cetera

[quote name='JellyKnees' post='1154702' date='Mar 8 2011, 10:48 PM']Spurious lists of facts not withstanding, they still suck.[/quote] Nowt spurious there and I'd barely started... but I see you've moved onto schoolyard stuff now eh? Seems this thread has degenerated into the usual mess

[quote name='Cetera']legendary bands like KISS...[/quote] [quote name='JellyKnees']...you've got to be taking the piss, surely?[/quote] Err...no... Over 100 million album sales, record breaking concerts and tours, fantastic stage shows, an incredibly successful 38 year career and being a major influence on just about every well known rock & heavy rock band of the 80's/90's etc etc all makes them legendary. Surely the chip on your shoulder & personal dislike of them doesn't make you blind to the facts?!

[quote name='Bilbo' post='1154074' date='Mar 8 2011, 04:57 PM']Its the Macdonaldsisation of music. Tribute bands are small franchises of the bands they copy. Loads of people like them but they are ultimately lacking in nutrition and probably rot your teeth.[/quote] Really?! I've found that we have a whole new younger generation of fans coming along to see us because we play great anthemic songs they can get into, to a high standard, and with a full production show to go with it - adding excitement, a feeling of being 'part of something' & value for money. Many of these kids have never/are never likely to see older legenday bands like KISS & for them this is a chance for them to discover new 'old' music which then leads onto other classic rock acts and a healthy interest in newer rock bands, keeping the 'live rock' scene alive for new bands... Really chaps, this argument has been done to death & the level of resentment and bitterness is misplaced. There is a HUGE amount of talent in many tribute bands and indeed there is a lot to be said for the musical discipline required to do it to a high standard. Many/most successful tribute musicians have paid their dues in original bands themselves (& still do on the side) so find it's curious that they are met with such bitterness for enjoying their craft and providing enjoyment to others by actually leaving their bedrooms and playing live for people... Is your originals band not popular enough? Write some good songs, put some energy into your performance, organise your OWN gigs, promote them well, use social networking media to it's max, organise a street team & get good product together while making a name for yourselves. You could even maybe do that instead of spending time moaning/hating on online forums!

[quote name='dbass' post='1153862' date='Mar 8 2011, 02:31 PM'] @ Cetera I'm more worried about where you store all of them! Not sure my house would fit them all in [/quote] That's the trick.... don't store them at home

[quote name='skankdelvar' post='1153855' date='Mar 8 2011, 02:27 PM']I'm [i]very [/i]fetching. I've got a Transit and I'll fetch anything you like.[/quote] Cool, can you go and pick up my new GK800RB for me?!

[quote name='skankdelvar' post='1153836' date='Mar 8 2011, 02:18 PM']I [i]am [/i]my own tribute band. I even dress up as myself.[/quote] ....and if that's you in your avatar, it's a VERY fetching look - I must say!!

[quote name='JellyKnees' post='1153751' date='Mar 8 2011, 01:33 PM']The reason they suck is that they are killing the market for original music by creating a nice safe entertainment form for pubs and clubs to offer to the public. They are the flip side to the cheesiness that is the Stars in Their Eyes, the X Factor etc... If there are no (or very few) outlets left for original live music, then how are new bands going to develop in the first play? How will anyone ever know if they are any good or not? So don't give me all the crap excuses about entertaining the public.[/quote] Cough! [size=1]*[i]bullshit....[/i]*[/size] I'm in a tribute band, a covers band and a function band. I've done the originals thing to death but didn't make it big & grew frustrated with the "I'm gonna be a star" egos of other band members... I play Corn Exchanges/Arts Centre type venues etc (i.e. NOT typical 'originals' venues - so NOT doing them out of gigs) and occasional 'clubs' where we often offer a 'support' slot to an up & coming local band. Said local band then gets to expose their music to 150-500 more people than they normally would and hence promote themselves for their own pub gigs etc. Some of these new bands are great and go on to do well, but many of them are either not very good, have zero stage presence, no 'songs' or don't know how to follow up promotionally on playing to such an audience. That is their fault... NOT the fault of any tribute band... Stop taking the easy way out and blaming everyone else for your own lack of success....

