Mr. Foxen

More thinking about where the roll off is. some fanes are very bright, others aren't, as a point of comparison to the VT.

[quote name='bertbass' timestamp='1340493160' post='1705359'] There is an awful lot of talk and very little action on this thread, [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/171416-adding-dampening-to-a-cab/"]http://basschat.co.u...ening-to-a-cab/[/url] about what you've just done. I'm glad that you tried it and didn't just talk about it. I'm pleased that it's worked out and that you're happier with you're sound. I dampened my cab as well and also think it sounds a lot better, a tighter more solid sound. [/quote] The two main contributors in that thread are a speaker maker and a former speaker maker. Pretty sure they've racked up a fair bit of doing in their time.

[quote name='Tech21NYC' timestamp='1340117689' post='1699363'] The Leeds is designed to sound like a Hiwatt vs the Ampeg sounds of the VT Bass. I like the Leeds for bass. YMMV. I usually set it for a very mild overdrive. It can be a very clean pedal if you want and has a nice high end sparkle. It's always best to try for yourself. [/quote] Does it have the speaker emulating roll off like the VT?

You have to square it because it works on area not length. The Pi part cancels out.

Note first one linked is made in Korea, and the later one is made in England. Not that it makes any actual odds, compared loads and there is as much variation in ones made in the same place as between the different places.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1340475659' post='1705087'] Is that an Ebow he's using? [/quote] Says two ebows. Not actually paid much attention to watching the vid because I use totally different technique to do sustained notes, plus he tends to pull the sort of faces I try and avoid seeing in other sorts of movie.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1340449148' post='1704552'] I was interested mainly re a post about Tim Commerford's bass sound... hardly likely to nail [i]that [/i]with one pedal though imho, given the complexity of the rig he was using with Audioslave... any comments about this? [/quote] Only one amp is the problem, multiple very coloured amps, wonder if you cna get it with multiple VT pedals though. Should gather some and try it into one of my PA heads.

Valves are plug and play, so borrow a known good one and try it. Wiggle the one in there might also help, it is a dodge connection somewhere, might also be cracked solder joint, but not heard of that on a Hartke LH.

[quote name='heminder' timestamp='1340468070' post='1704909'] last i checked mechanical switches (especially heavy duty stomp switches) were a lot more expensive than jellybean electronics components. that's a reason we don't see mechanical switches on everyday consumer electronics. [/quote] Still need a heavy duty stomp switch for buffered bypass, since it still needs a switch that is stomped. Plenty of mechanical switches in my household electronics, like all the power on and light switches.

[quote name='BassPimp66' timestamp='1340466409' post='1704862'] OK, got it! You put a big switch versus a buffer. It's cheaper. So, you tell everybody it sounds better. How did I fall for that??? [/quote] That is basically it, although the buffer needs to be done well to work properly. The thing that got people into the habit of believing it was explained in the link, the early wah pedals caused a lot of tone problems due to simple switching, switching them to true bypass did improve matters, the assumption that the same would be applicable to other things was the mistake.

[quote name='JimBobTTD' timestamp='1340465571' post='1704843'] Link above is from a company which makes pedals. Not really unbiased stuff. Whether true bypass is something you want is another discussion; it is a real thing and not simply a large switch or marketing bollocks. Yes, it changes your pickups' impedance which, in turn, changes the sound coming from them. That is also why people buy pedals! [/quote] It all checks out, the only thing it justifies is an engineering decision that produces a cost to the company. Its the best explanation I have found to link to on the subject. The idea that true bypass preserves tone is the bollocks bit, because it doesn't.

[quote name='JimBobTTD' timestamp='1340461775' post='1704779'] True bypass is removing as much stuff out of the signal path when the effect is off as possible. I wouldn't call it marketing bollocks and it is way more than a big switch. Perhaps some reading up about what it is would be a good idea. [/quote] In practice they mean a constantly changing impedance load on your pickups, which changes the sound coming from them. Buffered bypass is superior for consistent sound and to avoid the switching noise: http://www.tech21nyc.com/technotes/index.html

[quote name='BassPimp66' timestamp='1340454642' post='1704632'] - High excursion speakers = isn't it the speaker job to excursiate big time? [/quote] The sound of them failing to excurt is important to some tones. And plenty of stuff doesn't have high excursion speakers, so it tells you they might actually handle some power. Much more useful thing than watt ratings. 'Handwired' is one, things can still be wired craply by hand. Also 'point to point' and 'true point to point', firstly, no it isn't, and secondly, actually being point to point is a terrible way to make something. It has got so silly that someone will point to a massive green pcb in the middle of an amp and declare it to still be 'true point to point'.

