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Went to my work's Christmas do last night (I'm the boss) and look what they bought me in the secret santa!!!! Anyone got any fishing gear for sale?

[quote name='jamesf' post='353584' date='Dec 13 2008, 02:27 PM']If the control room is still 4m x 4m, you'll encounter blah, blah, wibble, blah over two of the room dimensions, causing an unpredictable wibble, blah effect. If two sheets (preferably more, staggered layers of varying thickness over the layers) of drywall are being used, I'd suggest using more scooby doo dah such as your corner traps over one of the control room walls, or at least 40% coverage. If you are using nearfield monitoring, this will be less of a problem if the listening position is set up properly, but if flip flops are being soffitted, the extra dooberie on one wall will help to combat this effect. Building walls out of parallel won't be required in a room 4mx4m if you have adequate snaffle flubbers - it simply acts to prevent wibble wobble, which is a rapid reflection of high frequencies - because of the size of the room boundary (4m), higher frequencies of hubba bubba will have completed several hooblespanks before they hit the boundary and so will have lost sufficient energy to prevent the effect - the aforementioned 50% loogery quibbleknacks will also destroy these. The out-of-parallel walls will not affect distribution or generation of darthvaderradars (your new nemesis!), as these are dependent on average distance travelled, especially in the case of noggin gnome modes The vaulted ceiling is an excellent feature - don't flatten it whatever you do! The live room looks very nice, but personally I would have the console under the window so I could see and communicate with musicians in there when recording acoustic instruments and miking amps etc, alongside when recording electronic drums - this is of course assuming that mixing will take place in DAW; the mackie 24-8 is relatively tiny, so it will fit with ease - of course this depends on your mixing methods - ITB or OTB? plus the listening position, and subsequently your monitor placement. 2x3m live room is more than enough for vocals - get dimmer switches for the lights in there. As far as cable routing goes - are the power outlets wired yet? if not, it's standard practice to run a separate ring main around the top of the room for power, and have drops to the outlets - this way, the audio cabling is kept well away from the power cabling and interference. I'm so incredibly jealous of your project, words have not yet been invented! It's going to be a while before I can even begin to think about thinking about planning mine!!! There used to be an excellent tutorial on basic acoustics on Ethan Winer's site, but it got taken down a while ago - I'll see if it's anywhere else on t'net. And yes, you'd struggle to get a convolution reverb unit for under £8000!!! J[/quote] Thanks J, I have altered your post a little so it makes complete sense for me! (No offence intended) Actually, it goes to show how much I have to learn!!

[quote name='NancyJohnson' post='353436' date='Dec 13 2008, 11:11 AM']I'm late to this thread, so maybe late on the advice. In 2001 I helped build a home studio at the rear of my then drummers house. I was only going to throw in my two cents insofar as the in the wall insulation goes. He went/we went with the hard stuff - you've probably seen it - the big slabs of compressed fibreglass board. You can get this stuff from Wickes. He/we used that stuff on every internal and external wall - it offered great heat and sound insulation and stopped any leeching when we were recording. We used to rehearse there as well...full gear...and used to go through until midnight and none of the guys neighbours ever made a complaint about the noise. It's no use having a place like this if you're limited to when you can use it. He also ran all the cabling in conduit about three inches off the floor. Easy access for upgrades and away from any possible flooding. Looking good! P[/quote] Thanks for this. I am toying with the idea of using the material you described (commonly known as 705) as an outer skin before we cover the external marine ply in shiplap, just for a little extra re-inforcement. All cabling will be surface mounted in conduit as you described, just in case we need to get to it at a later date.

Line 6 pod xt pro for the guitars. DI from my Markbass TA503 head for the bass.

[quote name='budget bassist' post='352960' date='Dec 12 2008, 06:02 PM']Wow, steep! Though not so bad if it does what you want it to And don't forget to alarm/insure it all!![/quote] Not really expensive, considering some pro studios will pay in excess of £10k just for a reverb unit!! It's all belled up and will be added on to the insurance!

Yeah, if we wanted to, we could. Like I've mentioned most stuff will be done via modelling amps and headphones... the only use of volume will be the mixing stage. Our band tend to record in stages like this so we're pretty used to it now. Surprising really that the sound we produce via the digital media is very acoustic!

