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I doubt I'd prefer it to the LMIII... it's the 3rd or 4th I have owned. Whenever I sell one, I end up buying another a few months later, so I've decided I should always have one, even if I don't use it, as it gets boring "new amp? but, didn't you just sell one just like it?" (my girlfriend plays bass too so she notices...) :D But *in addition to* could work out well

A singer friend of mine and myself were starting a new project, writing songs together. We would meet at mine to write and record a bit of guitar and bass. I was playing guitar but I wanted to stick to bass, so we auditioned guitarists. This guy comes in, and within seconds we realise he can't even play. He was having trouble shaping chords with is fingers... and you could see he was feeling very nervous and embarrased. Singer is giving me this look like "we're done here"... but I felt sorry for him, so I took one of my guitars and showed him something simple to play, and I played another guitar and singer sang a bit... then moved to bass... and over all I taught him 3-4 little things and we played for another 30 minutes or so. Then he left, apologising for his lack of preparation and he laughed at how silly he was for thinking he could do it. Then he says he had only been learning guitar for 2 weeks... I emailed him a couple of days later to see how he was. We laughed. He was a cool guy, he just jumps into things with lots of enthusiasm and not enough preparation sometimes We became friends, I encouraged him and eventually he went on to form his own band. I played a couple of gigs with him as a dep, recorded a bit, I went to his wedding... so yeah, cool audition ha! stinky poo guitarist at the time, but I ended up with one of the coolest friends I've got.

Well, in true BC fashion, this thread is making me want to try a Veyron. Do I need another amp? No, I am happy with the Mesa D800+ and I still have the MarkBass LMIII as home amp/back up... but the Veyron has a built-in handle, like the RH450 had. And pretty lights. And if it's inspired sonically in any way on the Streamliner 900 I would not mind a bit of that too... Damn you BassChat!!! (half-kidding... only half kidding... I've got other things to spend money on that require more my attention, but I'm being honest about being intrigued by this amp and I'd love to try one)

Great wedding gig last night. Just the kind of wedding gigs I like: I was not playing

sexy!!!

That's doing very well!

Run, Martin, Run!

I once was playing with a very annoying and deaf loud guitarist. One day I managed to get his amp at ear level pointing at his head. I never managed to get in that situation again, but that day... that day was glorious seeing him wince and eventually turn down.

Ah, I'm with you on that one. I think a little sticker would be needed (for me), or a note somewhere. But really, I don't see myself using more than 2-3 different options, so it should not be hard to remember... (I hope!). I got it from Thomann.

I really can't feel any latency. The Mooer presets are a bit on the darker side, in general, although its extensive EQ should take care of that. The Nux presets are a bit more... 'airy' and so sound a bit more realistic... which is fortunate since you don't have much in terms of EQ there, just a basic 'Presence' knob *if* you have the amp simulation on. The amp simulation also seems to bring what sounds like a tiny bit of reverb... which I'm not loving. On guitar it's not much of an issue, but I like the bass pretty dry... However, it's a simple matter of not using the amp simulation, but that's the only kind of tone control you have on the pedal itself. It really is not much or a problem: I'd be happy with a box with no controls that simply substitutes a speaker/microphone combination. You can add other models to the Nux, but yes, it means over-writing one of the defaults. Again, I don't see that as a problem, I don't need so many guitar cabs. You could select your least favourite cab... and each combination of valve type + mic position + microphone type becomes a new preset to store things in. Plenty of space to store new models in, even if it can become tricky to remember what is where! The BS410 (Bassman 410) is pretty cool on bass. Of the guitar ones, there's only 2 or 3 that I would use, so finding space to store new models, either created by you or uploaded from ze interwebz, should not be a problem.

I second @Al Krow on the comment about the cabs. I don't have any real concerns about the amplifier, and if I were after a nice light amp with good features, I'd definitely be interested in trying it. But cabs... I'd be more cautious there. It makes a huge difference to get the right cabs. This doesn't mean you should not get the Bugera ones, but if I were you, I'd check what my needs AND budget are, and then see what my options are. Amplifiers, I've owned a few, some I was happier with than others, but they all did at least a reasonable job... however, cabs, god, that has been a long and expensive trip Don't rush if you don't have to.

I'm losing my will to... live... Ok, I'll let you carry on with others. I'm exhausted.

Got the Mooer and the Nux now... and I like them both I think I favour the Nux, but I miss some of the 'tweakability' of the Mooer. Since in the end it will mostly come to finding/creating a couple of presets, one for bass and one for guitar, either is probably fine. Straight from the box, I do like the sounds in the Nux a bit better.

Probably not, but we're used to that parameter and it gives us a bit of a ballpark of what to expect. I think that's as much as we can honestly expect. I'm not very interested in whether an amp can put out 500W or 700W... but I care if it's 200W or 1000W because that can have a bit more of an impact. I bought a TC RH450 when they first came out. They said 450W. I tried it, it did the job. It turned out it was more like 236W or something. No big deal, volume-wise it did the job I expected from any amp in the 300-500W range. I sold it only because I didn't get along with the sound, not because of its power. TC did play on users when using the 450W number and they admitted it, qualifying it as "but our clever power management system makes it sound as loud as a typical 450W, look at the graphs"... and they weren't completely wrong, and perhaps they did not mean to misled but give users a number that reflected better what you could expect from the amp, volume wise. RMS is not perfect, but it's the parameter that's most widely in use. Using 'peak' without explicitly indicating it is a little disingenuous.

Thank you, krispn.

The point, my dear obtuse friend, is that if you are going to compare something you need to compare parameters measured n the same way. Choose peak, choose RMS, choose anything, but choose the same. We generally talk RMS, and the Bugera is not 2000W RMS, and yes, I know, they do not claim that, but they very clearly play on the assumption by most people, inexperienced or not, that wattage ratings would be RMS because that's what most people do. However, you knew all this, I knew you knew all this... yawn. Come on. Really.

No one is questioning that. In fact, it comes across as a pretty decent amplifier.

Do you enjoy arguing for the sake of it, or is there a point to it? Peak vs RMS etc all were covered in enough detail. Do you really want me to repeat it all again?

Only if you use picture frames as props onstage 😛

Yes

I did that on an old OLP (Stingray style) bass. It was an interesting exercise that ultimately turned fruitless: I liked the sound with the pickup right where it was originally. A Precision pickup at the Stingray pickup position sounded really good too. Of course, that's just for my taste.

I'm not convinced about that explanation, since the nodes change position as you fret different notes and the string length varies.

Neither is the Bugera The point stands, 'though: I could use an amp capable of delivering a million watts... I don't want to play any louder than I already do, so I would set the amp to a setting that will not put a million watts into my cabs. You need an amplifier capable of delivering the power you need, with cabs that can use that power, and it does not matter much what's the maximum an amplifier can produce.

Indeed! I have noticed a few times people trying wireless systems and wandering off away from the stage, testing the range, and then commenting on the slight delay. When you're 30m away from the stage, any processing delay is going to be minimal compared to the delay due to the speed of sound. It'll still be delayed if using a 30m cable!