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The Classic 50s is quite a step above the standard MIM Precision, so based on that alone I'd be looking at Classic 50s. Of course, you find some standards that are fantastic, so trying them before you buy is the best option, but you knew that so let's move on I own a Classic 50 (avatar, I replaced the pickguard, I didn't like the cold metal feel). The truss rod adjustment issue is stupid. Why oh why could they not put it in a more sensible place... it's not like it's a 100% perfect replica anyway! But having said that... it's not a big deal. I have a guitar with the same system and it's not as painful as it seems... but more painful than it needs to be, so it annoys me, but if the guitar is worth it I'll put up with it. My Classic 50 is worth it. I never adjusted the truss rod 'though. I've owned it for 2 years now. I bought it new and it was set up perfectly, and it's never needed adjustment. Perhaps the substantial neck helps with that stability. This neck is wider than a Standard. It's wider than just about any other Precision. It doesn't feel chunky, 'though. I love the Stingray and typical Precision neck more than a Jazz... and this feels very comfortable. I love the extra width. I love the glossy lacquered neck. And it sounds really good stock. I'd recommend you check one out first purely because of the neck dimensions, if you hear 'chunky neck' and you feel like running away. If you're comfortable with Precisions generally, this one may feel a bit different but not terribly so. It's actually not that chunky, it's wider but not uncomfortably deep. Between those two, the Classic 50, no doubt.

Bought a couple of TKS cabs for around £1500 and a year later I sold them for the equivalent of £700... But I *now* know what I like. And I stay away from the For Sale forum

[quote name='chrisanthony1211' timestamp='1468262546' post='3089713'] Depending on what you get, they're very flat to the neck, you don't notice they're on there. [/quote] I don't mind noticing them, but I used something like that before and the adhesive was not very strong. After not long they'd start drifting through normal playing, and some fell off.

Gig last Sunday... first time in a new venue for us... while the Euro 16 footbal finals were on. Yup... at one point we played to ONE bartender. There were two guys in the kitchen who'd come out to hear us from time to time... By the end of the gig (3h slot) there were maybe 10-12 people. They made noise, 'though... and bar manager apologised to us for not having realised what night it was and said he loved us and we'll be back on Friday/Saturday slots. We actually had a ball. When you have just a handful of people really enjoying it, it's easy to give them all your attention... and it was fun. Glaswegians... when they're good they're the best

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1468083850' post='3088542'] Yes, it seems to put off quite a lot of people. But there's no reason for it. Like I said in the OP, the 'road wear' is a red herring that just diverts attention away from the fact that, if you're into vintage Fenders, this is as close as you're going to get without spending thousands on the real thing. Yes, it takes a leap of faith to buy one online without trying it, but if you find one used then it's absolutely a no-brainer. And as far as the 'road wear' goes - again as I said, I don't much care for the arm contour 'wear' and the faux fag-burn on the headstock, because they're on every P Bass and make it obvious that it's a Road Worn. Otherwise, the 'wear' is very plausible, particularly the ageing of the hardware. which is as good as I've seen. Bottom line is, it plays as well as any P and it sounds as good, too. I got mine a couple of weeks ago and I'm still having trouble putting it down. I'm wearing it now, as I type this. This Road Worn, my Diamond BCP-1, my Markbass SA450 and my newly-delivered Barefaced Two10 - just about where I want to be at the moment. [/quote] I know, I was very sceptical until I tried a friend's RW Jazz a few years ago and that was really something. So from that moment I opened my heart to the RW... not because of the RW aspect but because they seem to be great instruments. And I've tried a few more since. All were very good. But it still makes me hesitate... which worked out well for you

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1468075578' post='3088468'] You should have, it's exceptional. It's my A1, go-to bass. It's going nowhere. Don't know how Karl could bear to part with it. [/quote] It was the 'roadworn' aspect that made me hesitate. I think it looks good, but something inside me says it's a little strange... yet, having had those basses in my hands, I should have not hesitated that long... ah well, all the better for you!

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1468073188' post='3088446'] Yes it is. No-one is paying £500 just for 'road wear'. [/quote] that fiesta red RW of yours... you have no idea how many times I looked at it and almost PM'd Karl to take it off his hands I don't need it. At all. But I know what those basses are like and it was so tempting!

