Dad3353

What do you mean by 'don't load'. Can't open with a Browser, or can't be downloaded from the link..? Do you have a graphics editor, such as Irfanview or similar..?

The Daub'z went down a storm (again..!) last night supporting Parpaing Papier for the 'anniversary' of our local pub. Shared backline (theirs...). As luck would have it, their drummer plays 'leftie' too, so just a snare and cymbals to swap. It's very odd playing someone else's kit. Very, very cramped, and the place (it's small...) packed to the hilt and more, despite the wet, blustery weather outside. Inside, though, an ambience inciting us to play our best, which we did (well, no-one pulled us up on the few blunders, so...). A great night (again..!); we have to go back today to recover our PA we'd supplied. The Parpaings kept the crowd pogoing, too, so all had a splendid evening. No pics; maybe some will emerge later..?

Tough; t'is what t'is. Hence my 'explanation'.

Just for (general...) information, my use of the smilie '' implies, usually, cynicism, or sometimes condescension, depending on context. My use of '' is usually 'tongue in cheek', or poker face, again, depending on context. I also use the 'Gold Cup' in the 'Like' list to indicate my approval, as in 'Well done, champ'., rather than its standard 'Thanks' label; for that I'd prefer ''. I'm not sure that there is a 'smirk' smilie, and can't think of any occasion I'd need one.

Maybe a Good Reason for lightening up with your condemnation of those playing music for other than artistic reasons, then..? There is (much...) more to Life than art.

There are clues in the 'smilies' that I choose to add, as expression of my sentiments.

And I would argue that, for the most part 'art', in any of its forms, is mostly baloney and balderdash. I would add 'hooey' for good measure.

@Baloney Balderdash Hmm; you seem to find my comment amusing, or 'funny'. Hmm. I find it sad, along with your reaction. We are not of the same Planet, methinks.

Bring it on; I've a new (to me...) hifi amp to get used to.

Yes, that's called The Army. There's a lot of it about.

Music is one thing, The Music Business is quite another ... Disclaimer : I play music for free, and play what I like to play. By pure coincidence, some people like what I play enough to listen to it, and even applaud on occasion. My compositions (mostly available in the monthly BC Composition Challenge...) are freely available for the World to hear. Art..? Nah, not me, chum. I'm not a fan of Art, in any form, really. Doing stuff for its own sake is enough for me; no need for fancy labels.

Ah, thank you; that makes a little more sense. I was not intending to imply that personal versions are a Bad Thing; there are many proofs of that, so no debate there. There is also, however, value in playing a 'cover' of any music in the original style (a 'cover' of the Johnny Cash version, for instance could be consider 'original' by many..?). I spent a career drumming in variety bands, here in France. Not once was there any question of 'composing' or creating anything 'original' to these bands. I transcribed the drum parts (pre-internet; very few drum scores existed for popular music...), so as to be able to play 'Hotel California', with it's signature beat, fills and breaks, just as did the other musicians. Chicago's 'If You Leave Me Now' has to be respected, if all the band are playing as close as they could to the version on the radio. Other numbers, more in the 'musette' style, gave plenty of opportunity for self expression, in the same way as stuff from the Real Book allows wide interpretation, but when I played 'my' version of 'Satisfaction', I was quickly brought up short by the band leader. 'Play it like the record', he said. OK, why not. At our next rehearsal, I played it like the record. Have you really listened to what Mr Watts, in his wisdom, played on that track..? Give it a whirl, just for fun. It's like the Duracell rabbit, going 'One, One, One, One' with all members playing on that beat. It is truly dreadful. I played it, once, at the rehearsal; the band leader asked me to play my version after that. OK, it worked on the disk, for The Stones, in its day, but our singer was not Mr Jagger, nor the guitars 'Keef'. Yes, there's a place for making things one's own, but also a place for learning how the original musician composed his work, and playing that. I prefer, for the most part, to see and hear a Schubert symphony as composed by Schubert.

Sorry, too cryptic for me.

In the same way that some people go to discothèques, to dance to pre-recorded music, or a DJ's mix or 'mash-up', and some folk like the 'live' aspect of singing, or watching others sing, karaoke, there are many that want to see and hear a 'live' band play music that they know and like, often with dancing and other social interactions involved. There are some that will enjoy a musician's version or interpretation; most won't have that as their main source of enjoyment, and having something close to what they have in their head already is what's required. The whole point of 'covers' is to give the audience the impression that they're seeing and hearing the original version, or close enough for them to recognise it and enjoy it. Bringing something 'original' to the party can work, of course, but it's not the 'main event'. Being close '1:1' is next to impossible for most pub/club bands, but add one's own 'flavour' is a secondary part of the affair, for most bands and for most pub/club audiences.

Dunno, mate; I play drums.

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I'm glad that you agree.

I can't see that there's much to compare to. We all play different stuff, for different reasons, on different occasions. Victor Wooten also plays root-five when it's called for, so many players here are, in those circumstances, just as good as him (other virtuoso musicians are available...).

Better that than reggae, though.

If trickery is allowed, and to get the cynics 'on side', have some of the participants learning instead to canon 'Three Blind Mice', as discretely as possible. Once both songs are ready, have them sung together, to the same tempo. Three Blind Mice is longer, so their juxtaposition will become quite interesting as this ensemble progresses. Hard core..? Maybe...

Three hours, you say..? Team building..? It's a canon that you need, and what better than 'Frère Jacques', a song they will all know, but don't know that they know it. Get them all to do the melody line together, then split them into two groups, then three, then four, to build up the whole canon. If there's time, or one or two 'better' voices, pop a harmony line in there, too. Everyone will enjoy it, guaranteed.

Indeed we would; would that it would come about. Meanwhile...

Steamy enough..?

Anyone else notice the wallet floating around on the drummer's snare drum, to 'tighten up' its sound..? He has to push it away from time to time. It's an old trick, seldom seen these days. Good Stuff.

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