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Yeah it was a great tone, was only in a pub covers band and to the volume of the drums but the depth of the tone was awesome. The guitarists also used valve amps & 412s so the sound of the band was very full without needing to be overloud.

That`s the very one I`ve been umming & ahhing over

Some people need to be playing regularly to get the best out of them, trying the same person on the same songs 3 rehearsals in a row should show no 934 to be either like this or a stay static.

Well a year on and having done a lot of work on my fretting hand technique fortunately this doesn`t seem to have gotten worse. I did at first buy a couple of basses with thinner necks but they`re not really my preference so put the hours in on said technique, all seems ok. I have also added in turmeric/black pepper/giner supplements as @Geek99 suggested, and a daily tablespoonful of olive oil to my diet, both apparently natural anti inflammatories, so these may also have had an effect, as they certainly have on my back which also feels better.

Part of me is still tempted to give it a go, aaarrrrggggh

I was at that gig too Steve, yeah sound not that great but was pleased to see them as always thought there was just something "more" to them than a lot of the other bands around at the time.

Yeah it’s a fair old time, just got to be patient - which is something I’m really not very good at.

I’m way ahead of you on that point Dave, order already in (via Mark at Classic And Cool Guitars) for a Superlight Lionel but lead time is 2 years. So if I can get hold of one in the meantime would be great as even my JMJ Mustangs at just under 8lbs are getting a bit heavy, who knows where the back will be in 2 years.

Sadly the Lionel’s don’t pop up 2nd hand that often Dave. I think they’re alder, but as reduced body size that keeps the weight down a tad, rather than hollow bodied.

I’ve seen them range from 7.2lbs to 8lbs, and for me 7.5lbs would be my limit. The impetuous side of me is tempted to order one but then the faff of returning if too heavy brings me back to reality.

Marshall DBS7400 were excellent amps, used to pair mine with the Marshall VBC412 cab.

Well Thomann just lost out on a sale. They have a few Lionels in stock so I enquired on the weight of two of them - approximately 5kg for each was the response. I very much doubt that, clearly a figure plucked out of the air, but if they can`t be bothered to sort out the actual weight for a £1600+ transaction then they can go and brew theirselves a cupoffukoff.

Great review, I`m sure at some point I`ll end up with some form of LFSys cab, they just seem to tick all points, only thing really stopping me is I haven`t had to use my own rig for years, all the gigs I do have gear already there.

Maybe someone should invent a new one, maybe call it Cat Herding?

That Markbass I`m sure will be good enough, as would a higher powered Fender Rumble, even the 800 watt version is only 12/13 kgs, so would assume to 100 & 200 to be lighter.

Look great

Toured with mine, flown with it, always stood up to the task. For day to day usage I take my Mono M80 but anything more strenuous the Hiscox takes the load, sad news to see them closing down.

I had a Harke HA4000 head with 210 & 115 XL cabs, was a truly awesome sounding set-up, but as the amp was flight-cased (with rack tuner & wireless kit) it was all a bit too much for me so moved it on. The HA4000 was amazing, had parametric mids so could really shape the sound nicely.

Agree, we (Knock Off) have a gig in a couple of weeks time and the allocated time in the dressing room expires at 6:45, leaving us nowhere to put our gear, so for me that`s when I`m going home.

I’m in agreement, I’ve liked all of the lightweight setups I’ve had, all were great but whenever I’ve played through an old school rig I’ve noticed a difference, and one that I’ve preferred.

Sat 24 May, The Spacewasters at The Water Rats, Kings Cross, London, a punk/garage/psychobilly/surf event with 5 bands.

I`m so used to Precisions that I just can`t seem to get it right with a Jazz in a band setting, so I reckon this could well be a factor for others too. Especially as I`ve heard excellent Precision sounds from bands only to see it`s a Jazz being used so I know it can be done, just not, it seems by me.

I had this at a rehearsal last week, with one band, didn`t happen with the other and was using the same bass. I did check the intonation at the weekend just to make sure and all was good. So I now think it`s the guitar in the first band needs a set-up.

Really like this, agree re Jam like sound

In my classic rock band we do the NIN/Numan version of Cars