[quote name='Kev' timestamp='1466700567' post='3078027'] Oh good, another one of these threads! Opinion is split, I know a few who daren't say anything negative due to the way any negativity against these cabs always gets jumped on, and somehow the attackers make it seem BF is being picked on!! [/quote] That's not the impression I got. Before I got my first BF cab, and not knowing anything about the history of the company whatsoever, I would come across BF-related threads and I just could not understand the bahaviour of the participants. And by that I mean people seeming hellbent on jumping onto any BF thread to just be negative in a way that seemed... obsessive. It put me right off BF at first because it made me think that perhaps there was a reason behind that behaviour. Eventually the day came when I could try them for myself and... I still don't get that compulsive behaviour of some. I really don't. If there's any excessive lashing out from BF 'fans' (which is not pretty either) sometimes, it was not them who started it Of course you disagree. But my own observations are different from what you said, so I want to leave this message here

[quote name='Highfox' timestamp='1468048706' post='3088227'] There is a bit more to it than that. [/quote] quite a bit more. I have a Classic 50 Precision and it;s a great bass... but the RW series one is a pretty different instrument

The green one looks pretty interesting. Hmmm. £134 is not too bad either.

I was going to recommend my girlfriend but... I will wait until I know what you'd want her for. edit: StingrayPete got there first, dang...

I wish I could try one locally... I have decided to let my Jazz basses go and instead have a Maruszczyk made (Precision body and neck, but Jazz in sound), but this is a Jazz that I could perhaps live with with its slightly chunkier neck and... looking amazing... argh! I hate Basschat sometimes...

I had that issue with a big MM type pickup in a Tanglewood Warrior. I used clear nail varnish over the pole pieces, the one that dries in 60 seconds. A couple of coats was enough. Eventually I fixed it with tape touching all polepieces from below and scratched the nail varnish away. But the nail varnish works, it's easy to apply and it's not really noticeable unless you know it's there.

[quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1467889365' post='3087017'] Sorry Jose, didn't quite catch that? [url="http://s1354.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Altdorfer/media/007_zpsyqmrsugz.jpg.html"][/url] [/quote] mantra: I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. I should sell Jazz basses, not buying more. [...]

I really should stop reading this thread...

shut up all of you I don't need a Jazz even if it's as pretty as that one. go away

[quote name='Light Grenade' timestamp='1466676317' post='3077764'] I'm looking to switch up my cab setup into something a bit more portable, and after doing some reading, I think i'm going to go for 12" speakers, a pair ideally. Basically, due to the amount of brands out there, and where I live, it's pretty tough to 'try before I buy' as every retailer round about where I live seems to purely sell Ashdown. I'm after some portable cabs that have great lows and a rich mid range, I'm not wanting something with that hi-fi, scooped mid sound. I've had my eye on a few different cabs such as the Eden EX-112, Fender Rumble V3 & GK Neo range, but I have no idea what they sound like, and I never trust YouTube demos. I've also had a look the the Orange Isobaric cabs, and played through an SP212 a year or so ago, I was sure I really liked it at the time, but nearly every forum I've read has dragged it's name through the mud (pardon the pun), so that's made me re-think my interest. Major volume isn't a huge issue, as I go through the PA at nearly every gig I play. My budget is approximately £600/£700 and I play a Lakland Skyline 44-01, Mark Bass Big Bang & D'Addario Chrome flats, any help or recommendations would be much appreciated. [/quote] Two TKS S112 cabs. They are *very* portable and very light and just around the top end of your budget. They're not as 'deep' as some other (bigger) cabs, but they are capable of more than enough bottom end and most of all, they sound *fantastic*. The bottom end is very tight, very good definition, and have a great pleasant mid range. edit: ah, I got there late

[quote name='Merton' timestamp='1467185742' post='3081671'] Plus two cabs always looks better than one haha [/quote] Besides this very important point ... I often used two cabs onstage not so much for the extra volume -which was unnecessary just for stage- but because of having a second speaker closer to my ears really help me hearing myself, whilst avoiding turning up the volume much... so it makes balancing things on stage easier. But I doubt it's *necessary* in this case. Looking forward to hearing what the solution is for the OP