[quote name='budget bassist' post='353029' date='Dec 12 2008, 07:29 PM']If i were you, i'd have made the drum/vocal booth the mixing room and the bigger room just a live room. That way if you need to record several instruments in one take, you can listen to them through the monitors to make sure they're coming through ok and hear the take properly without getting any feedback or anything.[/quote] I hear what you're saying but we will be recording almost everything through modelling amps bar the vocals. All guitars and bass will be laid down via the mixing room with drums (roland) & vocals from the booth. The main hub will be the live room and we need the room for the sofa and fridge. Nothing will be recorded with any volume as such and it will mostly be digital bar the vocal. It just made sense to me this way round.

[quote name='alexclaber' post='353036' date='Dec 12 2008, 07:34 PM']Don't they just have the 3+1? Alex[/quote] That's what I mean't....

Erm.... had a look at the headstock in question. Although the 'hole' could be copyrighted, I'm sure Ernie Ball hold trading and manufacturing rights over the 4+1 machine head configuration. AND they are very much on the ball with the old CAD's.

A quickly knocked up floor plan showing rough dimensions of rooms in relation to each other and placement of bass traps and reflectors/absorbers after consultation.

For those interested, just a quick total with regard to cost. All recording equipment £2,500.00 Roland TD20 £3,000.00 All wood materials and ironmongery £400.00 Insulation materials £300.00 Oak flooring £470.00 Electricals £500.00 Dry walls £300.00 Door, window & glazing £90.00 Traps, absorbers & Reflectors £200.00 T&G surround £50.00 Curtains £20.00 Heaters £150.00 Beer fridge (essential!!) £90.00 Shiplap external £300.00 Sealants and silicones £40.00 Tea & Coffee £10.00 Caramel hobnobs £5.00 Sofa & chairs £FREE!! Total spend.........[b]£8,425.00[/b]

[quote name='crez5150' post='352902' date='Dec 12 2008, 05:00 PM']also use 12mm as opposed to 9mm if you can.... makes so much difference.[/quote] Done!

OK, some more pictures as promised.. This will be the drum/vocal room. Roland TD20 will live in here... This picture shows the framework for one of the bass traps to eliminate corners... View from the far gable end where the mixing will be done, looking back to the drum/vocal booth. He have yet to install the internal double paned window... This picture shows the insulation in the roof... This is the new window installed in the mixing/live room... This picture looks down the corridor to the entrance... Forgot to add... I have decided to double up on the thickness of the dry wall. Might cost a few more bob but I'm sure it'll be worth it. Next update when the dry walls are up!!

No pictures to add at the moment as I didn't want to bore you all with snaps of fibreglass!! Have been doing lots of research on bass traps and absorbers/reflectors. Decided to make my own rather than spend close on £1,000 which is what I was quoted!! The bass traps will go floor to ceiling and quadrant the corners. Timber frames stuffed with rockwool and with an acoustically breathable foam front (speaker grille foam!!)... six of these in all for the live/mixing room and the drum/vocal booth. The deflectors will be canvas pictures with ply backs mounted offset to the walls and ceilings. The absorbers will be like the bass traps but more shallow and positioned accordingly after the room has been attenuated. Solid oak flooring is waiting to go down, electrician is in on Monday... then we can crack on with plaster boarding the dry walls! I'll try to get some pictures this weekend.

[quote name='Jean-Luc Pickguard' post='352144' date='Dec 11 2008, 09:01 PM']CDsourcing charged us £500 for 500 copies - pressed CDs with one colour silk screen print on a white base with jewel cases & full colour front & back with b/w print inside the foldout 'booklet'. Excellent quality and very fast problem-free turnaround.[/quote] Torch will do 1000 cd's for £704.37 (inc vat & delivery). 4 page colour booklet and CD too!

+1 for Torch Music. We've just had a small run (200) done for promotional purposes and the quality is superb. Printed CD's, CD inlay, 4 page colour booklet and jewel case for £336.37 (inc VAT) delivered. One week turnaround too! Speak to Sean on 01344 870291.

I had one a few years ago. Lovely punchy tone which (IMO) is far superior to the Epi's. They look so cool when hung low, ala Nikki Sixx & Pete Waye!! A little neck dive but it is a T-bird. My advice would be to watch out here and on e-bay for a second hand one first if you're in no hurry.

[quote name='kdphysio' post='350211' date='Dec 9 2008, 09:43 PM']Sweet! I wonder if they'd do a Welsh flag version (or how much it'd cost!).[/quote] They would easily and PM Darren for the cost.

