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Indeed. The BB2 in particular will just give you LOTS of whatever you put in. There's an enormous amount of low end on tap, right up to shrill treble if that's what you're going for... the BB2 most definitely does not lack mids. My experience with the BB2 was that I had to play with the low end control on my preamp to avoid it getting too 'big'. Maybe if you get an overly bassy sound it masks the mids for some? But that would not be the BB2 lacking mids, it would be having too much low bass on the signal fed to the speakers.

Just to add that I would disagree with the lack of mids on BF Compact (gen 2) or BIg Baby 2 (Gen 3), both of which I owned and also Super Midget (Gen 3) which I had the pleasure to try. I do prefer the Two10, but it's got nothing to do with a 'scooped' sound on the others. To me the others sound big and full and pretty 'flat' in that I don't feel there's particular frequencies they obviously lack or enhance. The Two10 just has a 'sweeter' top end for my liking (I hate describing sounds, whatever I say just doesn't sound accurate enough), and the bottom end is 'tighter' in a way I really like. I just find the bass sound I like [1] a lot more easily with the Two10. [1] Using MarkBass LM3 or Mesa D800+, and Stingray usually. I love a punchy low-mids rich sound that is fat but with very good definition and without excess bottom end (in fact, the adjustable HPF control on the D800+ has become my new best friend).

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1506185030' post='3376966'] I've been looking at these BF cabs lately as well, so tried a few out at the Gallery today and walked out having put down a deposit on a 4 ohm Retro 210. They had it in stock but I didn't fancy lugging it home on a train with all my other shopping bags, so having it sent on! The Super Twin felt like it had too much unrestrained low end boom that would just overpower the stage sound. The mids and treble on the other hand were the opposite and felt very restrained like they wanted to stay in the box. By comparison, the Retro sounded perfect straight away. Just the right amount of bass, way brighter with growly upper mids, the notes just leapt out at me. I have a pair of Ampeg SVT210AV cabs at the moment, so the Retro was much closer to the sound I'm used to. I'm hoping the one cab can cover most of my needs volume wise. My main amp can go to 2 ohms if I need another cab, and my backup amp is a bit underpowered so could do with 4 ohms to squeeze the most out of it! [/quote] another Two10 convert! I felt exactly the same with the Two10, compared to my pair of BB2 I had. I now have two Two10 (4ohm each) and they're glorious.

[quote name='adamg67' timestamp='1506190743' post='3377005'] [/quote] sexy...

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1506176956' post='3376893'] Thanks for that. I nearly had to reach for the google button there. Is that even a thing? [/quote] Apparently so. I had to google it... it bugged me not knowing what it meant. It didn't disappoint

Fun gig with the "Radge Against the Machine" band... we don't gig often but when we do I loooove it. People go crazy. I'm glad I'm 1.5m above the crowd safe on my stage and not in the mosh pit 'though I think security guys hate us when we play there... From a bass playing point of view... I love getting to use different overdrives, wah, octave and phaser effects

Power... I like the DiMarzio Model P myself. Still sounds like a Precision, but it's punchy and sounds very good to me.

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1506079537' post='3376293'] Boost pedal would be my choice too, saves modding the bass and would make it easier to equalise the volume compared to your other basses. The TC Spark Mini looks like a good contender. Look inside the cavity though to see if there is a trimpot, some active circuits have a gain control you can adjust with a screwdriver. [/quote] This. Many preamps have a trim pot in the circuit that you can adjust. If not and output is an issue... a boost pedal or an EQ pedal would do. EHX did a small cheap bosst pedal I think.

