Mr. Foxen

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1361201522' post='1982641'] Why would there be a price tag on a file format? that would be stupid. The price tag is on the sites that you download music from, like iTunes. But sure, why bother paying? we've already established that there is next to no chance that you would ever get any form of charges brought against you for it, so you might as well, eh? i mean, because you can, you should, yeah? There's a gun in this house. Maybe i should grab it and start firing shells off everywhere? y'know, it's within my means, so why not? [/quote] It has the tag there for info, if someone is so desperate keen for there to be a price tag, then it can have one, but it doesn't, much like, as you point out, a cold doesn't have a price tag. It it is replicatable, like the cold virus, chances are I don't want it, like the cold virus, it can be passed between people without the person passing it on ceasing to have it, like the cold virus and like the cold virus, it has no price tag. Now explain which bit is similar to randomly firing a gun that you have.

[quote name='geoham' timestamp='1361175244' post='1982100'] This is mostly true. The only exception I can think of is disconnecting some of the drivers. For example, say you have 4 x 4 ohms wired 2 series / 2 parallel - , this would give you 4 ohms in total. Disconnecting one of the parallel circuits, leaving you with just two in series would give you 8 ohms. You could make this switchable if you wanted. [/quote] Running some drivers and not others that share a box is a pretty bad idea, the unpowered drivers work as passive radiators and mess up the box tuning, meaning the remaining ones can fart out and die really easily.

I just checked the ID tags on mp3s and there isn't a price field there either.

[quote name='hunt the shunt' timestamp='1361182435' post='1982209'] I cant imagine why anyone would want a shorter, fatter 8x10??? Cab width was originally determined by the big valve amp chassis, and later by the fashion for rack mounting. With the current market of high power compact heads I should have thought there would be more demand for taller and skinnier cabs. [/quote] They are going for the big valve amp sort of market, definitely not the lightweight crew, these are unbraced cabs (they actually claimed panel resonance is part of the tone) so made of really heavy ply.

Have you sued the max power handling graph in WinISD? That's fairly informative.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1361187918' post='1982335'] Out of interest how much of your current "success" is built on your previous 10 years at EMI and contacts you made in the business from that time? [/quote] What's interesting is how many of those contacts have become completely irrelevant. I've moved one train station away now, but 2 years ago, I could walk a hundred yards down the road from my house and have pro CD replication done (while I waited one time), go home and print off labels from my pc of people who wanted them who'd been in touch via the internet and distribute them all over the world from the post office next door. And hard media like that is only for the paying sorts, all of that cost and effort is negated by making the music available for download. Additionally, where I live now, there are two pro studios within walking distance, and once I have the recordings from there, I can send them literally anywhere in the world for mixing and mastering. The only two things standing in the way of making all the relevant contacts is not putting the effort in, and not having music of any interest to them. [quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1361190918' post='1982404'] I seem to have stolen a cold from someone this morning. [/quote] This is basically how I feel about 90% of music I hear for free. As for the vinyl thing, tape releases are being one a fair bit now.

Value is unlikely to be high, because massively unfashionable, but I think that is the nice end of Trace cabs.

I think lemon oil might be a bit meaningless, in that it can be applied to many things, some are detergent cleaning products that will dry your board, but all the recommended ones are actually oils that will benefit. Danish oil is another one, some is wipe on varnish, but the good stuff is tung oil and dryers. Dunlop is good lemon oil, Rustins is good tung oil.

Doesn't matter what drivers are in the cab, you can't change from 4 ohm to 8ohm without replacing them.

[quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1361145387' post='1981964'] This topic seems to come up quite regularly on here and it's interesting how attitudes have changed. The first time I entered this debate here was about 3 years ago and I was in a minority and got attacked from all sides for my views. Now, the tide has changed, with more folks accepting the changes and I am pleased. Not because I want to 'win' an argument on the internet, but because it reflects a wider acceptance in society. File sharing is part of a greater revolution in our culture, which gives me hope for all our futures - power to the people [/quote] I started off basically in favour of protection of copyright work, but in these discussions, the arguments for were incredibly weak, entirely reliant on false analogies, pretty much brought me round. The persistent use of 'file sharing' to avoid the false term 'illegal downloading' in the UK when taking an anti positionshows up the nastyness, since sharing is a good thing.

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1361139281' post='1981839'] Of course it affects people who make music. [/quote] [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1361138115' post='1981802'] Oh, nobody really, just record companies, the people who work with record labels and the music industry in general. [/quote] Which is it? The effect on people who make music is that they don't need record companies any more.

I don't think there needs to be an 'industry' in the corporate sense, there isn't anything they can do that you can't do yourself any more. The only thing is the assumption that someone else will invest in something you won't invest in yourself is even less true than ever.

Indie: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Indie-IRK-Bass-/330875205448?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4d09b2f748"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item4d09b2f748[/url] KAy: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Kay-Short-Scale-Bass-Guitar-/230930848377?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item35c48d1a79

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1361138115' post='1981802'] Oh, nobody really, just record companies, the people who work with record labels and the music industry in general. [/quote] Ha, so not anyone who actually makes music then.

[quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1361137720' post='1981789'] Plenty of people benefit from it, but who is actually losing all this money that you are all so worried about? [/quote] All the people who were obviously going to be massively wealthy music stars if it wasn't for being held back by people who listen to music on the internet, obviously. This guy was going to make it until his video got leaked onto the internet before the record label gave him a contract: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2oua7nITx4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2oua7nITx4[/url] Edit: bah, video not embedding.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1361135017' post='1981723'] So what are new ways that music artists can make enough money to live on from their work? And don't give me that bollocks about great art coming from suffering. Great art comes from having the time and energy to put into creating it, instead of having to spend most resources into other things in order to be able to put food on the table and a roof over your head. [/quote] Making money off things is the ideas thing, mentioned earlier. You were pretty insistent such stuff needs paying for. But currently, see all professional musicians doing original work. Not like they don't exist. [quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1361135066' post='1981726'] Illegal downloading is not stealing. It is illegal, [/quote] Illegal downloading might be illegal, but under UK law, downloading music from illegal uploaders isn't illegal. Go try and find a single case of someone being convicted/sued for downloading music illegally in the UK. It happens in the US, but here, its uploading that triggers copyright breach and that means the uploader, including people who share files. [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1361135990' post='1981753'] Oh, stop being so pedantic, would you? [/quote] If you insist on using analogies, its kind of necessary they work on a basic level.

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1361131308' post='1981618'] Some guitars, i like enough to buy, some i think are OK, but i would be happy enough to not own it. Some i wouldn't ever buy. [/quote] You think its OK to try and not buy because the shop still has the guitar after you tried it?

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1361130022' post='1981576'] It's all very well going on about giving people the freedom to invent and create, but if he can't also provide a way that allows these inventors and creators a way to earn money from their work, how can they create and invent effectively when they have to spend the majority of their time doing something else in order to be able to afford to live? This doesn't enable people at all. It more than ever keeps the resources to dictate who creates and invents in the hands of those who already have money. Meet the new boss - same as the old boss. [/quote] Just because the way that worked 30 years ago doesn't any more doesn't mean there aren't new ways. Record labels as part of the music industry as established with shellc discs are the old boss, and they don't relate to most music being produced currently [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1361130147' post='1981581'] This is your opinion. What music you like has no place in this. We can just assume that all music is governed the same and the artist has the same rights as ever y other artists. [/quote] If all music is the same, then we can ignore the stuff that demands payment in favour of the stuff that is cheerfully free, because there are countless people who are keen to have their music listened to, rather than having to be compensate financially for the terrible burden of people hearing their music. [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1361130147' post='1981581'] Of course it's a sale opportunity. I've bought plenty of albums after listening to them on spotify, which if you read the thread, you know that i do pay for my use of that, but that is not the same as taking an album without paying for it. It's like playing a guitar in the shop before buying it. [/quote] Do you buy every guitar you try, or do you actually decide most of them aren't worth the money?

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1361129162' post='1981552'] I would say it was more like your mum having Doritios, then make an exact duplicate and giving it to you, giving both you and her Doritos, one of which were purchased above board, and the other is a copy, which DID deprive Tesco of a sale. [/quote] Home cooking is killing ready meals?

Sounds like you play covers. That's like making copies, but live.

They were definitely working on a small lighweight amp, it wasn't tube preamp though, too close to the Terror bass, I've spoken to them about it. You can still run a Matamp style preamp on FETs instead of valves.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1361124185' post='1981419'] That's not what I said. I was saying was that it is somewhat disingenuous for Twigman to claim that his band's current success is built upon file sharing, when without the fact that Sad Lovers And Giants sold enough records under the old business model to carry on recording they would have nothing worth sharing in the first place. [/quote] It would seem that his records weren't worth distributing under the old business model, hence their lapse into obscurity, until the new improved model brought them back. current success is down to file sharing, regardless of their old success, or intervening lack thereof.

The previous model existed in a different time, that's why its previous and not current. Now you have to do things differently. Keeping doing things the old way is the problem, not the fact a different way exists now.

Music and professional musicians existed before sound recording. Downloading doesn't infringe copyright, because the copying is done uploader end, so in this country, there isn't 'illegal downloading', its the difference between making a burned cd and being given one, making the copy is a different thing to receiving it. If you see proper articles on the subject its always filesharing and uploading that is the illegal thing, torrents come under this because they upload at the same time as downloading. Vast amounts of music out there is totally rubbish, no-one has an obligation to pay for rubbish work they don't want done, if you want to make money from something, you need to do it in such a way to make money, failing to do so is not something you can blame on anyone else. People will check out something that is free that they'd never pay for, so a free listening isn't a lost sale, its a sale opportunity. Digital media formats that can be copied are inherently limited to sound, physical formats aren't, so you can still produce a music product as a saleable item, and its much easier to do so now that it was before, the recording costs have dropped vastly since the music industry became established, so the space to invest in the product outside of the recorded stuff is there, and all the necessary contacts to make such things are easily available due to the digital communication medium, you don't need a labels worth of accumulated contacts any more, you can just ask on a forum and be sent to all of the necessary people to make a product. But making excuses and blaming technology is easier.