How do you go about logging them then? Paper or electronic?

[quote name='OliverBlackman' timestamp='1339676038' post='1692456'] PRS send scouts out to find out what songs are being performed most and how many covers are played in bars, pubs, venues ect. and then charge a fee based on averages. It's a big operation. [/quote] [quote name='dood' timestamp='1339667895' post='1692186'] I once played a covers gig and two retired ladies came in with PRS cards asking for a list of the covers that we play, as the venue was getting a 'spot check' from PRS. I assume these surveys are to get an idea what material is being performed in venues, but I can certainly see that this isn't an exhaustive survey! [/quote] So should we sort a co-operative thing so if any of use are asked what songs we cover, we tell the PRS we cover each other's songs, keep the money in the community.

Oh yeah, adding sustain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx1RccwlF5g Kinda more polite volumes than I sue to do stuff like this.

The decay envelop is part of the tone of a bass so how you manipulat eit is important, and its much easier to cut with muting than to improve by technique. I sustain notes for ages, minutes, because that is the sort of music I play. A lot of that comes down to acoustic feedback though, but the natural sustain is important to the colour.

The Ashdown was a Peacemaker 100w Custom, designed by Dave Green of Matamp (at the time). I've had two, one had gold plated turrets. This is the slightly less nice one: [IMG]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/Incarante/Ashdown%20Peacemaker/P1010206.jpg[/IMG] Fairly equivalent to a Green era Matamp, but less tidy wiring, I'd guess assembly went to bit more production line bods than it would have at Matamp. Think the Promethean clones are half rack, and someone could knock you up a half rack valve pre I should think.

[quote name='danhkr' timestamp='1340369628' post='1703445'] Really it was a response to someone who said you'd have to bin a solid state amp when it goes wrong. That isn't true and I simply pointed out that the majority of decent (I didn't say handmade, boutique or top-end) valve amps are made similarly. It seems alot of people think that by spending £1500 on an amp they're getting some kind of indistructable bomb-proof piece of kit. My point was, thats not always the case. [/quote] Aside from the Ashdown you mentioned, the others aren't decent, they are just overpriced. I've been in examples of them all and they are sub Peavey build quality. Cheap Ashdown SS stuff is easy to work on and they send you the parts easily, the Ashdown valve amp I had was handwired to boutique quality. Orange amps are hot glued together.

They are low end examples that make them comparable to mass produced solid state amps, the quality level at the available is far higher for valve amps. So you are trying to compare poor quality valve amps to standard quality solid state amps. ~Work with equivalents, and you might have a valid comparison.

[quote name='danhkr' timestamp='1340368425' post='1703424'] Never said it did, just that they are few and far between and not as 'commercially' accessible. My original point was that the majority of what most recognise as 'high-end' valve gear (eg Ampeg, Orange, Ashdown etc) aren't really made much better than their equivalent solid-state variants. Thats not to say one is better than the other or none of them are good amps, just that reliability and repair-ability are similar. Its a myth that buying (for eg) a new Orange valve head is getting you an indestructible 'tank' like amp, just as it's equally a myth that buying a SS Ashdown means you'll need to bin it first time it goes wrong. [/quote] Those all aren't very well made amps. Again, just because they are overpriced and heavily marketed, doesn't make them valid examples. Mcdonalds sell a lot more burgers than anywhere else, doesn't mean they are hold up examples of restaurant eating.

[quote name='XB26354' timestamp='1340300036' post='1702599'] This is wider than music, it's anything that can be obtained electronically. Software, anyone? It is stealing. It is be a commercial product for sale that has taken time and effort for skilled people to produce which technology allows people to get for free. If you could get Dulux paint or your weekly shop off the back of a lorry, stolen, what's the difference, just because you can see the object? Is there even a music industry left? Who makes a living from music unless it's covers or functions, or one of the few fading bands on their last hurrah? [/quote] The difference between software and tangibles is when you take a tangible, you've removed it from someone else, the 'intention to permanently deprive' that is part of the definition of Theft, whereas the electronic stuff you've made a copy of, leaving the originator with just as much as they had before. So that would be mixing up your own paint to use, or growing your own groceries in such a way they are the same as that on the lorry, without them ever having to fall of the lorry, which continues to its intended location, which you no longer have to go to, because you've already sorted yourself for that stuff.

Can't make valves in the EU, so all EU means is paying for a middle man. If its vintage pre valves you want, you should come to me. Might be able to point you at some vintage power ones too.