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[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1503334586' post='3357353'] Erm? [url="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Ireland"]https://en.m.wikiped...very_in_Ireland[/url] You might want to read the part about "The Irish slave trade began to decline after William the Conqueror consolidated control of the English and Welsh coasts around 1080, and was dealt a severe blow when the Kingdom of England, one of its biggest markets, banned slavery in its territory in 1102." [/quote] ... but also that the George Cross flag was not much in use as a national symbol before 1350 or thereabouts.

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1503333126' post='3357343']... I live in a [b]quite [/b]English village now but the UKIP candidate lives a few doors up... [/quote] All is explained.

[quote name='Les' timestamp='1503330913' post='3357325']... I'll probably start another thread to garner opinion on the "Brucie's dead higher or lower didn't he do well" sketch that the drummer and I are plotting for Sunday's beer fest. [/quote]

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1503328553' post='3357295']...Don't see anyone who learned about it in school. We certainly didn't cover the American civil war. Most of what we learned was uk insutrial revolution and the war years. [/quote] Just lucky, I suppose, but the syllabus covered at my schools was much wider ranging than that (between '58 and '66, Southville Junior and Hampton Grammar...). My siblings had similar schooling, as I remember.

I'd say that in the context of 'rock', there's more a 'rebel' association; in the context of Americana, it's a great deal more blunt, veering towards red-neck thinking. As a 'rebel' flag, I see no problem; as a 'Southern States' statement I'd have more qualms.

The world of maths is a fascinating one; despite that, millions of people all around the planet use a calculator (or their 'phone...) for doing basic operations. One needs more than that to become a university professor, but not everyone aspires to that. I would add that, in much modern music, there is a serious lack of information carried by 'standard' notation concerning synth effects, or varying degrees of fuzz, distortion, delay and such. Without having heard the piece, it would be difficult (maybe not impossible, but difficult...) to convey all the information required to play a piece of that nature. Not to say that dots have no place, but don't pretend that classical music notation is the complete solution for everything.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1503323250' post='3357209'] Why was it bought to the police's attention? Who complained? And Why? The article is very scant on details of the neighbours relationship leading up to the event. [/quote] Does it matter..? I'd have thought that enough has been written about Robertson's jam and Enid Blyton to have anyone realise the status of those dolls, but maybe I'm wrong, or too old.

[quote name='ricksterphil' timestamp='1503309944' post='3357009'] [font=arial, sans-serif-light, sans-serif][size=5]Eats, Shoots & Leaves[/size][/font] [/quote] No; you're thinking of pandas.

[quote name='Thunderbird' timestamp='1503309771' post='3357006'] Lukillly mine punkutain and spellin iz spot on innit [/quote]

[quote name='Thunderbird' timestamp='1503309204' post='3356997'] As above really there used to be some really funny people on the forum and you could always crack a joke but now some people seem so grumpy and just seem to want a row sign of the times? OK rant over lol [/quote] Usually its because theres a cruel lack of adequate punctuation which makes reading their posts very difficult in fact some of the posts are so bad they just get skipped it does however create a tension which for some people seems to be resolved in grumpy replies not enough in jest for me I much prefer a light hearted approach not everyone has the same outlook though spelling mistakes and badly placed or worse still missing apostrophes has been know to send some folks barmy as has commas out of place never mind its all for fun you know as a line from a Marty Balin song goes

http://youtu.be/LWbj7FYEi3M

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1503260516' post='3356817'] Yes, we all know. You made it quite clear in post #2. See you same time tomorrow. [/quote] I was just clarifying, following the gist of the topic, that it was not the fact that it was a [i]bass [/i]being played, that's all. Sorry to have disturbed, though.

I'm not really fussed that it be a bass, a guitar or an accordion; it didn't do anything for me, end of. I might have been slightly impressed if he got those notes out of a carved carrot, but even then...

'More than simple' plug'n'play, here. Bass into amp; that's it. The amp (usually Hiwatt DR205 PA head...) is set to 'all knobs at 12 o'clock' (yes, I know that's not 'flat', but it doesn't matter...); the cab an HH 2 x 15 folded horn. Two p/ups on the bass (Hofner Verithin, with black nylon-coated strings...); I use one or t'other, as I think fit, and use the tone controls a bit. The rest is just the fingers, playing towards the neck or bridge, finger flesh or index nail, occasionally thumb... Simple..? Definitely.

