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[quote name='mike f' timestamp='1507927867' post='3388929'] Kim Clarke - Defunkt Check out their 1982 album, Thermonuclear Sweat. I love slap and I prefer the hard hitters; Larry Graham, Prince, Flea, Louis Johnson. Not keen on the short strap, bass under the chin typewritery machine gun stuff! I know Sly Stone was talking about sing-alongs but what he said describes how I feel about slap bass; [color=#1D2129][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]"Now a lot of people don't like to do it, because they feel it might be old fashion. But you must dig that it is not a fashion in the first place, it is a feeling. And if it was good in the past, it's still good".[/font][/color] [/quote] I agree with that. There's a lot of slap that sounds like some metallic clanking noise which leaves me completely cold. But what Larry Graham and Louis Johnson and others in their vein do is a lot more... "groove" oriented, with a deeper tone, and even when it's fast it doesn't seem they're just trying to fit in as many notes as possible, but it sounds more like different parts on a drum kit could sound. It's a style that has a lot of good uses.

[quote name='Radchenko' timestamp='1507484627' post='3385791'] Yes I like the sound of sc. But Maybe this more lowers of bb2 are What I need to perceive more headroom and presence without loosing clarito and punch? Thanks [/quote] I don't think that using a single BB2 will give you what you're after. Yes it does go a bit deeper but...

[quote name='Bigwan' timestamp='1507462677' post='3385562'] Absolutely true. But I find that in the mix the volume boost makes the effect more useable. It's one of those effects that makes bass disappear behind everything else. [/quote] Not for me. I guess it will depend on your basic tone.

[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1507393066' post='3385207'] Bassballs - and you can sometimes pick them up for under a score (£20). In fact I may even have a spare somewhere... [/quote] Only it's not really the type of effect most people think of as 'envelope filter'... but a fun effect all the same. I had one that was modified to get access to the sweep of the two oscillators and was pretty cool

[quote name='geoham' timestamp='1507128393' post='3383508'] It was this type of situation that prompted me to buy a Zoom B3. I was buying pedals to use in one song, and sometimes we'd drop the song! (For example I bought a chorus for Don't Stop Believing and it got old pretty quickly!) I know some folk just don't like multi effects, but think of this as three interchangeable stomp boxes and you'll do just fine! [/quote] Good call... the Zoom MS60 has a few good envelope filter models in it, plus plenty other fun sounds.

[quote name='Bigwan' timestamp='1507117732' post='3383404'] EHX Micro Qtron. There are better but not at the used price of one of these. [/quote] The problem with that one, for me, is that the effect is a lot louder than the input signal. I like it, I owned THREE... but each time I let it go because of the volume issue.

[quote name='Graham' timestamp='1507111766' post='3383332'] I could do with an envelope filter for a song we're adding to our set - Hey Ya by Outkast. I'll probably use it in a couple of other places too, but the prompt to get one is this song. Ideally I'd like to get an MXR, but as the next three months see all three of my children's birthdays and then Christmas, I can't spend that kind of money right now. So, what's the cheapest, least bad option out there? [/quote] Cheap but decent sounding and easy to get good sounds from... Digitech Bass Synth Wah is pretty cool, and lots of extra sounds. For around 50-60 quid you might be able to find one of the Source Audio Bass Envelope Filter pedals (BEF, not the 'pro' version). The original Soundblox pedal. It's larger than your average pedal but it has a variety of envelope filters and some phasers, it's really easy to tweak, there's no issues with weird peaks or bottom end loss, and it just sounds great, If you can find one... don't hesitate.

[quote name='Radchenko' timestamp='1507323758' post='3384844'] Yes, Thanks for all your responses. This is What Alex said to me: The Super Compact will go as loud as the original Compact if you use a more powerful amp. The Big Baby 2 is no louder than the Super Compact. The big baby 2 is larger so it can go lower. Super Compact is a standalone solution for many bassists, particularly anyone who used to use an original Compact. The Puma 500 isn't a very powerful head. --------------- I though that big baby 2 can manage more watts... [/quote] I haven't checked but both cabs use the same driver. They may be rated differently because of how the enclosure affects its behaviour, but I doubt that any difference in watts rating can be taken as meaning it'll be louder. The BB2 is bigger and likely has more lows, bu that's probably about it. I had two BB2 and there is a LOT of lows in those cabs. If you have a SC already, I'd probably just buy another one (if you like its sound) and with the two cabs you'll have an awesome rig. You'll definitely have more noticeable 'oomph'. A single BB2 may be deeper in sound but I doubt you'll find it enough to be worth the change from SC to BB2. Use two cabs. Or something like a Big Twin.

