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[quote name='DaveFry' timestamp='1503145418' post='3356029'] Who was this playing bass back in '76 please ?... [/quote] [url="http://www.philupchurch.com/1970.htm"]Phil Upchurch ...[/url]

I'd say it's an error to connect reading standard music notation and learning (understanding...) music theory. It's very possible to do either without necessarily doing the other. Playing from tab and having music knowledge is perfectly feasible, too. Reading from a score is obviously better than not being able to (as is reading ancient Greek or Somalian; other foreign languages are available...), but does not preclude musical ability, technique or talent. Sight reading (that's to say, being able to play at the tempo of the piece from first read-through...) is yet another aspect, and a useful skill to have, but not indispensable for many musicians.

I'd rather have a band mate let me know if they think whatever I'm playing seems not to be appropriate, or could be improved, whether on drums, bass or whatever. Similarly, I wouldn't hesitate in discussing issues with their contribution; the method or tactfulness would depend on our relationship, and would vary between politely suggesting an alternative to chucking my drumsticks in the air and swearing volubly. Whatever works best in the circumstances; it's just a matter of communicating in an effective manner.

[quote name='Rich' timestamp='1503096850' post='3355770'] Oi. We'll have less of this jollity nonsense, thank you [i]very[/i] much. [/quote]

[quote name='markdavid' timestamp='1503096945' post='3355772'] Well i think it was somewhere along the lines of"can you not play that fancy slide bit as they don't play that in the original song" i forget the exact words used [/quote] Ah, that's more like it..! Phew..! For a moment there...

[quote name='markdavid' timestamp='1503094591' post='3355750']... the drummer told me... [/quote] What..? 'The drummer asked me...', 'the drummer suggested...', 'the drummer proposed...' I could understand, but 'the drummer told me...'..?

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1503079832' post='3355612'] My (slight) issue with tab is that although it does basically the same thing as standard notation it only does it for one specific instrument at a time, and only for stringed instruments. It feels a little isolated, almost like guitar and bass players consider themselves guitar and bass players, not musicians. [/quote] The same could be said of drum parts, which are instrument-specific. It's just the nature of the beast, really.

Before what is now 'standard' notation, tab (short for tablature...) was the means of communicating for all serious musicians and composers, including for song. It has its limitations; it also has its strengths. Nothing wrong with using tab and/or 'dots'; everyone chooses what they find best suited to their purpose at any one time. I use both, and other systems too. As an aside, how, with 'dots' is one supposed to convey tone, such as fuzz, or 'grit'..? Dots have their limitations too, in some circumstances.

[quote name='Rich' timestamp='1503060723' post='3355406'] I think I'll go out on a limb (Though I fear it will make me look dim) And say spending all hours On this forum of ours Is really a big waste of TIM. [/quote] This is soooooo close to the bone I maybe should stop posting here Though my sentiments are quite sincere And I feel that I'm not so alone Enough..! I hear you moan 'Tis too much to take For goodness sake Control your testerone The seeds that have been sown Will grow and grow Manifesto Of words together thrown Before it gets full-blown I'll call a halt Afore assault And from this forum thrown

[quote name='Nicko' timestamp='1503058416' post='3355373'] Good stuff, but clearly you have too much time on your hands. [/quote] Yes. Old, you see, and getting older I'll stop before my meal gets colder

When I first arrived in France, mid '70s, I was mainly playing drums in variety bands, but did get the occasional offer of bass-playing, usually with rather modest wedding bands, centred around a Voice with an Accordion.. The repertoire was, for me at the time, completely unknown, so, to me, count as 'originals', as I'd never heard them before, nor had any idea as to how they were constructed. On drums, it's not difficult (or so I found...); once I got into the trick of playing a soft shuffle on the hats, and the occasional light splash or accent, I fitted in quite nicely. Bass, however, was a continual concentration of listening, and listening hard, for what was going on. No guitar, often enough, to follow or watch, and an accordion, even if played well (not always the case...) is more difficult to 'read' from across the stage, so it was usually just a case of finding a suitable root and fifth, choosing a suitable rhythm or lilt and winging it, from 9 till 2 in the morning, sometimes longer. It was never a complete train wreck (well, not from my modest playing; sometimes the others would frig it up a bit...), and in every case the dancers were satisfied, called out for more, and congratulated the whole band afterwards. The most modern numbers would be a twist or two, maybe a light rock, Elvis-style, but mostly foxtrots, paso dobles, tangos and the like. No 'Rhythm Stick or the like, of course..! Depping..? Great stuff, but there is much variation in those waters; they can run very deep, or just enough to get one's toes wet. A fascinating school, in any case..

