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[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1497961584' post='3321624'] hmmm, I'm a drummer and I used to like to mic up the kick drum... [/quote] It's all a bit 'genre-dependant', of course. In my vein of predilection, it's the hi-hat that is most important to me; the bass drum is used mostly simply as punctuation, not the 'big beat'. Old-school swing style. Of course, things change a little when 'Daddy Cool' is in the repertoire, or 'Highway To Hell'..!

[quote name='Tony p' timestamp='1497953370' post='3321520'] Has anyone else here just played the set twice when they've used up all their material.... ? [/quote] Yes, depending on context. If the audience has changed since start of gig, no great problem; not really recommended if they're the same folks, I'd suggest.

[quote name='Monkey Steve' timestamp='1497953878' post='3321527']......however, I was thinking about bass drum volume the other day (triggered by the Download thread mentioning bass drums being too loud in the mix) and specifically my experience of drummers who will insist on having their bass drums mic'd up. I wonder if it's the drummers version of the "amp pointing at the knee" thing, that it's the one drum they can't hear because it's not pointing at them so they assume that nobody can hear it. I've never understood why the ones that insist on it do so when everybody else is constantly telling them that everybody in the studio/pub can hear the bass drum just fine... [/quote] This ^^ makes no sense to me. assuming you're meaning 'at live gigs', and not rehearsal (there's really no need to mic up a kit for rehearsals..!), then surely it's a call for the sound engi to make as to whether to have the drums miced, and how, and maybe (just maybe..?) feed some back to the drummer's foldback if he/she needs it..? I can't imagine how or why a drummer would want to dictate what the FOH gets; even less the monitors for the others..! Maybe I'm unusual, but when I've been playing my drums, in any formation over a long career, it's never once occurred to me to amplify what I can already hear very well indeed (and I'm now rather deaf, due to ageing..!). Very rarely, usually on open-air 'festival' type stages, I've wanted a touch of BD in my foldback, but even then only a tad. Is this common amongst drummers, then..? What have I been missing all these decades..?

[quote name='mikel' timestamp='1497949731' post='3321479'] We tend to set the PA vocal volumes at a very comfortable level and the instruments have to sit under that level so the vocals can be heard easily... [/quote] This ^^, drums included. You know it makes sense.

Jazz tone knobs are smaller than volume knobs.

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1497946176' post='3321444'] if I found them in 1/4" shaft format they would work... [/quote] [url="https://www.ebay.com/p/Allparts-Black-Knob-Set-for-USA-Jazz-Bass/1401321059?iid=222549816188"]Jazz bass knobs, Ebay ...[/url] There are others...

[quote name='WILD FROG SHOT' timestamp='1497944228' post='3321420'] I managed to turn my already very warm music room into a sauna recording the guitar for this... [/quote] Echoes of 'Genesis play Pink Floyd' in there. Good Stuff; will do well.

Ah, proud, eh..? Can't help you there, then. I [i]was [/i]going to suggest tone knobs from a Jazz bass.

A 1/4" slice of wide heat-shrink tubing, your choice of colour, shrunk onto the existing knobs would give 'em a distinctive look, maybe..?

[quote name='CTO' timestamp='1497911985' post='3321340']...[color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]let me know what you think...[/font][/color] [/quote] Good evening, Theo... For what it's worth, I think it's very good; no, rather very good indeed. A nice mix in general; slightly heavy on the bass drum, but not by much. Yes, the bass is discreet, but in context that's no bad thing; its role is amply fulfilled. One slight irritation: the 'Shadows' guitar at around the half-way mark. It comes across as weak compared to the rich tapestry woven up to then. Its 'in your face' timbre would prevent me from playing the track again. It could (in my view...) be either replaced with something a bit more subtle, or dispensed with entirely; there's quite enough going on, anyway. What 'genre'..? Shoe-gaze..? Modern ethnic/world music..? Advanced retro update..? Dunno; I'm not strong on categories. Good Stuff, then, with that slight reservation mentioned. Well done; your work is eminently listenable (take that as the compliment that was intended...). Thanks for sharing.

[quote name='Skinnyman' timestamp='1497909534' post='3321319'] More of a privet joke really [/quote] (Face palm...)

[quote name='Skinnyman' timestamp='1497906036' post='3321277'] No. That's the Hedge [/quote] Boxing clever, eh..?

Stuff from the catalogue of U2..?

[quote name='gjones' timestamp='1497855824' post='3320823']... She only needs the sheet music when she plays piano... [/quote] That's because she has learned 'songs', and not 'music'. It's like reciting a poem and writing poetry; quite different activities. Both respectable, but different.

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1497820600' post='3320741'] We got asked to play at the Great Scottish Tatty Run today... [/quote]

[quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1497819023' post='3320730'] Was very interested to give AAMS a try... [/quote] PM sent...

Wow..! It gets betterer and betterer..! As an aside, and notwithstanding the superb innate qualities of the performance that merits viewing in its own right, this could be shown, maybe, to any of those 'drummers' that suggest that they can't (it's really 'won't'..! ) play quietly..! Magical, could go on for hours longer. Uplifting, pure joy in ingot form. Smiles (perhaps tears..?) guaranteed, or, if not, consult.

[quote name='Leonard Smalls' timestamp='1497805466' post='3320640'] I like 'em!... [/quote] ... et pour cause..! Splendid stuff; thanks for posting..! Now, back to the flow...

It's a bit like the difference between an 'off the peg' bass and a custom-built master craftsman one. If it is in budget, there's a fair chance that the custom bass is 'better', but for very much less, and with maybe a bit of compromise in the research for the absolute, a 'standard' bass is just fine, and maybe better than one would have constructed oneself on the kitchen table with little or no carpentry experience. For my part, and for what it's worth, I use... [url="http://www.curioza.com"]AAMS ...[/url] ...for 'automatic' mastering, which brings a certain homogeneity to my efforts. Is there better out there..? Quite likely, but this one is free, and does a fine enough job for my cloth ears. Would a Mastering Engineer approve..? Maybe not, but my needs are too modest, anyway, to merit such treatment. Does it make all of my production sound the same..? Not at all; it just polishes my t**ds a spot, bringing them that tiny bit more closer to the 'target' sound I wanted (orchestral film, pop, acoustic folk etc...). Magic bullet..? Of course not, and I don't use or need it every time, but it does a very good job for the price I paid (donations to the authors are accepted for the V2 that I use; the current V3 is free to download, and limited to 4 minutes, so one is encouraged to register for 65€ ...). Just sayin'; hope this helps.

I wonder what the ratio of rehearsal to gigs looks like for the Stones..? Hmm...

If you import the MIDI track into a separate, spare, track in the DAW, then test to see where the bass drum lies, it's pretty easy to transpose the whole lot down or up an octave, as required. Then copy/paste the result into the 'real' track your using. I use a very varied selection of MIDI stuff, as well as several virtual drum Vst's, so that's how I match 'em up. It is also true that GM is exactly what it says, ie: 'general'. There are as many exceptions as adherents to the norm. Superior Drummer, for instance, has almost a drum map for each kit, often with no real equivalents in other kits. It's part and parcel of the 'fun' of virtual instruments. After a while, one tends to go with the set-up that gives the best results for most things, and only get into wild experimentation when there is time to [s]waste[/s] spare. One can spend hours trying out various combinations of MIDI source and Vst kit, only to go back to the 'tried and tested' in the end. Just sayin'.