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One could easily hook up to a FaderFox product and have all the physical dials one could wish for. Also, in the MIDI map there is a parameter which allows one to change what the two control knobs are assigned to on the fly so one has access to potentially 128 knob choices.

Seems we write similar things at the same time.

If you’re only using a limited number of sounds (or even if you’re not) you can use a mobile device plugged into the USB port to change patches on the C4 which overcomes the lack of display. The advantage of a MIDI controller is being able to jump to specific patches without having to scroll through the list. Anyway, this is a bit off-topic and mightbe more usefully and thoroughly discussed on the C4 thread. What do you think to the accuracy of the patches?

Yes and yes (but not via WiFi - needs a USB cable).

Definitely easier to get closer with the FI.

30 seconds in and I know I'm going to be checking all of this!

@Al Krow, here you go, C4 here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-4iDvVBcznF2RPZKFsEQfdugkJlBbHbo/view?usp=sharing Here on FI: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FsP2kAyLlJQLmhfoYRN0v12hl3w8PQxr/view?usp=sharing

Sounds pretty straightforward, like a single sawtooth but with something maybe beefing out the bottom end. Not sure if the C4 envelope shape choices will capture it though; FI would probably though.

Excellent! Thanks for sharing.

Love it when I discover the original source of tunes from my youth and find they are superior to the one I know.

Spotted them on the Ernie Ball Musicman shop but it was a US-only exclusive. That at least established their existence as a product so I did some ferreting around, noticed that Strings Direct had the assemblies so sent them an enquiry. It took a while to get them but they should have them directly in stock now.

I’ve included direct links in the amended original post.

Sorry, that was my mistake! I shared both the FI and C4 versions of this patch on the respective C4 and FI platforms: https://auraplug.com/fidatabase2/downloads/only-on-paper/ https://neuro.sourceaudio.net/preset/ZzaOJACaMw https://neuro.sourceaudio.net/preset/U1nCGeVgKY

Here’s an interesting exercise: same line played on a Moog Subsequent 37, C4 and FI. Sadly I didn’t match the volume levels properly which makes it seem like the FI is weaker than the others. https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/DQbpZBKtTppoppVY8 https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/uu1Ky3v1iDc4ujH67 https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/ReySVmgchkcLcups5

Nathan’s videos with the FI are old v2 ones. The tracking and sound possibilities have been greatly enhanced since then. What do you mean by “basic synth sounds”? Bear in mind, some lines on records are made using polysynths in unison mode which allow the stacking of many oscillators on a single note (up to 48 in the case of a 16-voice, 3-oscillator synth). Neither the C4 or FI will be able to get close to that kind of craziness.

It’s not so much quick jumps. It’s possible to play pretty fast semiquaver lines, the key is to make sure the previous note is muted before following note is struck. The only artefact as such is a product of the FI’s fast tracking: it spits out the last-played note as soon as a trigger is detected but the time it takes for the pitch information to be read is slightly longer (as it needs to “see” a full waveform before pitch can be determined), so you sometimes hear a pitch blip as it jumps to the correct note, this is more noticeable with bigger intervals.

If you can point to particular demos (better still, point to which patches were being used) then I could potentially match them and compare and post a blind test.

That’s really not the case. The C4 will glitch if not played cleanly and clean technique enables getting around on both pedals equally well. As a testament to that, I leaned Greg Phillingaines’ line on Chaka Khan’s version of “We Can Work It Out” which has some fiendish licks in it and I recorded it using both C4 and FI and both pedals performed about the same.

I’ve written fairly extensively on the relative merits of each over the last year. Read my posts on here, Talkbass and The Gear Page. Just a few days ago, I posted some examples of sounds that each does that the other can’t on the C4 thread on Talkbass. @CameronJ has it right with the interface, Source Audio is really slick in that regard and has been why the C4 has taken off in such a big way since it was launched last August. SA is also very marketing-savvy. However, C4 still can’t touch the FI when it comes to oscillator options and precise envelope control. What do you mean by “organic”? If you mean it lacks the tuning variances and natural phasing of analogue, it’s very easy to program these in. Tracking is pretty similar on both pedals (though is quite patch-dependent). My honest opinion is that it’s totally worth it and justifiable to own and use both.

OC-2 vs OC-5 from Janek. Incidentally, his personal OC-2 is the one MXR used to make their Vintage Bass Octave.

@Daveybm responded to my wanted ad for a Stingray hard case within a couple of days of my posting it. He had a brand new one. He duly sent me photos of it upon my request and, as he didn’t have any feedback here, he directed me to his eBay feedback, all of which was good. We sorted all the details really quickly and he got it packed back up and posted off the same day. I’ve just received it today and it’s absolutely as described and I couldn’t be happier. I’d have no hesitation in recommending Dave and would be happy to trade with him again. I hope this is the first of many smooth transactions for him here on Basschat. Many thanks, Dave; I can now rest easy knowing my Ray is safe in its case.

And as for headstocks, this is a prime example. MIDI bass is a brilliant thing but if using a classic design, why mess with it like this?

You’ll hate this I spotted in an eBay ad a while ago (see photo below). I nearly threw up I quite like mine, I did try to disguise the J pickup (see photo below): I tried to put my white pickup cover to good use (see photo below). It’s painted with the same paint as the body. That’s the first single-cut I’ve liked the look of.

I have two Laklands but am with you on the bridge shape.