[quote name='The59Sound' timestamp='1506152800' post='3376716'] People are often surprised when these SJW's go out and try to correct people's behaviour and then get decked... [/quote] It's a tough one, I admit. You can't just go around getting in situations that may lead to violence carelessly. Although it's surprising just how often those idiots are cowards when they get confronted firmly (and I'm not a big guy either). A couple of months ago I took my bass off and jumped out of the stage to confront someone who had been an idiot towards my girlfriend and her friend... Nobody died, and I'd like to think I sent a strong enough message that he'd rethink his behaviour next time... or that someone else will do the same I did. I have a fundamental problem with how we often let one or two idiots spoil things for a larger group, and nobody does anything about it when it would be so simple to stand together against the idiots. As for the "SJW" label... it made me smile. Really? Social Justice Warrior? Give me a break

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1506088816' post='3376408'] Ah, I might see where the confusion is. When I say I'd avoid the risky situation I was not referring to the act of reprimanding the person making the lewd remarks, or trying to assist if someone is being attacked; I think basic human instinct to help would kick in there, especially if someone was being attacked. I certainly hope that I would dive in to help (I've never been tested in that respect). To be perfectly honest, to my own detriment, I don't know if I'd intervene if it was just lewd remarks as I wouldn't see it as being any danger to anybody (just a bit offensive) - depends on how lewd they were I suppose. I was referring to the act of the potential victim putting themselves into risky situations in the first place. i.e. the hypothetical act of walking down the street with money hanging out of pockets or, back to the original post subject, dancing on the stage in an alluring manner if you'd be upset by lewd remarks. These things should not happen and are not acceptable but,[i] as the potential target/victim[/i], you can either wait for society to change and take the risk in the meantime, or you can take immediately effective action and avoid the potentially dangerous or upsetting scenario. Hence my original comment on this thread that if you're going to be upset by lewd comments then being a stage dancer (in a rough end establishment) seems to be a strange career choice. Hope this makes my position clear (though I suspect it hasn't). [/quote] I suspect we agree more than it looks... but it gets dense here at times

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1506086547' post='3376385'] Hence the first sentence of my reply to TimR. [/quote] Your first sentence said that it needs to be done, but then the next paragraph pretty much says "but let others do it, not me". Which is an attitude I can completely understand, but it's not a productive one. So I hope there's more doers and waiters. That's all.

[quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1506079499' post='3376292'] I don't know what environments the OP is playing in - but I'm using a 300W Tecamp Puma into a single BF One10 with a big band with over enthusiastic drummers and brass players. I have a second One10 but I don't often have to use it. A single one is plenty loud enough. [/quote] It definitely varies with the band... I can't imagine using a single One10. I have not tried one, but I can't imagine using less than a Two10, let's put it that way.

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1506036032' post='3376104'] Completely agree that a good speaker makes a massive difference to the volume / quality of sound etc and speaker efficiency plays a big part in this. But let's assume we are dealing with high quality cabs e.g. Barefaced or Vanderkley or Tecamp / Eich and not some general piece of pub heating equipment! Are you really saying that 300W through a 4ohm BF cab will sound no louder than 150W through an equivalent 8ohm BF cab? [/quote] He's probably saying that the difference by "watts" alone is nowhere near as noticeable as most imagine. That's certainly my own experience. However many watts an amp is rated at, the bottleneck seems to be at the speakers. Get efficient (and numerous if that's feasible) speakers and you can make a relatively low rated amp work very well indeed. The difference between the 8ohm and 4ohm version of a particular cab through the same amp is also nowhere near as large as I had imagined... I suspect that even if a cab is rated for 500W, it stops getting noticeably louder well before that kind of power is applied to it: the cab can take it, but it's mostly just heating it. But this is just my interpretation. of the results, I do not have the knowledge to tell you for sure that's why speakers behave the way I experienced.

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1506039140' post='3376113'] Tim, I have never said we shouldn't try to change this behaviour, and pointing the error of their ways to an idiot standing next to you is a good thing, and needs to be done. Let me know when you have stood next to all the lewd comment shouters, rapists and muggers in the world, and I'll the venture out naked with wads of cash in every orifice. Until then however I'll continue to avoid, or at least not aggravate, what seem risky or unpleasant situations and I'd advise others to to the same. [/quote] I hope they don't take your advice, or nothing will ever change. Things don't change by themselves. Someone changes them.

