Mr. Foxen

[quote name='thunderider' timestamp='1356735096' post='1913161'] i have the 2 outer bass sliders up full [/quote] This is all of the problem.

Blackstar HT valve pedals for responsive valvey overdrive as per guitar amps.

[quote name='ThomBassmonkey' timestamp='1356643697' post='1912051'] Distortion comes from the pre-amp, people prefer valves for this as they distort warmly rather than solid state, which can do some nasty things when distorted (though I've never had any problems with my 2001RB that sounds beautiful when overdriven.) If you have a full valve amp, the power section will be valve too, some people prefer this as it can change the tone in a way they like. For me, the preamp is for tone shaping and the power amp is mainly for amplifying the signal. In your case, is there any reason you can't crank the pre-amp and turn down the power section on your hybrid amps? A solid state amp should sound similar at any volume. If you're using distortion, maybe you like the sound of your speakers distorted, though you won't be able to replicate that at lower volumes whatever you do with the speakers you have. [/quote] Distortion can come from the preamp, or the power amp. All distortion pedals are preamp distortion. Power amps can also distort. Valve power sections tend toward sounding good when they distort, solid state ones tend to be too powerful to distort before the speakers, and tend to sound nasty anyway. Exceptions apply, but that is the general thing.

It is all about people using terms without knowing what they mean. Like the obsession with saying point to point when pretty much nothing is all point to point, and its a terrible way of making an amp. The thing to differentiate is a valve power section vs a solid state one, and ditto with the preamp, because a valve power section is where a lot of the sound stuff is, but instead of just saying that, people go for 'all valve' to mean a preamp and power amp valves, even though it isn't all valve. Also, the main advantage as far as I've observed, of a limited valve preamp is that people can't make their tone really bad with rubbish eqing by doing it by eye, which is really common.

Its doing the function of a power strip, less stuff to plug in. The only other task it could be doing is regulating the power supply to other equipment, and if that was necessary, it would indicate that equipment lacks the ability to regulate its own power supply, which throws the idea of being picky about their gear out the window.

Like a power strip, except you get given them for free when you are in a big band.

Not if they are designed right. Marshalls have the reliance on distortion to sound good thing going on hence the guitard thing where they have to be too loud all of the time. Proper volume controls give you control of your volume, its only power valve breakup that you should miss without turning up loads, which sounds great, but sounding bad without it is a bad sounding amp.

[quote name='WinterMute' timestamp='1356532503' post='1910813'] Why is it that people like Alex Lifeson and Geddy Lee use them as part of their touring rigs then? Is that to smooth out suspect supply in various venues? I thought good conditioners were all about keeping the supply constant, not restricting it? [/quote] Uninterruptible power supplies are the thing that actually does that. Power conditioners vary in snake oil content from being channel strips, to being current limiting devices.

Sounds like your problem isn't valves, its Marshalls.

Old school cabs had less bass.

Less low end basically. I have both port plugs in mine, is heading to a clean guitar cab territory, kinda like a sealed cab. I use it for my dirty guitary side.

All depends on the player and the playing. I've had a rickenbacker in that the guy had from new and it was beaten enough that the binding had separated.

[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1356301501' post='1909064'] So what the Bejesus are they doing there? All I can think of is some once had the Pups out, the magnets picked up a couple of washers and were returned without noticing.. Bit of a mystery [/quote] Easily done, do they fit the jack socket? Does it stand fairly proud of its mounting hole? Take it to bits, put the bits in a box, those are the things that will stick and not be missed as it will go together without them.

I reckon Leo intended them to break and buy a new one in about 5 years or so.

I'd expect the jack to be way louder than the 15 alone, aside from voicing differences. The phase with the jack might be loads more complicated due to the hybrid design though, so its unlikely to agree with the 15 over much of its range.

Yeah, mouse mat. Magnet halves shouldn't need connecting, are ceramic so not really conductive anyway.

See if cutting as much as it can is audible at 31 hz, cutting stuff your cabs aren't making sound is always going to be a win. Use the sweep to find when the cut becomes audible.

[quote name='fleabag' timestamp='1356293954' post='1908946'] I can certainly set the low shelf to 45hz, and cut at that freq. [/quote] Probably best leaving as low as it will go and cutting, it will cut some above 45 and heads toward less ideal. Or set it to cut loads, and shift the freq up until you actually hear a tone change, then go back a bit.

I don't recall finding those washers in any Thunders I've had. Slice of mouse mate should sort the foam.

Real smooth playing.

Work on the assumption the cabs aren't giving you anything below about 45hz, so pulling down the lows will give you a tone more headroom.

Use just one of the cabs, figure which one you like. The inherent issues of mixed cabs pretty much throw eq out the window.