[quote name='Steve Woodcock' timestamp='1503230253' post='3356552']...being told to move your Pawn from b4 to b5 in chess doesn't teach you anything about how to play the game, nor does painting by numbers teach you how to paint.... [/quote] Many folks get great pleasure from following through the chess games of past masters, in exactly this fashion. Similarly, there are thousands, maybe more, enjoying the results of their endeavours in colouring by numbers a view of New York or a pair of spaniels. None will claim to have mastered these arts, but is that the only worthwhile objective on the planet..? I spent much of my youth studying the new (at the time...) 'black art' of DTL/TTL logic, and from there on to microprocessors, operating systems and computers. I had (at the time...) a pretty extensive mastery in depth of how it all worked, more than those who would 'plug and play' the latest graphic cards in fashion. Whilst doing this, for my career, I did no more than brush over the finer points of reading musical notation, except for drums, as that was my instrument of choice. I can read, albeit very slowly, for guitar, bass or keys, but cannot play a saxophone, even if I can decipher the score. My path in life has not revolved around Mozart, nor the Masters of Puppets, and my professional drumming career involved 'dots' only as far as I wrote them out myself, as they did not exist (I've never seen since the drum score for 'Hotel California', either...). Why this insistence that there is no salvation but in soaking oneself in this skill..? No-one is disputing its usefulness, nor that it is good to learn from an early age, but there are other skills that are equally valuable for thousands of happy, contented folks in the world, without, too. Is it too much to accept that some folks get the result they're after from other concepts..? This insistence is not likely to endear the subject to those already hesitant or wary from previous experience of failure with the system. It does not fit everyone's temperament nor needs. Hats off to those who revel in it, but some respect is due to those who play music without, I feel. Rant over.

Jack Casady, with Jefferson Airplane (obviously...), but also in Hot Tuna with Jorma Kaukonen or more, held his own in the 'bass to the fore' genre, playing blues and much, much more. An example..? OK, but there's so much, it's tough to pick just one, but there's a neat tempo shift in this one... [media]http://youtu.be/mjfhsLuOEWI[/media]

Happy (second...) Birthday; wishing you many happy returns of the day.

Good evening, DJ, and ... [sharedmedia=core:attachments:167528] Plenty to read and amuse you here, and lots to learn and share.

[quote name='Baronialhall' timestamp='1503168117' post='3356226'] http://youtu.be/6giiYDlqRQs [/quote] Yes..! Just one of soooooo many gems from the brilliant pair: Jorma Kaukonen and Jack Casady, in whatever formation they're playing in. Hot stuff, and more where that came from..!

I gave it a minute and a half.

I'll spare you the horror story behind '[i]Catherine et son ensemble[/i]' (recounted elsewhere here...); I agree that it is all too often the case that the inviting band turns out to be not as 'inviting' as all that..! That's part of the deal, though; when it's good, it is very, very good, but when it is bad it is rotten..!

[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1503156906' post='3356118'] It would indeed. To each their own, but there are tried and trusted ways for us to learn... [/quote] Nice, but your analogy implies that we're learning to read music (as a language...) from a very early age, in which case I'd agree with you. However, I was taught French at grammar school, from age 11 till 15, and clearly remeber failing dismally, thinking to myself that I'll never use this stuff, so what's it for..? My O-level results reflected this: 2% for the oral, 4% for the written. Note: that's percentages, not a mark out of 10 or 20. Fast forward to my mid-twenties... For diverse reasons, I moved to France. I spent 6 months unable to understand, and 6 months more able to understand, but unable to reply. Over time, the lingo has filtered in, by necessity, and I would class myself now as modestly fluent, without formal training (and so 'warts 'n all'...). All this to illustrate that, depending upon one's motivations; needs and imperatives, there are many paths to Rome. Learning (anything...) is a complex affair, and does not work in the same way for everyone, at every age. I'd finish with another, equally flawed, analogy. Learning to fly model aircraft is a skill set. Flying a light aircraft, solo, is an extension of that. Becoming a commercial pilot takes it further, test pilot further still. To become an astronaut one has to build still more on the rest. Those playing music on the 'model aircraft' level would glean little advantage in following the career path of an astronaut. To each his orher own.

Good evening, Ben, and ... [sharedmedia=core:attachments:167528] Plenty to read and amuse you here, and lots to learn and share.

Good evening, Steve, and ... [sharedmedia=core:attachments:167528] Plenty to read and amuse you here, and lots to learn and share.