Lozz196

Great venue, always a good gig there

Sounds great

Next Knock Off gig is Sat 31 May at the O2 Academy Islington, supporting Cocksparrer.

Next Spacewasters gig is Fri 30 May at the same venue.

It is thinner by about 2mm, but the necks of that range are also quite shallow which can make a fair difference in the feel.

Just used one of these at a gig, not sure which it was but given I needed to push the volume a fair bit for just stage volume I’d say it was the lowest powered one. We only had a line check so all I did to get a sound I liked was drop mids a tad to say 11 o’clock and boost highs to about 1 o’clock and it sounded great. Was into an Ampeg Portaflex cab, no idea which sadly. All the bands used this rig and it sounded great with an array of basses, a real rich, full bottom end but without being at all boomy, I really liked this rig.

I just love playing music, if I’m honest I don’t really like all that comes with a gig anymore, but playing I just love. I’d be happy to only rehearse and record nowadays.

Just got in from a Spacewasters gig at The Water Rats, Kings Cross, London. 4 bands on, with us in main support slot. Used my JMJ Mustang bass through the provided Ampeg Venture head and cab and the sound was great. We only had a line check but that’s no problem for us, we played well, with a nice groove and the set was well received. I wore my Skechers trainers and my foot is hurting, darn plantar fasciitis!

They are great cabs Dave, I had two of the ones with tweeters (tho never used those), only ever used both for show as one was plenty enough.

Agree, it`s getting to the point where at some gigs it decimates pretty much all the other instruments.

Yeah it was a great tone, was only in a pub covers band and to the volume of the drums but the depth of the tone was awesome. The guitarists also used valve amps & 412s so the sound of the band was very full without needing to be overloud.

That`s the very one I`ve been umming & ahhing over

Some people need to be playing regularly to get the best out of them, trying the same person on the same songs 3 rehearsals in a row should show no 934 to be either like this or a stay static.

Well a year on and having done a lot of work on my fretting hand technique fortunately this doesn`t seem to have gotten worse. I did at first buy a couple of basses with thinner necks but they`re not really my preference so put the hours in on said technique, all seems ok. I have also added in turmeric/black pepper/giner supplements as @Geek99 suggested, and a daily tablespoonful of olive oil to my diet, both apparently natural anti inflammatories, so these may also have had an effect, as they certainly have on my back which also feels better.

Part of me is still tempted to give it a go, aaarrrrggggh

I was at that gig too Steve, yeah sound not that great but was pleased to see them as always thought there was just something "more" to them than a lot of the other bands around at the time.

Yeah it’s a fair old time, just got to be patient - which is something I’m really not very good at.

I’m way ahead of you on that point Dave, order already in (via Mark at Classic And Cool Guitars) for a Superlight Lionel but lead time is 2 years. So if I can get hold of one in the meantime would be great as even my JMJ Mustangs at just under 8lbs are getting a bit heavy, who knows where the back will be in 2 years.

Sadly the Lionel’s don’t pop up 2nd hand that often Dave. I think they’re alder, but as reduced body size that keeps the weight down a tad, rather than hollow bodied.

I’ve seen them range from 7.2lbs to 8lbs, and for me 7.5lbs would be my limit. The impetuous side of me is tempted to order one but then the faff of returning if too heavy brings me back to reality.

Marshall DBS7400 were excellent amps, used to pair mine with the Marshall VBC412 cab.

Well Thomann just lost out on a sale. They have a few Lionels in stock so I enquired on the weight of two of them - approximately 5kg for each was the response. I very much doubt that, clearly a figure plucked out of the air, but if they can`t be bothered to sort out the actual weight for a £1600+ transaction then they can go and brew theirselves a cupoffukoff.

Great review, I`m sure at some point I`ll end up with some form of LFSys cab, they just seem to tick all points, only thing really stopping me is I haven`t had to use my own rig for years, all the gigs I do have gear already there.

Maybe someone should invent a new one, maybe call it Cat Herding?

That Markbass I`m sure will be good enough, as would a higher powered Fender Rumble, even the 800 watt version is only 12/13 kgs, so would assume to 100 & 200 to be lighter.