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[quote name='floFC' timestamp='1418677142' post='2632306'] Hmm. I checked. So the manual doesn't say that but the FAQ on the Ashdown site does, that's where I must have read it (reproduced here, at the end): How can I use headphones on an Ashdown ABM or MAG? The only way is to buy a small battery powered headphone amplifier and plug it into the TUNER OUT with the amp MUTED, or unplug the speakers and use it plugged into the LINE OUT. Other than this if you have a walkman that has a record facility you could use this as a headphone amp.The amp will come to no harm with the speakers unplugged. It is possible to plug headphones into the speaker output but you risk the possibility of blowing up the headphones if you turn the amp up too far I have never been tempted to try! [/quote] Using the tuner/line out the way they say is fine, but I'd never plug into the speaker output. Sure, with the volume at zero it'll be ok, so there must be a range that is ok... but I suspect the range is not too big. I'm surprised they even suggest it. I have to say I'm not an expert! But I seem to recall that headphones would typically take <5V (and often a lot less) and the speaker output will run into double digits... I would not risk it! Thanks for finding that FAQ!

The neck on the MIM Classic 50 is pretty wide and chunky... and I think it's one of the nicest necks. I like big necks too. It's also lacquered, so if you like maple lacquered necks, it's well worth checking out.

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1418554477' post='2631061'] This question (or similar) often crops up and always baffles me - am I the only one who never plugs in at home? I can happily play along to CDs or MP3s either through quiet speakers or in one ear on headphones. [/quote] Playing plugged and unplugged are two entirely different worlds. Do you remember when you were used to playing acoustic guitar, and plugged into an electric guitar for the first time? All the unwanted noises that you needed to mute on the electric instrument, what a racket! It's just very different.

[quote name='floFC' timestamp='1418630474' post='2631752'] I have an Ashdown Electric Blue combo and it has the same limitation (no headphone).[b] If I remember correctly the manual said you could disconnect the cable that plugs the amp into the cab at the back and plug your headphones in there - with a risk of blowing them up[/b] :-D As Grangur said that takes the cab out of the sound chain. Get the manual from the Ashdown website and see what they suggest for your model. [/quote] You sure it said that??? The output of an amplifier that will drive a loudspeaker is going to be a LOT higher than what the headphones are designed to take. Sounds like a very efficient way of destroying headphones!

[quote name='Samfordia' timestamp='1418615363' post='2631725'] What I have is a combo. If it had a phones socket then I'd have no problem. I would like to actually use the amp and familiarise myself with all it can do and the sound I can get from it. At the same time I would like to use my pedals. It's highly possible I'm being a tad thick, though. (The amp does have the ability to connect a phone etc, so that's all okay) [/quote] It would be wonderful if one could judge "real life" sound from using the headphone output only. UNfortunately, the final result depends too much of your speakers, the room you're in, the location/position of speakers within the room, the volume (you cannot play something at low volume, decide you like the tone, and just turn up and expect to sound the same only louder)... and also whatever other instruments are making noise around you, of course. It's useful, as it allows you to play quietly, but that's all.

Here's a quick low-res preview of what's coming, that Barrie from BassGear just emailed me

so am I!!! That was really fast, I'm impressed! unfortunately I'm not going to be at home to be able to do anything with them until after Xmas. I asked Barrie to keep the cabs there when they arrive and send them to me once I'm back, to avoid problems during the worst of the Xmas rush with couriers. Ah, if only I had made up my mind a week earlier!

[quote name='MoJo' timestamp='1418562978' post='2631164'] [b]Why do guitarists buy 50 - 100 watt amps for pub gigs?[/b] It's way too much, If they want that gritty, overdriven tone, get a 15w valve amp and wring it's neck. It'd be like rockin up to a pub gig with two SVT's and two 8x10's [/quote] It's funny, isn't it? We worry and spend so much money trying to reduce bulk and weight... and then, they could just waltz in with a 30W valve combo under they arm, but won't! Crazy! I'd use a very loud Laney LC30 if I were a guitarist. I love that amp. I used to own a VC50, twin 12" combo 50W and that was so heavy and so loud... crazy. But I didn't know better those days.

[quote name='Kevin Dean' timestamp='1418557605' post='2631102'] I was doing a pub gig last night with a new guitarist , He was using a Fender Twin reverb all valve thingy . The on stage volume was absolutely deafening , After the gig He said that he couldn't go any lower to get the sound He needed to get ? I use a PA so I can have a comftable volume & let the PA do the work . If that's true I don't care how good it sounded to the punters I play for a hobby & you're supposed to enjoy hobbies . [/quote] Those amps have a lovely sound, and they're extremely loud with the volume at 1... and heavy as a mountain. Not the best amp for a small stage pub gig. edit: also very directional... if it felt loud on stage, whoever happened to walk right in front of the beam of that amp would have probably felt their fillings rattle

[quote name='Sparky Mark' timestamp='1418487926' post='2630626'] There are plenty of clues within this thread including the photo at the top. If you like the way it sounds then it really doesn't matter one way or the other. If you are simply curious you can undo 4 bolts and slip the head out and compare with my photo. It's likely that both versions were made in 2013. [/quote] Mine is in a CMD121P combo. I think it takes a bit more than the 4 screws and I'm not curious enough to check it out today. Tonight it'll be travelling with me to a gig 60 miles away, together with the BF Compact cab as an extension. If I get bored after soundcheck I might ask for an allen key, but it's unlikely. So... no, no clue yet.