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1505985724' post='3375609'] Barefaced Retro 210? [url="http://barefacedbass.com/product-range/retro-two10.htm"]http://barefacedbass...retro-two10.htm[/url] [/quote] That would be my choice too

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1505856922' post='3374860'] Sterling Ball would have a stroke, he'd be apoplectic. [/quote] He would not care much, but some of the forum members... completely

[quote name='Daz39' timestamp='1505853609' post='3374838'] Because you're victim blaming and normalising the continuation of these attitudes. [/quote] Thank you. You said it concisely and much nicer than I could.

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1505852508' post='3374820'] No it doesn't make it right, but if you know that sort of thing is likely to happen why not choose another career? Similarly if you join the army you can't really complain if someone starts shooting at you, if you're a coal miner then you're going to get dirty. If a dancer of a certain kind dress up in provocative clothes and gyrate about then it is generally done for a specific reason, which is to stimulate the opposite (or same) sex. If you're not happy with that then find something else to do. In an ideal world we would all be able to walk around with rolls of cash sticking out of every pocket and have no fear of being mugged. You could still still do it and complain every time you're mugged, and wait for the world to change, or you could simply be a bit more discreet. [/quote] I'm not even going to respond to that now.

Nice! Now, if you're bored one day... post that picture on the EBMM forum, and retire to a safe distance to watch the fireworks

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1505758754' post='3374120'] However, if someone has strong objections to being ogled or having lewd comments made, then becoming a dancer where they have to wear what they're told would seem to be a strange career choice. As with lots of these things there is always the option to say no. [/quote] If you become a prostitute, it would not be strange that some day you come across a customer who is a little rough or even violent in some way. It goes with the territory. It doesn't make it right 'though. Does it? And again... the objection is not about being 'ogled'... This thread is depressing with some of the attitudes on display and justifications being made.

[quote name='MoonBassAlpha' timestamp='1505769748' post='3374240'] We all REALLY want to know what x is now! [/quote] I leave that for my autobiography. If I disclose all the juicy bits here, who would buy the book?

[quote name='Lysdexia' timestamp='1505748588' post='3373986'] My first Maruszczyk - Elwood 4p 30" scale in black-burst satin. It's a joy to play. And what a slap tone it delivers! The photo is from their website, but it's also the bass I now have. Delighted! The pre-amp will be swapped out for an East J-tone 01, and I'm going to exchange the bridge pickup for a stacked J-type, but I'm not sure which one will bring me closer to a Musicman style humbucker in sound. Any suggestions for that would be very welcome indeed. [/quote] That's a seriously sexy looking bass!

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1505743876' post='3373930'] I suspect you won't realise just how much it gladdens my heart to hear you say that!! ...My MB Combo (AC 121 Lite) uses as it's amp head pretty much an LM3 (albeit with additional aux in and headphone in sockets). It's been my trusted gigging amp since 2014 and has never let me down once, nor lacked headroom. As I mentioned a few posts above, I very recently paired the head with a TecAmp 2x12 cab which is, to be fair is a far better speaker than the Markbass 121 cab (but that's completely to be expected given that the TecAmp would have been 3 x the price!) and it completely held its own against the highly rated Genzler Magellan 800. [/quote] The LM3 is a very nice amp indeed. I've had one in combo form or head for many years now. At one point I was LM3-less and I quickly had to fix that and got another. It may not be the absolute best, but it always does a good job. I once compared a Streamliner 900, the LM3 and a Mesa D800 side by side through the same speakers (2x or 4x TKS S112) in a rehearsal room with a loud band. The D800 felt bigger, but I didn't feel there wasn't a huge difference in volume between the LM3 and the D800. These days my favourite amp is a D800+... I love the voice and HPF controls and the amp just sounds great, but the LM3 is not going anywhere.