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No, I don't play loud, now, but for outside, street-corner gigs I never had volume issues with my Fender Bassman Export (50w valves, into that same Fender 2x15 cab...). Here's an old photo... OK, for a really loud band, 100w (or that superb 135 Fender/Musicman amp...) would be more than adequate. Just for fun, here's a photo of the Hiwatt stack our 200w head used to drive, as a PA, one stack each side of the stage (so four cabs...). 200w; we never ever lacked volume (and, for me more importantly: headroom...). Clean to the sky, and darned loud... Yes, this lot filled the van, and weighed it down, too..!

This is our all-valve head, on its flight case. It takes two strong-uns to lift it. Are you prepared for that..? (The handle on the head itself is, frankly, symbolic...). It may be noted that the i/p and Main volumes are at about half or thereabouts, and that this is an open-air (biker...) concert stage; driving a 2x15 Fender Bassman cab. The bass can be heard, and felt.

I must concur with this ^^. We use a Hiwatt all-valve PA head (4 x KT88 o/p bottles...), giving a nominal 200w if aloud to. This can be useful for cracking apart ex-WWII concrete bunkers. There's no way that anyone sane can open up 200w in any environment but a stadium, fact. Hire one for a test run, then decide what you need. Don't go bassing thoughts on just numbers.

That's one heck of a repertoire. At ten 'sounds' per song, fifty songs in the set list... Hmm... Any chance of an extended memory for the 'other' band..?

Good morning, @PoorQuentin, and ... Plenty to read and amuse you here, and lots to learn and share.

But it seems to hurt a lot, just the same. ...

And the winner is... @Doctor J ..! Here, then, is your Winner's Certificate (download and save as pdf file, then proudly print and frame...) ... BC_Chal_Cert_2021_08.pdf ... which looks like this (but bigger, of course..!)...

Any chance of a recording of this..? It might well offer clues as to what's really happening. I suspect the amp of cutting out as overload protection, trying to supply more than it's capable of. A recording would help confirm that. It doesn't sound, from your description, as being simply an intermittence (but it could be, just the same...). If it really is the protection circuit cutting in, you're (all...) playing ferociously loud; a sample would help clear that up, too. It could be a cab problem, though. Are you absolutely sure of the impedances of the cabs..? If one is really 4 Ohms, that could explain things. No 'phone recording available then..?

Good evening, @lamp, and ... Plenty to read and amuse you here, and lots to learn and share.

Just different times, I reckon. There's a very long list of child brides in the Wikipedia... List of Child Brides ... ... from past and recent times. One may note, for an extreme example ... Isabella of Valois (aged 6) was married to Richard II of England (aged 29) in October 1396, a little over a week before her seventh birthday. The marriage was never consummated. After Richard's death, Isabella married her cousin Charles, Duke of Orléans (aged 11), in June 1406, when she was 16. ... or, more up-to-date ... Nujood Ali (age 10), an arranged marriage by her father to a 30-year-old man in 2008. Coverage of her self-presented application for divorce later that year led to the legal age of marriage in Yemen to be raised to 18. I'm not condoning, just remarking. Times change, but slowly.

Indeed. There are folk, apparently, that don't 'Feel' with their ears. They can't be helped, and early deafness/tinnitus awaits them. Oh, well...

In that case he most definitely does not need the amp to be cranked..!

'The Sound' (any sound...) is easy enough to get from a decent pre-amp, instead of from 'cooking' the output bottles, and is then available at any volume, including DI or recording with no amp at all. Our Eldest gets 'The Sound' from a Mesa Tri-axis and a G-Force, which drive a Mesa Simul_Class 2:90 valve amp. It's true that the 2 x 90 valve watts can take paint from the neighbours wall (and they're nearly a kilometre away...), but he gets the same juicy valve sound at any level at all. He still plays too loud, of course, but that's not the point. One doesn't need to drive the bottles to get The Sound, and any guitarist that says that's the only way is out of touch by half a century or so and/or delusional. Yes, the Tri-Axis is expensive (or was, at the time...), and the G-Force has been superseded, but their modern equivalents are more than capable of producing The Sound, at any chosen volume, so there's no real excuse.

Good evening, @charlie_groove, and ... Plenty to read and amuse you here, and lots to learn and share.

No, no; not at all. I have pretty decent MIDI hardware for my own instruments (Sonuus i2m, or how to play oboe on a bass etc...); the idea was to test stripping an audio file into MIDI. I only used one of my own poor samples by commodity; in 'real life' I'd be wanting to 'decompose' a stretch of Sonny Rollins, Joe Pass or the like. If I wanted to change my own major chord to minor, I'd just play it again, Sam..! The deconstruction of third-party samples would be interesting, but ten seconds doesn't go very far. Thanks for the tip, though; it's the Thought that counts. ... (I was tempted to add 'Bless...', but thought that it might come across as Condescension rather than Humour, so I didn't. ...) ...

Well, it certainly works, but it'll make heavy weather of composing whilst it retains its limitations. Ten seconds is no time at all, and it takes a lot longer than that to process those seconds, so cutting a longer sample into ten-second slices is going to take a while. The result is good; too good, in fact. It depends a lot on the quality of the audio for rendering a clean result; my poor guitar strumming brought out a fit of ghost sounds, absolutely true to the original, but with all the noises, squeaks and rumbles (yes, so much in ten seconds. I play badly, OK..? Wanna make something of it..?) all translated into MIDI notes. True, yes, but difficult to manipulate, as they're very much interdependent. Reaper didn't allow 'drag'n'drop of the audio, so I had to firstly render the ten seconds, before importing the rendered audio into the Vst. To be followed; maybe I should try again with cleaner samples, rather than my own playing (OK, I play badly; I know. I know, alright..?). I don't know what Melodyne would make of the same samples, and I haven't the cash to find out; it'll be good to see how far this can evolve. What it did do was very good; it'll be of limited practical use for the moment. To be followed, then, whilst saving up, if this is a real need. Thanks for the tip; it's interesting.

The whole album, but this is the track that just finishing. Good Stuff...

Why..? Just 'Why'..? Why can't folk just let it be..? T'was never a splendid song in the first place, Spector or not. I don't hear much difference anyway, certainly nothing that now makes it worth playing. Beatles fan..? Up to a point, yes, I am, but not for this stuff. Weak before, it's weak now.

Not quite the same situation, but close enough. We don't play excessively loud, and our floor monitors are rather good, but it's true that the singer (he's very good, too...) needs to hear himself to be at his best. Our two guitars are the problem when rehearsing, as their cabs are facing each other, with the singer right in the middle, between 'em. No, it's not ideal, and there are other arrangements that could be made, but there's a certain amount of stubbornness in the mix, it seems. One solution that I suggested : IEM's. As a trial, I got a wired pair of earbuds, to see how it would work without too much initial expense. No good, as the singer couldn't get on with them (he's not very 'techy'...); he couldn't get them to stay in place around his ear, and the experiment failed. The issues are still there, but one needs some cooperation and 'buy-in' for any solution to have a chance. Luckily, we'd not invested in a quality IEM set; it would have been wasted. I'm OK; I can hear just fine, the instruments and the vox, but, although the singer would be better off with IEM, it's not going to happen, I fear.

Looks like he's caught his fingers in the strings, though. Is the Gibson version just as painful to play..?

Keith Moon..?

Ahem...

Good afternoon, Skilamalink, and ... Plenty to read and amuse you here, and lots to learn and share.