There's very little that excites me GAS-wise anymore... but then with my gearlist that's hardly surprising!

Nice demo...some great tones

[quote name='BigAlonBass' post='1153142' date='Mar 7 2011, 10:41 PM']If you play in front of an audience, you have to play what THEY want to hear, or you don't work. I'd rather play in front of an audience than sit noodling in my bedroom for the rest of my life. If I have to slightly compromise my ideals in order to do so, so be it. A lesson that some 'musicians' could do with learning. .....or be a little more understanding of those who are willing to fulfill that need. [/quote] +1

[quote name='Spike Vincent' post='1153099' date='Mar 7 2011, 10:14 PM']Engineered The Rolling Clones (guess...) a few years back.Very competent,very entertaining.They got paid £700. More than I've made in 3 decades of trying to be original.One of the reasons I gave up 13 years ago.My dislike of tribute bands is not actually aimed at the bands (would I dress up as Bill Wyman for £250? Possibly) but at the total lack of imagination with the audiences.[/quote] So you dislike them because they earnt [b]more[/b] than you while [b]entertaining[/b] an audience? Wow... god forbid....

[quote name='rmshaw37' post='1152760' date='Mar 7 2011, 06:16 PM']as a side note, i've never tried genz benz cabs cetera - is there plenty of volume to be had? out drummer LOVES his cymbals! ha ha[/quote] Yep, there SURE is - I've never had a problem with their power - and they're lightweight to boot! The only thing I can imagine sounding better than my Neo's is a Bergantino NV610

[quote name='Bilbo' post='1152345' date='Mar 7 2011, 11:29 AM']Don't make the mistake of assuming I have a shred of integrity.[/quote] Did I miss something?!

[quote name='Bilbo' post='1152283' date='Mar 7 2011, 10:28 AM']I struggle to get past the idea that playing other people's stuff the way they played it is just pretending - one step up from a tennis racquet in front of the mirror. Tribute bands are just like taking the tennis racquet out in [b]public[/b] - [/quote] As opposed to jazz gigs where you just take the tennis raquet 'out' in 'person'....

GREAT band and incredibly tight as a live act! As has been mentioned above - Chris Leslie is a lovely guy, as is my good friend Ric Sanders - a gentler, more sincere person you'd be hard-pressed to find.

Excellent! I have the same set up..... and it's a monster! Be careful not to lose the all important mids from your sound though P.S. Hey Gary (Grunge!) good to see you here mate!

[quote name='Roland Rock' post='1151010' date='Mar 5 2011, 10:46 PM']Hey - we played a gig recently at the Vic Bikers Pub, Coalville, and saw one of your posters on the wall, I'm guessing from a while back. It was a good fun place to play. Any plans to return there?[/quote] Hi mate, Sorry, no.... too small for us and we can't use our 'effects' there... You can catch us a junction or two further up the M1 at Sutton In Ashfield 'Diamond'on Sat 15th October though!

[quote name='dmccombe7' post='1150653' date='Mar 5 2011, 03:43 PM']Lanark - great night. 2 supporting bands with Dressed to Kill on top form. Flames, blood, make up and smoking guitars. What more do you need. ? 35yrs watching live bands and it doesn't get any better than this. What a show. Absolute entertainment. The guys all came into the audience at the end of the night for photos and generally making friends. Great bunch of guys. Everyone seemed to have a great night - well done !!! If you like Kiss then go see these guys - you won't be disappointed. Will be back for their return gig ? Cheers and thanks Dave [/quote] Wow.... thanks SOOO much Dave It was great to meet you afterwards too mate! We had a wonderful time... such welcoming people, two great support bands, a cool venue and 400+ new friends We hope to return early in 2012... so see you then... unless you fancy joining us at the Glasgow 'Garage' on Sat 12th November?!