very loud but unfortunately my amp is not. My 30watt ashdown lb30 sounded 10x louder then my 200watt trace amp .......

I have bought a very old vintage trace Elliot amp couple of weeks ago. The amp sounded fine but I haven't try it probably because I feel it needed service. Took the amp to a well know amp tech which everyone recommended for a service. Today I got my amp back but the amp is not very loud even I set the gain half and volume half. It seems the volume knob doesn't adjust the volume that much apart from making some hiss noise. The gain set at 9.00 o'clock using a passive jazz bass the tone is very distorted at low volume ......... I running the amp via my TC BC212 and is not the cab that causing the problem because I plug my Ashdown LB30 and it is clean and loud at very low volume. Any idea?

Thats all cool man. Weight and storage is definite an issue for me. If is too heavy I won't be able to move it out the house by my own and I can't have something that is too big like a fridge because my wife won't be too happy about it ......... altho we moving to a new bigger house soon but my wife already set the ground rule about my gears ........

I had 2x BC212 and sold one. Now I'm gonna buy a second one again =.=

I say a jazz bass. P, J and MM bass is all i ever need to cover 99% of the sound.

I'm not sure do TC still do those deal where you buy the BH500 and 1x cab, they will give you the second cab for free .......

Hi Burg, Thanks for letting me know, I guess you trying to downsize to something lighter I guess. ?

Is nice to know is a fellow BC member. No deal had been made or promise at this stage. We both trying to figure out whether we want to deal or not. I certainly more concern about the weight and no doubt i think is a fantastic cab. If I can't lift the thing on my own going up and down the stair then i can see the cab will not get use or possibly trade for something else in the future.

Just for your info, if you using a BC410 which is 4ohm but you can add another 8ohm cab assuming you are using the TC head except the BH250. If you planning to use a non TC head don't try to use both the 4x10 and 2x12 together ......

It all depends what PA system you will provide on the gig. Small venue, I would suggest having the vocal to the PA and leave everything else out. Maybe the bass drum going through as well. I would suggest use monitor even for small gig because the vocal and drummer might not hear anything at all. Big venue, usuall supply with PA and someone in the venue will be the sound guy. At that point, everything should go through the PA and any amps on the stage will be monitor purpose only. Suggest mic the guitar amp and bass will be DI.

Take it is a big no no for me then. I'm still thinking shall I buy a light ish powerful cab or add another BC212. The guy wanted to trade 1 of the cab for my BC212. That 2x15 is attractive but if the weight is impossible to move on my own (5ft 8 skinny) then is a big no i take it. Consider all the gear is upstair .......

Was wondering have anyone got any experience using the cab? The cab look like this: Is a 4x10 and 2x15. Are they massively heavy? I'm currently using a TC BC212.

Stupid question but have you try turn everything down when plug the bass in to see if the clip light comes on? If not then slowly turn the gain up to see?