PJ Proby, early '60s..? PJ Harvey came much later, late '80s. Hope this helps.

[quote name='Cato' timestamp='1503013425' post='3355125'] Does anyone know the rest of that limerick? I've only ever heard the first line. [/quote] Actually, it's quite neat... There once was a man from Nantucket Who kept all his cash in a bucket. But his daughter, named Nan, Ran away with a man And as for the bucket, Nantucket

[quote name='bazztard' timestamp='1502983048' post='3354863']...the number of things wrong with that particlular one, like the tuners and all the dings and the nut... [/quote] All easy and inexpensive fixes, to be fair, no..?

Do you gig with your pre CBS? No, you don't, I would hazard a guess You'll leave it behind Even though you're inclined In your playing, to slowly regress Noob question! 3rd's 5th's 7th's 10th's? Just ignore them, but play to your strengths You'll be at your ease Without this Chinese Unless you go to great lengths Does anything sell on Basschat? Pretty much, at the drop of a hat It flies from the shelves Excepting the Elves That TE still have to work at To J Bass or not to J bass! This is neither the time nor the place Get the playing just right And, with luck, you might Find your present guitar is just ace Simple but perfectly formed To this subject my heart has been warmed It's not merely a whim I'll go out on a limb In suggesting that I've been brainstormed

I'll not be tempted with this frre trial stuff; Christmas is too far away.

[quote name='seashell' timestamp='1502969493' post='3354716']...how are they ending the ones that fade out on recordings?... [/quote] You've not been listening to the lyrics, or what..? "A-well, you know, my love, a-not fade away..." (excuse the familiarity... )

I find it both amusing and instructive to see the differing attitudes of folks to the notion of change. Some with a hyper-conservative attitude ('It wouldn't be the same...'), others welcoming the fresh approach brought by a relative stranger to the affair. No judgement here; both are legitimate, and perfectly respectable, but interesting just the same to imagine the differing personalities behind these reactions, highlighting the vast diversity of BC, and, to an extent, the population in general. A gold mine for the psychologists among us..! Just sayin'.

[quote name='ped' timestamp='1502960954' post='3354629'] I only use picture hosting sites for the 'throwaway' images used on forums etc... [/quote] Exactly. The hosting site has to fit one's personal needs; the 'features' must be those wanted; no more and no less. Imgbb is fine for 'one-off' picture posting, less friendly for archiving or 'cloud' storage. I'm more of a 'squirrel', so like to find things months or years later and re-use 'em, though, hence the use of albums.

[quote name='scrumpymike' timestamp='1502960204' post='3354620'] Happy Jack's a Basschatter-cum-poet (as we all may be but just don't know it) Any more want to try - make us laugh, make us cry? You can stick with the bass if you blow it. (I'll get me coat.) [/quote] That, sir, just goes to show That making rhyme's the way to go

The only downside I've found with Imgur is their chaotic, unreliable album arrangement; the pics just do what they want, it seems. The only downside I've found with Flickr is their verbose BBCode, which contains links back to their site which I don't want, so I strip 'em off by hand. Imgbb doesn't propose albums, so I don't use it, but at least it's simple to use, which is a Good Thing.

[quote name='bazztard' timestamp='1502941606' post='3354516'] very clever we jammed with acoustics and a cajon last night, no buggery at all [/quote] [quote name='SICbass' timestamp='1502944513' post='3354520'] Oh come onnnnnn, not even a little? [/quote] [quote name='scrumpymike' timestamp='1502959715' post='3354610'] Not possible while you're playing the cajon (I know, I've tried ). [/quote] As Rupert Bear would say with glee It should be said with poetry

[quote name='scrumpymike' timestamp='1502920121' post='3354453'] Your cajon/champion rhyme is much appreciated. [/quote] Hmm... When composing a post for this topic T'would be best to become philanthropic One could take greater pains Just by using one's brains Unless they are too microscopic

Good evening, Kev, and ... [sharedmedia=core:attachments:167528] Plenty to read and amuse you here, and lots to learn and share.

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1502910624' post='3354366'] Just misread composting... [/quote] That's the Gardening thread.