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1507390215' post='3385177'] I noticed no lack of top end bite whatsoever when I demoed a Two10, although I did not try the BB2 to compare. [/quote] Me neither. They have plenty of treble if you want it, in fact I often turn down treble a bit and dial in the VLE filter a bit when using the LM3 with my pair of Two10s. I clearly aim for a different tone than the OP but I'd be surprised if he couldn't get what he wants, considering the players/sound mentioned. I'd go for a Two10 over two One10. It's a cheaper option and I can't imagine playing with just a One10. It might be ok as a stage monitor but a Two10 is still pretty light and portable and much more capable than a single One10. A Two10 can be carried on one hand, while two One10 requires two, etc... Simply, a Two10. Or two Two10s

[quote name='scrumpymike' timestamp='1507399286' post='3385261'] Quote from one of Alex's earlier posts on this thread: "We low pass filter one driver on the Two10 (and continue that with its bigger siblings)..." I take that to mean the 2 x 12" cab's. [/quote] No, it meant the Four10, Six10 and Eight10.

[quote name='Lysdexia' timestamp='1507377248' post='3385033'] [url="https://flic.kr/p/C6VKEu"][/url] My Maruszczyk Elwood 4p in Black burst. It's a 30" scale and weighs in at a delightfully pleasing 3.47Kg Although it's not really a 4p anymore because I added an East J-Tone pre-amp. It sounded awesome before the change, now it's awesomer. I hope this post works as I need to find a way to host then post my music photographs all over again. Fingers crossed... [/quote] You need to warn us before posting porn here... what a beautiful bass!!!!

[quote name='Paul S' timestamp='1507371084' post='3384982'] Still debating whether or not to go with carbon rods - anyone have a view? [/quote] I never gave it much thought, to be honest. But I also like substantial necks... I love my Classic 50 series Precision neck. The truss rod adjustment is at the heel which is a pain, but I have adjusted it exactly zero times since I bought it 3-4 years ago. Those necks don't shift much. If I went for something slimmer I'd probably go for the rods option for extra stability. It adds a bit of £££ but if you're specifying a bass *just so*, you might as well go the extra inch or two.

[quote name='CameronJ' timestamp='1507337105' post='3384895'] Neither can I! [/quote] Don't say that! You're supposed to be supportive and say that it's all for the best and all that! Don't make it harder than it already is!

I can't believe I just sold this...

[quote name='mentalextra' timestamp='1507107317' post='3383295'] First come, first served? It's not sold until the seller is holding the money? [/quote] This. Unless otherwise agreed. Sometimes a prospective buyer has asked me to hold something for anything between one day to two weeks... Depending on how 'popular' the item is and how much I need the cash I may agree or negotiate other terms. Then I wait. But if nothing is agreed it's first come fist served. When I *really* want something, I let the seller know in no uncertain manner. A lot of people ask you very detailed questions even about postage costs or delivery and then they become silent... you never know in advance, so I don't wait unless asked and agreed.

[quote name='bjelkeman' timestamp='1507044858' post='3382996'] I really get why they aren't for everybody, but the amount of complaining makes me think some people are jealous they can't buy them or something. [/quote] really?

I got a maple neck from Aliexpress. £65 delivered. They were selling Jazz style necks but I wanted a wider one and they made one for me, finished in gloss laquer with a yellowish tint that I like, and because it was for a Squier Jazz (it was rosewood and thin) I asked them to reproduce the Squier label etc, which they did, down to the serial number. Pretty happy with it.

[quote name='Quatschmacher' timestamp='1502239965' post='3350208'] Take it to Jon Shuker. He did my American Standard Jazz fretless conversion recently and it was a lovely job and cost me only £80. [/quote] Beautiful result. I did the same to a Precision with a local luthier, similar cost, and of 4 fretless basses I ended up keeping this one. I removed the frets myself, slowly and carefully, using a fret remover tool (ground sharp pincers) I got on eBay for a fiver or so, just because I could. Then I thought I'd rather get it finished nicely so I got the luthier to fill the slots with a wood veneer and plane the board nicely.