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[quote name='CameronJ' timestamp='1509739641' post='3401384'] They aren’t available yet. I’m patiently waiting though! [/quote] I meant, where are pigtronix pedals usually stocked in the uk?

[quote name='CameronJ' timestamp='1509709081' post='3401055'] Wait for the new Pigtronix Mothership 2 to come out [/quote] I knew you’d have a good suggestion. That looks pretty interesting. Where are they stocked in the UK?

[quote name='CameronJ' timestamp='1509722167' post='3401209'] I’ve owned both a Wonderlove Deluxe and a Proton v2 and found the proton much, much easier to dial in a useable sound. It has fewer knobsbswitches and is half the size though, so you’d expect that! Less flexible as far as routing options go but for me, plug & play wins over complexity almost every time. The notable exception to my rule being Source Audio stuff which can get ludicrously deep but I like having those little powerhouses at my disposal sometimes. [/quote] Yes, the Wonderlove is harder to dial in initially than the Proton. I know what you mean about some of the knobs seemingly having little effect. I thought so too until I worked out how they interact with one another. For example, the decay knob has a far more pronounced effect when the cutoff (tone) knob is dialled high and more so if the sensitivity is higher because filter will travel a greater distance when triggered so it’ll be more noticeable whether it covers this distance on the way back in a short or long space of time.

I’ve had the Wonderlove and v3 Proton side by side.

[quote name='paulo m' timestamp='1509688361' post='3400847'] If you can find one' a 3 leaf GR2 envelope filter is superb on bass' believe me.. combined with Octave ( i have both a Cog T16 & an original Boss OC2 ( the Bronze One) Before them a MXR bass compressor then after the GR2 in my chain a EBS microbassII with a overdriven channel....Combining all four of these pedals & i know it sounds a lot...Give's a gargantuan Synth Funk' Sound.. In closing check out the (Bass-Pedals.Com) site for invaluable info & brilliant sound clips.... [/quote] The GR2 has been replaced by the Wonderlove as far as I know. (I have the latter; have never played the former but from the videos and descriptions I’ve seen it appears to be a precursor to the Wonderlove.)

After playing with the Future Impact and loving the possibilities but being a bit disappointed by the feel due to latency and tracking difficulties I am on the lookout for an analogue pedal which can generate various waveforms from my bass’s signal for the purposes of creating synth tones. I’m aware of the Moogerfooger Freqbox (anyone here used it?). What else is out there? Something which could replicate the Minimoog D’s ability to switch octaves and have multiple oscillators would be great. Does such a thing exist?

Are there any pedals out there which have exactly the same controls as the filter in the Minimoog model D? Specifically, cutoff, emphasis (resonance), amount of contour (how much envelope affects the sweep), attack time, decay time, sustain level. (The last one is the one I’ve never come across on other filter pedals as a direct control; it's usually achieved in conjunction with using the envelope to sweep the filter further to lengthen the time between attack and decay.) Relatedly, are there any pedals which replicate the D’s loudness contour controls? I wonder if this could be a mission for Mr. Broughton?

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1509691229' post='3400849'] Re the Octabvre Mini - for me it’s all about the soloed octave sound with this pedal. However it’s very sensitive to what you plug into it. Some basses can sound quite flat and uninteresting, very bass heavy but not much character - but a passive P Bass sounds amazing. [/quote] Same with the Mark II for me. I’ll second the P bass view too. In fact, I’m considering selling my Sterling to maybe fund another P bass (or more pedals).

Pedal bash sounds like a great idea, I’d be up for that. Are you in London now, Cameron? Relatedly, I’m there next weekend (going to see Chris Potter at the Barbican) and maybe some other gigs; if anyone is up for meeting up for some bass frolicks then that’d be cool. I could probably bring a pedal or two.

You should still try some low pass filters for comparison to your band pass BEF.

Weirdly the OC-3 sounds way better if you plug the bass into the guitar input as opposed to the bass input.

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1509655079' post='3400674'] Itch fully now scratched in relation to: Third: Emma Okto Nojs (nice additional dirt, but I guess somewhat superfluous if you already have a dirt pedal, which I do) [/quote] The difference here is that there are two dirty signals, one at pitch and one an octave lower. It gives more options than if you were adding dirt after octaver, either directly or in parallel line. It’s funny how tracking differs for different people/setups.

The Broughctave sounds very interesting, I’d certainly like to try one, though it looks like they may be hard to come by. Do you have a PDF of the manual and any video clips? I’m curious to know about the dip switch settings.

@Al There are a few pedals with a blend: Wonderlove, Qballs Enigma, Moog MF-101; the Qtrons have a “mix” mode which blends BP with clean, though at a fixed ratio (probably 50:50). A way around those that don’t is to use a Boss LS-2 in mix mode.

