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I'm not what the point would be of micing a cab that's designed not to colour your tone, why not just DI

Reading the manual the control design for this does look pretty genius cramming a helluva lot of control into a six knob pedal. At the same time personally I'd probably rather just plug my phone into my C4 and have a visual of the settings. I can see that it would appeal to lots of people who find that idea off-putting and want something you can program without another device.

If you got on well with the Boss upgrade to the Gt100core it really is ridiculously good, can be for a steal secondhand. You can set it up as if it's just individual pedals you turn on and off with the three foot switches, or program it to do a whole set list with patches. The hardware is newer than the stomp which will likely see a replacement model come out in a few years time. It's not better than the stomp it's just different and easily as good. The only reason I would say not to get it is if you're after recreations of lots of different amps or pedals. If that's your thing go neural or line 6. If you like Boss effects however (they were THE standard effects pedal for decades for a reason) go boss.

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Close but not quiet spot on. Speaker simulation (how boss refers to it's own ir's) or IR's are tied to A.I.R.D. amp blocks (how boss refers to amp simulation) so when both amp blocks are switched off there is no speaker simulation. Output selection is irrelevant in this configuration regardless of how it's set speaker simulation is also disabled. Alternatively if you have output set to recording in the speaker simulation block you can then also select the speaker type as off and then you will have no amp simulation regardless of whether the amp block is on or not.

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Except as was already pointed out in the thread room the idea of an overall 'in-room sound' is a bit of a misnomer . Unless you are able to listen in multiple locations in the room or very very experienced with how your bass sound reproduces in different rooms and have a high amount of control of many variables there's very little guarantee being in the first camp produces a better result than the second.

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@sikpete I'm intrigued as to why you're particularly want a multi-effect over looking at individual pedals? If you're wanting to be able to match as close to possible a range of recorded/player/band tones this may be the best bet but be prepared for likely a significant amount of investment in time programming the units to get the most desired sounds. I do think one area where many modelers/multi's are weakest and have had the least development in is bass specific overdrive, distortion and fuzz algorithms. I think it tends to be a little over looked by most companies again not that they sound bad but often the OD, distortion and fuzz replications have had more tunning for guitars and often the guitar and bass amplifiers are where most development is spent on the digital side. You then have the dilemma of looking at how to make sure you have the sound you want on stage and through front of house (while not impossible it is another later of complexity). You've clocked this already with the dilemma of do you run the quad into the input of your genzler or the FX return. If you are using the amp modelling/simulation functionality these pedals then ideally you should run into a fx return or dedicated flat amp (like the GS sumo or bass amp where the pre is designed to be flat and uncoloured with a very basic eq) or a appropriate power amp (crown tend to become of the favoured). Then there's choices of CAB, do you keep your barefaced which will add additional colour to the tone coming out of the QC or other or go for something more transparent like the big baby or big twin. It can be done but it is a significant commitment and a possibility that you might not be as happy with your base tone as your current setup provides. If your current head/cab is something that you feel happy with and enjoy and you only need some occasional colours/flavours for getting in the ball park of a bands sound for the odd song I think I'd suggest sticking with individual pedals. While you might be able to get very good) incredible sounds out of a QC based rig you might never quiet the in the room sound you are used too currently (if that is currently perfect in your ears) If you don't fancy tap dancing and money/budget is not an issue you can invest in a switcher either as simple as a Harley Benton or Mooer or at the more expensive and extensive systems from Boss or gig rig along which would replicate the programmability/technical complexity of many multi's that enable complex sound changes with a single switch. The benefit of these is it allows you to swap in and out individual pedals to your tone hunting delight. There are so many stomp boxes out there that the tones in your head will be achievable with patentience and investment. Personally I use a Boss GT-1000 core and my reasoning was I wanted to be able to get as close to the multi channel/band processing I use when recording when playing live. It's not perfect but it gets pretty close although requires allot of time getting there. My band did a covers set for NYE and it got me close enough to a range of sounds without too much effort. That was after a few years of using it to get tuned into it's controls and interface and how it works. The Gt1k interface is very different to most other modelers/multi's as it has no touch screen or colour display but actually I think once you learn it its probably the easiest and quickest to use on the fly. It's also got the least accurate amp models, not that it sounds bad at all but it's Amps are not even attempting to be able to sound exactly like 100's etc other exact amps from history and more like highly usable great sounding approximations of a few classic amp types or tones. So if you were wanting to sound exactly like such and such a record or amp it might not be there one whereas QC will certainly get very very close to many of those with the right time and gear and ear. Even then no multi effect is as easy to tweak in the moment and provide as much certainty of what sound will come out when you pluck that string as a few stomp boxes into your favourite amp. And if your amp setup is making you 100% happy you might be better off looking for couple of individual stomp boxes that will get you 'close enough' to ya 'clubfoot' or other individual song tones. Just my thoughts from what you had shared and my own experience. I'm sure whatever decisions you make you'll have plenty of fun, do keep us updated on your progress.