[quote name='yorick' post='350184' date='Dec 9 2008, 09:05 PM']I own two Californias, a JJ and a JM. You'll never want another bass!!!! Happy plucking......... [/quote] Yup... already got a PM4 which I love but really wanted this custom. Keeping my 'Ray though because it's my baby, but these Sandbergs..... Jesus!!!! There's something about them.....

Not much to add today apart from some internal insulation, external walls and purchasing the recessed lighting, internal doors and external window. Things will really start to take shape over the next few days so I'll get my camera out again. Electrical power should be connected over the weekend. Priced the floating floor.. bamboo (£600.00!! ) and the internal 'double thickness' window will also be fitted tomorrow. Formica workstation, Stella fridge and two-piece royal blue leathur suite ready and waiting. Hopefully will all be completed before crimbo!

There are only two in this particular custom EVER made. One is in Sweden for a private collector and this baby is mine!!! I was on the phone to Darren and asked him how it looked... he said like it had been on two major world tours!! LOL!!! Lots more pics to follow and a full report when I get my hands on it. Just a quick plug.. if you ever want a Sandberg, Darren at The Bass Merchant is the man to see. QUALITY service and communication. Just look for the member 'bassmerchant' on here and send him a pm. He will always try and cut you a deal. Lovely fella. He has a forum 'room' on this site in the sponsored section. Seriously well worth a look. BTW Darren, If anyone from BC in Colchester who wants a fiddle on this before I pick it up, please tell them to be my guest... just wipe the bugger down afterwards!!

It's with Darren @ the Bass Merchant in Colchester. Should pick it up by the end of the week. Can't bloody wait!!!

[quote name='Shockwave' post='349799' date='Dec 9 2008, 03:29 PM']It's none of my business anymore, If he wants to retract his comments he can. I do not support any camp for or against anymore. Everything can be dealt with PM's. If you want to talk about it with IncX then PM him. Reule said the wrong thing in the heat of the moment (And its not like anyone can say they have never done that) I sympathise and agree that peoples money should be spent on what it was intended for which is shipping the bass. All I did was help to get the bass to the rightful owner and due to silly mistakes on reueles/Jakes and BC' members parts are essentially ruining the feeling i and many others have gotten from helping someone.[/quote] No-one is knocking the tremendous effort you and several others done here Shockwave. Personally, I think you all deserve the highest accolade. At the end of the day, Reuel got his bass, the money donated should go towards shipping with any excess going to a local charity of his choice, NOT to pay customs or other bills. Jake has to look in a mirror everyday from now on knowing that he is a thief.

[quote name='Shockwave' post='349791' date='Dec 9 2008, 03:19 PM']He got pretty angry about the way the situation about the excess money was brought up to him (I.E through me) And would rather have individual people contact him about it. He has said to me he was hasty in his posts and was in the heat of the moment. He is unlikely to retract them. However i do retract my statement about not posting in sections other then the classified, I just got some decent advice via PM's.[/quote] But he publically stated that he was using the excess to pay off either credit card bills and/or customs charges... both of which are not the contributors responsibility. He should have expected a little upset at those statements, regardless of where/who it comes from. I think he should retract those posts and pretty damn sharpish.

Personally, I didn't contribute to this situation financially for my own personal reasons. And after reading the latest in this sorry saga I'm glad I didn't. Reuel, money donated was to ship your bass.... customs is your responsibility. The fact that you asked for the bass to be falsely valued in order to save a few bucks on customs and now posted a gripe at the cost when this wasn't done, absolutely stinks IMO. And why the attitude to most who stuck their hands in their pockets to get this bass to you? Lets look at the facts... Your first post was a cry for help - which was responded to. Members on here (and I'm not talking about the Warwick forum) went out of their way to find out who the thief was - you was very pleased. Members on here started a collection to get the bass to you - you were humbled and thankful. Price for shipping = £250.00 Amount raised = £350.00 You stated that you were keeping the extra £100.00 to pay off credit card bills - several members suggested donating to local charity. You post about 'extortionate' customs charges and indicate that you will use the extra £100.00 to part pay this charge. - several members are understandably upset about this and communicate this to mods etc to air their grievance. You post how upset you are about the situation, DESPITE ALL THE POSITIVES MANY MEMBERS HAVE DONE FOR YOU and proceed to make rude unjust statements which are totally uncalled for. It's no wonder many here now feel used and abused.