The filter in this Glou Glou pedal is really cool. It’s not as resonant as some other filters I have or have tried (such as the Fwonkbeta and the Moogerfooger) but all the settings are useable without spikes (and it has a level control). The thing that’s exciting me the most are the highest three (of the eleven) discrete filter sweep speeds which make it sound really fuzzy and synthy. Cameron, I am pretty sure you’ll dig this a lot just for this bit. A dry signal blend, expression pedal input and a loop would be welcome additions though. If they made the filter as a stand-alone unit I’d probably get that. The other side of the pedal is capable of some ridiculous sounds. The LFO can go into audible frequencies so can go all ring mod. When used as a straight vibrato or phaser it produces some lovely sounds. You can also use the envelope to trigger the phaser so get a kind of phase wah which is really sweet. Such a shame it’s €580. I’ve got it for two weeks so will see if I feel the need to sell a bunch of other pedals to get one. I’m looking forward to seeing what else this can do. I’m really digging the sounds on the Future Impact but the fast note triggering issues are making it a less enjoyable experience than it could be. Maybe I should try with another bass and/or try a fret wrap or foam mute to see if that helps with cleaner articulation between notes.

Yep, the MXR octave has the best tracking I’ve tried so far. The basic range of sounds is good too, though some other pedals have more tonal flexibility.

Finally got the Octabvre mark II and it is great. The switch between the two modes is definitely worth having because when it’s in normal mode the fully clockwise end of the tone control is super growly and when in Tim mode, the anti-clockwise end is fatter, especially when playing high up the neck. I’m glad I got this rather than the mini as it’s got a bigger range of sounds in it. It tracks almost as well as the MXR for me and better than the Octamizer.

Got to give a mention to the Future Impact. I got it on rental yesterday; it’s loads of fun and very versatile. Nails some Stevie Wonder tones. It struggles a bit with very fast notes; you need to play very cleanly and with a bit of space between each note to get the next to trigger properly. Sounds fantastic too and the sounds are editable on the pedal (editing via computer makes your own patch creation possible as you have access to all the oscillator settings). For octave tracking it gets down to F cleanly (open E is a bit patchy but open strings are always tricky), the response is good but not as immediate as my analogue octavers.

I’ll be trying the Glou Glou Rendez Vous tonight…

Got to give a mention to the Future Impact. I got it on rental yesterday; it’s loads of fun and very versatile. Nails some Stevie Wonder tones. It struggles a bit with very fast notes; you need to play very cleanly and with a bit of space between each note to get the next to trigger properly. Sounds fantastic too and the sounds are editable on the pedal (editing via computer makes your own patch creation possible as you have access to all the oscillator settings).

[quote name='lee650' timestamp='1509269381' post='3397630'] I've still to find the filter for me! I'm currently using an early coloured/etched 3 Leaf wonderlove,I love it mixed with fuzz and octave, (especially when they are in its loop) but struggling to find a tone I like on its own, it's just not squelchy enough. My favourite was the original big box Qtron I owned! Buts it's massive a PITA to power and sucks tone bypassed! I've had the EBS IQ, digitech BSW, Tone factor bottom Feeder, Bass balls and various multi fx and haven't found "the one" yet. tones I love are "back to love" Brand new heavies, "fell n love with a boy" Joss Stone ( guy used a Moog Murf I believe) and anything by Bootsy:) got my eye on the Emma Discombobulator at the mo! [/quote] Yup, the loop on the Wonderlove is great, but I’m with you about it not being squelchy enough on its own. The Q-Tron+ I just picked up has the squelch and the loop (and is true bypass, unlike the older big box version). Sadly there’s no blend knob like on the Wonderlove but this might be up your street, Lee. (Also, try the Q balls enigma.)

[quote name='MGBrown' timestamp='1509182812' post='3397154'] I had a similar issue with my T65: A sort of fluffy distortion even when on 'clean' only. It wasn't overly loud but it drove me mad. In addition the octave up seemed to be a distorted version of the main signal - not an octave up at all. Sent it back but it apparently tested fine. Using an EBS now - works great with the Le Bass pre. [/quote] About the octave up being a distorted version of the main signal - that is intentional and is explicitly stated in the Cog advertising copy: “The octave up is a bit dirty and helps add some presence back in to your sound when in a live band mix. It is by no means a clean reproduction of your sound an octave higher, and it isn't designed to be used as a standalone octave up on bass, but instead as an integrated part in this octave machine.”

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1509203053' post='3397313'] Check these out Al: https://www.banananaeffects.com/products/matryoshka http://www.dedalofx.com.ar/byte1 [/quote] I need to stop reading this thread. That banana thing is cool!

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