[quote name='lowhand_mike' timestamp='1467116461' post='3081267'] eh? so what ive been told is all lies i stand corrected, though whats the point in buying an 800watt amp over a 300 if they dont matter [/quote] (The LM3 is 500W at 4 ohm) Watts sort of matter, but sort of don't. The loudness of your system depends on many factors, not just the watts. We're used to seeing just watts quoted and we tend to think 'whoa, that is 300W more powerful, it must be a hell of a lot louder' when in reality it often isn't that much louder. It soon becomes clear if you try it for yourself. I found out the hard and expensive way

[quote name='6v6' timestamp='1467096123' post='3081076'] Are you using the vpf filter? IME that pulls all the guts out of the sound, so I'd try turning it off if so, and set the eq flat. Good luck! [/quote] That's also a good point. Some people don't realise at first that off is all the way anticlockwise and set it at 12 o'clock... which is going to seriously scoop the sound.

[quote name='modelreject' timestamp='1467043157' post='3080721'] "[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]That's surprising! I'm currently playing my Mark Bass Big Bang through one single 300W cab (meaning my head is running with a max of 250W), and I don't even need to push the gain or master past halfway, and our drummer is the loudest guy on the planet."[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]There may be other frequencies interfering as it is quite synth lead and no guitars.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Hmmmm. Maybe my ear drums are already shot :-) I will have to run through a few more settings at the next re[/font][/color]hearsal. [/quote] I think next time I'd have a chat with the synth person to make sure they don't have tons of bottom end, and maybe experiment with the position of the cab. Maybe that room is difficult, maybe you're getting a lot of boom that makes it all indistinct and you're trying to get better definition by turning up. I generally use a much less powerful single 12" cab for rehearsals. Drummer, three guitars, trumpet and sax plus 2-3 vocals. We are not quiet, and the cab (with an LM3) is more than fine for any size rehearsal room. I used to use a BF Compact a while ago, and although it's a more powerful cab than what I use now I sometimes found myself pushing harder than I do now. It appears that my new cabs give me the sound I want more easily. It's their voicing. Before adding a second speaker or giving up on the LM3, I'd experiment a bit more with what you have. If you end up realising that it's that you don't like the speaker you have, adding another will not be a good idea.

[quote name='lowhand_mike' timestamp='1467042553' post='3080712'] you'll only be using about 150watts (ish) with the one cab, adding another 8ohm cab will make the load 4ohm and you'll get the full 300watts edit: ^^ yeah what they said [/quote] No, the LM3 is 500W at 4 ohm. You get ~300W at 8ohm

[quote name='EliasMooseblaster' timestamp='1467040536' post='3080692'] ...and not always on the bass amp! Is/are your guitarist(s) clogging up your sonic space by cranking their own bass controls too high? [/quote] this is a very good point.

[quote name='modelreject' timestamp='1467034914' post='3080629'] Just my own woes here. Had a band practice on Sunday. Had my Markbass cranked. Full gain and master but had to roll off the gain because it was clipping. 300W through my 8Ohm Barefaced Super Compact. The cab could handle a lot more and I needed the extra volume. Can't return the amp now so will be out a bit of money if I do upgrade :-( Only had it a month so still under warranty. Hopefully someone will take it at near fill price. Fingers crossed. [/quote] I'm a little surprised. I use the LM3 too. Before giving up on it, I would check that it's not something to do with EQ. Are you boosting lows a lot? That can make you run out of power relatively easily. Are guitars/keyboards producing a lot of lows that you're trying to compete with through sheer power rather than adjusting EQ so that everybody has their sonic spot? It seems very strange that you may need to push that amp so much for a rehearsal. Aside from that, I doubt a more powerful amp will help you much. I made that mistake a while ago... I had an LM3 and got the LMT800 because I thought the extra oomph would be useful. It wasn't. I no longer have the LMT800. I do have a Streamliner 900, but I have in the past few months do a few tests with various speakers and amps, and I'm not sure the Streamliner is noticeably louder than the LM3. However! What will give you more volume is adding another speaker. Going from 300 to 500W will not be very effective if using one speaker.

[quote name='Westenra' timestamp='1466786192' post='3078863'] Ok from the nut; Bridge - 86 cm Poles of the bridge pup - 80 cm So is it 60/70s? [/quote] That would be the standard 60s position for a bridge pickup. The neck pickup is 91mm apart (poles to poles) in a 60s spacing Jazz. So you can convert your bass to 60s spacing Jazz.