[quote name='Sparky Mark' timestamp='1418484924' post='2630601'] Are you sure that yours is class d? [/quote] No, I have no clue! It's just that the date (01-13) appeared to suggest it would be... but if it clicks in so quickly then maybe it isn't. I don't knooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

[quote name='Sparky Mark' timestamp='1418480868' post='2630549'] I have noticed that the new head takes 8 seconds for the output relay to 'click' after switching the amp on. This is much longer than the original design and may be an easier way of telling which version you have. [/quote] Really? Just tested mine (01-13) ... just under 2 seconds.

[quote name='tbonepete' timestamp='1418480770' post='2630547'] It's alright. I thought the sound from an original series combo (yellow combo head) that I used on a gig share for about a year was nicer, and I've had many posts privately back and forth with Marco on the sound difference between the two models, primarily concerned about the speaker changes, and move to Asian production with no clear indication as to the changes. So I guess it's a yes, AND no to your question. To me it's important that I get what I thought I'd paid for, and I bought the combo on the strength of the old one I'd used, but I appreciate that to others this isn't so important. Cheers Pete [/quote] I was asking trying to see whether the answer would actually explain anything you feel about its sound. I guess if the one you used before and this one have a slightly different design, that could explain it and would be reassuring to know that you were not imagining things and you're -probably - not crazy Mine is dated 01-13, so I guess it uses the D-type power module. I'm happy with it, so I don't mind... but they should really update their specs to reflect what they're actually selling, I agree.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1418479590' post='2630531'] Sac-up, you twink! [/quote] Well, I know that I won't be losing my cables anymore to other band members (or other bands sometimes even) when they pack in a hurry "oh, sorry, I thought it was one of mine!"

[quote name='tbonepete' timestamp='1418479357' post='2630526'] Oops, just read the first post properly, and I have my answer. My amp was bought in 2012 so I've got my fingers crossed that I have an old one, Cheers Pete [/quote] But, do you like the way it sounds?

Getting back on-topic... my pink Klotz cable arrived. I'll try it tonight. Maybe I'll arrange for the band to play the same song twice and I'll quickly swap cables to compare. "Dundee, are you ready to skank???!!!"

[quote name='Diablo' timestamp='1418467475' post='2630395'] Not meaning to take this thread off topic, but with wireless it is a whole new world of confusion here. The signal depends on the air temp, humidity, and of course distance. If you want to play behind the beat a little you move further from your receiver, or place a guitard between you and the receiver so the signal has to go round them. To play in front of the beat you can stand right next to the Rx. Hot humid conditions (like a frontmans crotch for instance) give deeper bass sounds, dry cold ones give a bright tone suitable for twiddly playing. of course the 2.4GHz frequency band signals get to the Rx faster than lower AM frequencies so you must adjust your playing to accommodate [b]otherwise you'll easily end up half a beat ou[/b]t. Cheers, Rich [/quote] That's why on some bands you need a "heavily built" person. They could just mime if they don't play an instrument. Their gravitational pull can be use to modulate the wireless signal to compensate for these effects. You just need to know where to place them. That's how Meat Loaf started his career, and then he realised he could actually sing.

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1418454242' post='2630303'] What if you use a wireless ? Edit Just checked on the box it states this model emulates black cables, I googled it and their is an American cap on YouTube that shows you how to do an easy internal mod to make it emulate other colored cables, [u][b]whilst eating a sandwich[/b][/u]. [/quote] what kind? any cucumber in it?

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1418368318' post='2629548'] Hmmmm...? [/quote] The cabs I ordered have been already made and are being shipped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!! excitable me? nah...

[excited little girl mode] OMG OMG OMG OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote name='knoxy26' timestamp='1401359903' post='2462760'] Wow! Cheers for all the responses guys. Im going to be running the Amp through a Barefaced Big Baby II. Hopefully going to be able to go give these a go. I have been edging towards the Aguilar as thats what I am most used to, but now Im more interested in the GK and the Genz. Its thats feeling that your always going to be missing out not matter what you get.... . [/quote] Big Baby 2? THat's what I use with the Streamliner 900... I love the combination! I used a LM3 and a LMT800 too, but the Streamliner wins, for me. I also tried a TH500 through it... Nice sound, but fiddly, and too dark. Streamliner FTW

[quote name='Graham' timestamp='1401211042' post='2461260'] A used Genz Streamliner is a good one to try out too - warm, punchy and buckets of power. I'd love to give a GK Fusion a spin myself and the Tonehammer has always sounded good to me when I've heard one. [/quote] A Genz Benz Streamliner 600 or 900, indeed! Sound huge, and to my ears better than the ToneHammer. The TH500 is nice, but I get frustrated with how everything interacts with everything else... the Streamliner is simple, and is more versatile soundwise.

As the direct result of this thread, I've just ordered a 6m pink Klotz cable. See what you've done, BeardyBob??? I bet you're proud, now!

[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1418291976' post='2628779'] Mine has arrived. Cosmetically it looks utterly perfect, but the low E string rattles a bit when played down near the nut. As it's only the E string, I wonder if the nut is cut too low, rather than there being not enough relief, or even a back-bow, in the neck. Otherwise it appears that the action is comfortable and low (I haven't played fretless much), and it sounds reasonable for an acoustic. Even though I haven't put the flat wound strings on it, it doesn't sound too twangy. It looks very nice. When I have time after work, I'm going to google filling in a nut with superglue and filing it back again. I have talked to Thomann on the phone about the overcharging. They didn't believe me when I said that I had applied the voucher, but said that I can have it applied retrospectively. Has anyone ever bought products from Thomann, using paypal to pay for them? If so, I would like to ask questions about the total order amount (including postage), what paypal said that you would pay, and the amount that was actually deducted. [/quote] I suspect the exact amount may vary a bit, as exchange rates fluctuate (they operate in Euros), but it's not going to be a great change for the most part.

That's it, I'm ordering a 6m pink Klotz cable.