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Quatschmacher
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The hardware switcher still has its own firmware and could probably be updated if Tech 21 were of a mind to offer the feature. Have you asked them? I don’t have a problem in adding a line to the manual stating that the FI responds as it should 1:1 to the PC messages it is sent. Code space in the FI is preciously low and there are some yet-to-be implemented features which require it more pressingly. It’s always a trade-off as to what features most users are going to find important, and I say this with no exaggeration or malice but you are literally the only person who has raised this particular point with regard to the FI (that I’m aware of) in all the discussion I’ve had and read about the product over the past few years.
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And I fully agree with Andras; the FI behaves as it should and shows program 1 when sent PC 1. So I stand by my statement that the “problem” is with the controller. Your controller is likely displaying 1 but sending PC 0, which you could verify by plugging it into any MIDI monitoring software such as MIDIOX or C6.
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Just to be clear, that group is NOT the manufacturer’s support group. It’s a group I set up as a discussion forum for users who might not be on here or Talkbass.
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I did write the manual as I volunteered to do it after getting involved in voluntary patch writing and bug testing as I thought it would benefit users. You probably missed that info as it was in the old FI thread which I started as a means to helping users get their head around it. I locked thy thread and started this one when v3 was launched as much of the information was superseded. I wasn’t apportioning blame and I can understand that thinking I were one of their employees would be a reasonable conclusion to draw. Hopefully all is clarified now.
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On another note, given the founder of MIDI is alive and well, we could ask him which “standard” is correct. Dave Smith of Sequential is pretty engaged with the community and even has a weekly “ask sequential” slot which the company puts out on YouTube and other social media on Fridays. Or check the official standard here: https://www.midi.org Again, no sarcasm intended. I’m curious myself.
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@prowla, @GisserD is correct. The “support” I do on these pages is done as a hobby, albeit one I'm pretty serious about. I’m not a company representative in an official capacity. (I also spend time on the SA and Morningstar communities helping out people for which I am also not paid. I spent well over an hour last night helping someone to troubleshoot a controller issue.) As far as there being a standard 0-127 is more usual. If you think about it from a standard parameter standpoint; which is more logical - a volume control or LFO depth that runs from 1-128 or one that runs 0-127, especially when zero volume or LFO depth is present? There are probably plenty of controllers out there which will work just fine. I merely recommended the MC6 as it’s fantastic and does so much useful and cool stuff. It allows amazing possibilities on the FI. Also, as I mentioned, James at Morningstar is very receptive to customer input and feedback and has already expressed interest in adding a feature which will deal with these out-by-one issues on some other devices. (Out of interest, have you used the controller to control your Minitaur? That’s another device which runs 0-127 I believe as PC engages panel mode.) Please don’t read any sarcasm or snippiness in my tone as none is intended.
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I originally did this on my Moog Subsequent 37. I then recreated it using the C4 a couple of days ago and now I've done an FI version. Patch is available on the Panda online database site.
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The FI isn't the issue rather the controller you used. My MC8 uses 0-127 and PC 1 on it corresponds to PC 1 on the FI. If you can, get a device that allows the limiting of PC scroll messages (like the MC6 and MC8 do) and simply set the lower and upper limits as 1 and 99 respectively and it all works perfectly.
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I woke up with a cool idea this morning. Those of you who follow the FI thread may have seen that I came up with a way to play five-note II-V-I progressions which have all smooth voice leading which changes depending on which direction the roots move (up a 4th/down a 5th). I’ve just thought of a way to get the voice leading to work on the C4’s harmoniser using my MC8. The 3rds and 7ths will be straightforward; the 5ths, 6ths and 9ths will be trickier but I think I can do it. I think I’ll be able to do my chord inversions idea too. Annoyingly I’m going to be busy with other stuff all day so probably won’t be able to get to it until tomorrow or Monday. Watch this space...
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It’s a common problem since some devices count 0-127 whereas others count 1-128.
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As I can’t get to making a video until I can meet up with @GisserD I have offered to talk through the editor via video call. Either via WhatsApp and/or team share.
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Yes you have missed it. 🙂 I included a tutorial on setting up a basic patch from scratch in the manual (“building your first sound”) as I thought it’d be useful. See the contents menu and click the link. (The manual is embedded in the editor via the “help” tab). There isn’t really a shortcut to learning a complex device like this. If you know a bit about synthesis in general and its nomenclature then learning the FI is much quicker. This is a very useful interactive and fun tool: https://learningsynths.ableton.com
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It’s not as daunting as it first appears. Would be good if some others learn how to do it too - it’s a bit lonely being almost the only person writing patches for it and sharing. 😆
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Here's something I originally did on my Moog Subsequent 37 but have redone on C4: Patch is here: https://neuro.sourceaudio.net/preset/ZzaOJACaMw
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Check out the Chase Bliss Automatone preamp. It’s the Benson preamp with ridiculously cool MIDI controls and motorised faders.
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What are you struggling with? Playing it cleanly? Programming it? Transferring patches onto it?
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I made the selfsame discovery a couple of months ago. I went and checked out their first eight albums and they are fantastic. I bought the first two. Check out early Commodores too - they were amazing early on. -
Not even the best thing I’ve heard by them.
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I posted this on the recordings thread but is relevant here. Subsequent 37 on bass:
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Moog Subsequent 37 for the bass. Scarbee A200 Wurly (Kontakt). Recorded on Ableton Live Lite 10.
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Scarbee’s VSTs are wonderful. I know he does a funk guitarist one.
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Here's a little idea I knocked up last night. Guitar and the germ for the Wurly part from my good friend @GisserD
